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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:28 AM
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A WEEK Since Mark Penn Met With Colombia about the Trade deal. Another $711,200 paid by Clinton.
Yes, it's been a week since Mark Penn met with Colombia on how to promote the Bush/Colombia trade deal. And yet he's still on Clinton's payroll, earning $101,600 per day. If he really doesn't represent her interests, why hasn't she really fired him? Why should PA voters vote for Clinton when she really is about everything that has led to their poor economy? I remember when Pittsburgh was a bustling steel-town. After the Clintons friendship with China and Hillary's term on the Walmart board, all that steel is now made in China. If only the people in PA could see this.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:29 AM
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1. It's a lie to say Penn earns that much money
What's your proof that that's his salary?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:30 AM
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2. FEC.gov baby. Look it up. For March, he earned over 3 million dollars.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:31 AM
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3. No
his PR/polling firm was paid that much.

You're saying it's Penn's personal salary from Clinton. As usual, it's a lie.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:32 AM
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4. In case you haven't figured it out, Consultants earn money for their firms.
If Penn wasn't there, how much do you think his firm would make.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:39 AM
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6. Don't distract from the issue
You're pretending the amount of money you quote is Penn's salary from the campaign. That is a lie.

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:43 AM
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8. I said Clinton paid that much money and that he earns it from her.
You're the only one who mentioned Salary.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:45 AM
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9. Here's your quote
"And yet he's still on Clinton's payroll, earning $101,600 per day."


If you're going to lie so blatantly, try not to do it all in one thread.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:46 AM
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11. He is on her payroll earning 101,600 per day for his firm. What's not true about that?
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:25 AM
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14. Why bother arguing with Ignored?

These sorts ignore the facts and will defend Clinton no matter what.
Even the Bosnia sniper story was defended!!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:31 AM
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15. When someone calls me a liar, it becomes personal. I am challenge-challenged.
:D
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:59 AM
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17. the beauty is that their numbers have been so decimated here..
that you only have to deal with one per thread, whereas a month ago their would have been 5-6 of them rationalizing this shit.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:00 PM
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18. Except that that one person per thread will dominate it by spamming it 50-100 times
With nothing but "Hillary is better! NYA NYA!"
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:40 PM
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27. Nah, they just make up for it by swarming whenever there's
a positive Obama thread or negative Hillary thread. The effect is that you THINK there are a ton of them when really it's just 2 or 3 saying the same shit over and over.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:50 AM
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31. Why is it swarming
to point out a blatant lie?

You know Penn's salary from the campaign isn't 3 million per month. I know you know that. I know the OP knows that - yet you guys keep repeating the lie.

Why is that? Have you no shame at all?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:03 PM
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19. Because that's not "payroll"
and it's not his salary.

You know it, and you keep lying about it.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:05 PM
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22. Then....
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 12:06 PM by Hepburn
...if it is NOT payroll and NOT salary....are you saying that POS works for free?

:eyes:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:43 AM
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28. Not at all
I'm saying his salary isn't 3 million per month. You know it's not that. The OP knows it's not that.

So why do you all keep lying?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:11 AM
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33. So then.....
...how much money does he bleed HilLIARy for each month?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:56 AM
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34. I don't know what his salary is
i know how much how firm got paid, though, for their services. And you know as well as I do that that's not Penn's salary.

I honestly would like to know why you all feel the need to lie about this?
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:35 AM
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5. Justify Bill, Ickes, Wolfson and Penn's lobbying of Colombia and HRC's claim
that she is against the trade deal!

Please. We are not that ignorant!

Perhaps you may want to take some time away from the propaganda to seriously consider who you are supporting. Its one lie after another with Hillary
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:41 AM
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7. Why do I have to justify that?
It's got nothing to do with the issue here. Penn isn't drawing a $3 million/month salary from the campaign. That's a lie.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:45 AM
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10. If hes still drawing ANY money from the Clinton campaign its too much!
So you don't think that Colombia will have an IN with the "clinton administration" if Hillary wins? You are ok with our government continuing to be influenced by outside powers instead of the people of this country?

Apparently you are.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:57 AM
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16. Bingo!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:46 AM
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12. I never said salary. He's a consultant. You're an idiot.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:03 PM
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21. You said payroll
you're lying about it.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:07 PM
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23. So WTF is he paid...
....since you think you know it all? And...provide a link, OK?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:43 AM
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29. I have no idea if he draws a salary
or what it would be if he does.

But I know it's not the 3 million per month the OP continually lies about.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:49 AM
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30. well, he's getting SOMEthing, so you better pony up, cause he ain't cheap,
whatever he's getting.

it costs money to make trade deals with death-squad murderers.

why is deadbeat Hillary not paying the small towns of the USA that she's ripped off in her campaign instead of human garbage like Mark Penn?

HMMM?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:09 AM
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13. The Clock is Ticking Hillary. PA is waiting for you to fire Penn and reaffirm your stance on Trade.
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 10:09 AM by berni_mccoy
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:03 PM
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20. OMG.....that man is such a PIG.....
...and sorry about the insult to pigs!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:16 PM
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25. When you said that, it reminded me of the story "Animal Farm".
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:09 AM
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32. Great book!
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:12 PM
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24. $101,000/day -- How to make money on a lost cause
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:37 PM
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26. One wonders what kind of spending decisions she would make and who will be paying Penn
If she becomes President.
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