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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:00 PM
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Yahoo: Clinton misstates wife's Bosnia tale
WASHINGTON - Former President Clinton has added to the falsehoods surrounding his wife's tale of her trip to Bosnia 12 years ago.

Bill Clinton has many of the facts wrong.

His wife didn't make the sniper fire claim "one time late at night when she was exhausted." She actually told the story several times, including during prepared remarks on foreign policy delivered the morning of March 17.

It's also not true that she "immediately apologized for it." Clinton has never apologized for the comments and only acknowledged that she "misspoke" a week after the March 17 speech when video of her peaceful tarmac reception emerged.

It's also not true that she was the "first first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt to go into a combat zone" — a claim that Hillary Clinton has also made when talking about the trip. Pat Nixon traveled to Saigon during the Vietnam war and Barbara Bush went to Saudi Arabia two months before the launching of Desert Storm.


"Hillary called me and said 'You don't remember this. You weren't there, let me handle it.' I said, 'Yes ma'am,'" Bill Clinton, who was in Indiana campaigning for his wife Friday, told reporters.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080411/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_bosnia_fact_check
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:13 PM
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1. Sounds like...
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 01:13 PM by snooper2
Bill and Hillary have a real close relationship...

"Hillary called me and said 'You don't remember this. You weren't there, let me handle it.' I said, 'Yes ma'am,'" Bill Clinton, who was in Indiana campaigning for his wife Friday, told reporters.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Do they not talk anymore? he doesn't watch the news?

:rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:17 PM
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Their "relationship" is melded together
with synergistic lies.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:22 PM
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10. This isn't the first time they haven't been exactly "synchronized".
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:14 PM
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2. Excellent! The media is picking up on the story. Thank you Bill!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:18 PM
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9. My very first thought!
Freakin' bil, man..thinks his shit don't stink or something.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:14 PM
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3. Uh oh
Yahoo will soon not count.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:16 PM
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6. Yahoo is dead to me.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:15 PM
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4. If that's what she does when exhausted. I hope she doesn't get the 3 AM call.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:16 PM
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5. Why can't they just admit a mistake and move on? WHY!?!
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:17 PM
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7. I know another guy who doesn't admit mistakes...
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:17 PM
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8. Because a divorce at this stage will distract her campaign.
Plus, frankly, he's still quite the catch.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:38 PM
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11. This part just is beyond the pale ...

"Did y'all see all that? Oh, they blew it up," the former president continued. "Let me just tell you. The president of Bosnia and Gen. Wesley Clark — who was there making peace where we'd lost three peacekeepers who had to ride on a dangerous mountain road because it was too dangerous to go the regular, safe way — both defended her because they pointed out that when her plane landed in Bosnia, she had to go up to the bulletproof part of the plane, in the front. Everybody else had to put their flak jackets underneath the seat in case they got shot at. And everywhere they went they were covered by Apache helicopters. So they just abbreviated the arrival ceremony.


Here is Bill telling the world that his wife went to the bulletproof part of the plane in front and left their only child to be protected by a flak jacket under her seat when she got shot at.

WOW!! How many ways can we spell bullshit?


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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:48 PM
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12. You know my husband doesn't know everything I do but he sure would know if I was fired on!
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 01:52 PM by 1776Forever
And Hillary says she doesn't know anything about some of the very crucial things Bill has done in the past:

Reported in Time Magazine way back in 2001 and it is still going on strong:

Pardon Me, Boys
Sunday, Feb. 25, 2001 By MICHAEL DUFFY AND KAREN TUMULTY

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,100549,00.html

Bill and Hillary Clinton have always maintained a hygienic distance between their scandals, like His and Hers towels. He had Monica; she had cattle futures. He rented out the Lincoln Bedroom; she emptied out the Travel Office. Whitewater had separate plot lines: his lost memory, her lost billing records. And for a month, it looked as if the 177 clemencies Clinton granted in his final days were falling neatly into the His column. But last week it became clear that U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White was investigating some that have signs of being community property--the commuted sentences of four members of a Hasidic sect following a meeting, which Hillary attended, between sect leaders and her husband.

There is not much you can do to an ex-President. The realists know it's too late to impeach him and too hard to indict him, since bribery is a difficult charge to prove. But with the news of a broader investigation, the focus of the scandal expands to include not just the Clinton who is worried about his legacy but also the one who is worried about her future. So many of the people who were pardoned had connections to New York that it was only a matter of time before the spotlight expanded from the former President to the sitting Senator.

Not that it wasn't breathtaking to watch a shiny new ex-presidency disappear under a freak mud slide. The debris hurtled by so fast that the New York Times editorial page seemed to run out of synonyms for disgust, revulsion and abuse. Jimmy Carter, the perfect ex-President, broke the cardinal rule of the brotherhood and called Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich "disgraceful." Even Terry McAuliffe, the former President's friend, said that decision had been wrong. Perhaps worst of all, there seemed to be no end to the bodies that might float down the swollen river. Congressional investigators subpoenaed another Clinton fund raiser, Beth Dozoretz, to tell all she knows about his pardon of Rich, the billionaire fugitive living in Switzerland.

And shattering any doubt that Clinton's pardons were shaped like boomerangs was the news, broken by the newspaper of record in the Clinton era, the National Enquirer, that Hillary's brother Hugh Rodham had made $400,000 for helping broker a commutation for a Los Angeles drug dealer and a pardon for a Florida swindler. That changed everything. "The brother showed up on the scene and put her right in the middle of it," says an aide to the House Democratic leadership. Suddenly, talk of a Clinton restoration to the White House seemed more far-fetched than ever. "The 2004 thing was never real," the aide says. "Certainly not now."

The criminal investigation could eventually spread to include any or all the pardons granted in the final daze of Clinton's second term. It seems that anyone who ever knew, talked to or met Bill Clinton in his first 54 years made some kind of last-minute pardon appeal to the President for a friend, relative or spouse. A lot of those pleaders were well heeled or working for folks who were. And so the matter of who got paid for doing all these good deeds--and whether that payment was in dollars or votes, now or later--could keep a prosecutor busy for months if not years.

That's where the question of Senator Clinton and the Skver sect comes in. Hillary Clinton has insisted she played no role in commuting the sentences of the four Hasidim, who stole more than $30 million in government grants, subsidies and loans, and that she did nothing unethical by attending two sessions with the leaders who sought their pardons. The first took place in the Rockland County village of New Square last August, while she was running for the Senate. State party operatives thought the tiny community--which had often voted in a bloc in the past--was a promising one for Hillary in her race against Republican Rick Lazio. Following Hasidic custom, Hillary covered her head and chatted about the village's health-care services from across a coffee table, on which a tall bouquet of flowers served as the traditional screen that Hasidim require between the sexes. As far as anyone knows, that was a campaign event only; no pardons were mentioned.

The next session came four months later, after the sect had delivered nearly 1,400 votes for Hillary and only 12 for Lazio. On the morning of Dec. 22, Grand Rabbi David Twersky and an associate went to the White House and tearfully appealed to the President to pardon Benjamin Berger, David Goldstein, Jacob Elbaum and Kalman Stern. Hillary attended the meeting in the White House Map Room but insists she did not participate in the conversation. "I did not play any role whatsoever," she told the Associated Press. "I had no opinion about it."

Clinton eventually commuted the sentences, but Hillary insists she never discussed the matter with her husband. A chat between President and Senator about pardoning a home-state constituent is no big deal. But federal investigators want to find out if the reduced sentences were traded for support at the ballot box.

...............

These are FACTS! But we know now that they got out of this too - TEFLON? Makes one wonder.

:nopity:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:36 PM
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13. K&R
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