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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:42 PM
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Is is possible that Bill does not want Hillary to win the nomination?
I'm having trouble coming up with another explanation for his recent behavior: more race-baiting, weird comments on their marriage and bringing up the Tuzla story AGAIN. Could this be a not-so-subtle effort to undermine her candidacy?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:44 PM
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1. That occurred to me today. I couldn't believe he brought Bosnia
back up after it had (sadly) sunk out of the headlines. I suppose if your wife is the president it would put a crimp in your half million dollar speaking engagements . . . among other things. Very suspicious.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:45 PM
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2. It is certainly possible that he is the main reason she is behind in this race.
Everytime he gets himself back in the news, a lot of people ask themselves - "Do I really want to be seeing the Clintons and hearing about them every day for the next 5 to 9 years?"
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:46 PM
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3. it could be a tragic flaw, as in greek tragedy
he might be incapable of preventing himself from turning gold into shit.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:06 PM
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10. It could be you are right.
I had the sense early on with her campaign that she needed to make clear one way or another that she was the new boss, and Bill Clinton was only a tool in her belt for solving problems. Sadly, it never came to pass.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:38 PM
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13. Well, the Greek Chorus is in place ... so there's merit in that metaphor.
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 03:40 PM by TahitiNut
:shrug:

Something probably happens to a fella that gets hundreds of thousands of dollars to shoot his mouth off.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:48 PM
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4. I heard he's going to use his SD vote for Obama at the convention
Shhh........dont tell anyone!

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:49 PM
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5. He may be thinking 2012 is a better chance for her
Let Obama run against McLame. If Bomb Bomb wins, he'll be too old to run effectively for
a second term and Obama will be damaged goods in 2012, so she can run again. If Obama
wins, she's got to hope that he fumbles things so she can "rescue" the party in 2012.

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:50 PM
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6. it's hard to be a poon-hound when the spotlight is always on...
4-8 years of just hillary is probably more than he cares to endure.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:52 PM
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15. Boo.
You suck. Your personal life isn't up for debate and neither is his.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:31 PM
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18. his personal life would be up for debate if he were first-man...
hillary promised no more...shenanigans.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:00 PM
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20. Except we both know Bill Clinton isn't gonna be the First Husband
Well, not unless President Obama appoints his wife Secretary of Health & Human Services right before there's a tragic-yet-gargantuan limo pile up on the way to the 2010 State of the Union Address.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:20 AM
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23. if hillary ends up anywhere in the line of succession...
she's as good as in- it'll just be a matter of time...a very short time.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:51 PM
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24. Well, that was a charming bit of retarded paranoia
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:53 PM
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7. How many times today are we going to discuss this? nt
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:56 PM
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8. Rezko! Rezko! Wright! Wright! Muslim! Muslim!
there, feel better now?
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Ilithiad Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:58 PM
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9. Are you kidding....
it would be another chance for him to say I did not have sex with that woman but this time it would be in the eastst wing not the oral office...I mean oval office.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:24 PM
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11. There was a certain radio host who said this a few months back.
Yes, Randi Rhodes did say once that the only way she could understand what is going on with him is that he doesn't want her to win so he can divorce her. Well I think the divorce theory is a little extreme, but it does seem like he's not helping much.
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:06 PM
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29. this actually makes a little sense
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:33 PM
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12. My thoughts have been
that Bill Clinton is at least as capable an influence of sabatoge as he is gifted in the enterprise of self destruction.
My amatuer armchair speculation is that he doesn't want to be overshadowed by either of them. He isn't exactly helping Obama as he damages Hillary's chances.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:51 PM
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14. He may simply be past his prime.
Clinton was an excellent president--the best in my lifetime. But he's been at the top of the mountain for 16 years now. I think it may be possible that he lacks some the perspective and spontaneity that made him so perfect for the country in the 1990s.

Think of him as our generation's Harry Truman. No one remembers Hatrack Harry getting clobbered in the 1952 primaries and being forced to drop out of the race, thoroughly rejected by the voters who'd loved him so much just four years ealier. A generation from now, we'll think of the Clintons as valuable leaders--a visionary president and a hard working senator, valuable allies as President Obama began to reinstall the Bill of Rights and repair our nation's reputation overseas.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:55 PM
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16. I think a team of psychiatrists would have a field day with him.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:01 PM
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17. I've been wondering that all day.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:44 PM
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19. I've been wondering that for a good while now. Hasn't just started.
He said "gotta win Texas," he said about Jesse Jackson, bringing in race, several things all along the way that aren't readily coming to mind now, but there have been plenty things to make me suspicious that he's sabotaging her. Bill Clinton KNOWS what he's saying. If he's not sabotaging her, then what the hell is he thinking!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:40 PM
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22. Agreed. It hit me back in January with the SC implosion
and the fact that he spoke first from Independence, MO before she spoke following that day's primary.

I wondered then and I wonder now if he somehow thinks her making the top spot would take away from his legacy as opposed to add to it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:55 PM
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26. He's in his early sixties, right? I've been wondering about
Alzheimer's. And not in a mean way. It runs in one wing of my family and the onset is very slow sometimes. Barely noticeable.

It's just hard to believe that Bill Clinton would say the stuff he's said if he were all right in the head.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:03 PM
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21. k&r
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:52 PM
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25. It's either passive-aggressive bs or he's losing it.
I've wondered the same thing, many time.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:58 PM
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27. I don't know - maybe unconsciously?
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 12:58 PM by AZBlue
But I think he's going to be in big trouble when she doesn't get it. Their plan was first Bill, then Hillary and when it doesn't turn out that way, there's going to be hell to pay. Do not piss off the queen!!
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:04 PM
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28. I was wondering the same thing this morning
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