Unprecedented influence: Almost 10 percent of superdelegates are Jewish (Jewish News Weekly)

[jody]

Unprecedented influence: Almost 10 percent of superdelegates are Jewish

And many of them have declared their support for Hillary Clinton, accounting for more than 15 percent of her current backers.

All told, more than 70 Jewish superdelegates will make the trip to Denver this summer for the Democrats’ nominating convention. They account for about 9 percent of the party’s nearly 800 so-called superdelegates, the informal term for elected and party officials whose status as delegates to the convention does not depend on state primaries and caucuses.

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It would be a history-making experience: Although Jews, who make up about 2 percent of the U.S. populations, have long been considered a formidable voting bloc, they have only more recently become common as Democratic establishment insiders, with unprecedented numbers of both Jewish elected officials and party leaders.

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In the years since World War II, however, the number of Jewish politicians has grown significantly, with 33 Jewish members elected to Congress in 2006, up from 13 in 1950. In addition, over the past 15 years, the Democratic National Committee has been led by three Jewish chairs — Americans for Peace Now head Debra DeLee; Massachusetts-based party activist Steve Grossman and Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, all of whom are now backing Clinton — while the current chairman, former Vermont governor Howard Dean, is married to a Jewish woman and has raised his children as Jews. Of the DNC’s nine national officers, three are currently Jewish.

[cali]

1. um, what's your point?

I don't see the big deal.

[jody]

2. No point unless BO loses and needs to find someone to blame. Just chant "Hope, Change, Blame". nt

[cali]

3. well, that made no sense

kind of awkward way to fit in a gratuitous and lame Obama bash, but hey, what else do you have but bitter and petty?

[jody]

6. Have FAITH and chant “HOPE, CHANGE, BLAME, .. HOPE, CHANGE, BLAME”, you will be invested with

supernatural powers that will allow you to defeat all the demons in your fantasy.

[JoFerret]

40. What's with the firearms thingy?

Are you concerned?

[jody]

49. I'm concerned about all natural, inherent, inalienable rights enumerated and unenumerated in state

constitutions and ultimately in the Bill of Rights.

One of those rights is the right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms for self-defense.

That was the main question in D.C. v. Heller heard by SCOTUS on 18 March 2008 and a decision will probably be released in June.

The Democratic Party supports that right, a basic civil right, although several prominent Dem politicians do not support that part of the party platform.

[JoFerret]

70. Crikey!

Can I buy me a trench mortar and a rocket launcher?

[razors edge]

72. PM me,

I'll see if I can hook you up.

[jody]

73. You might if you meet the requirements of 26 USC chapter 53. n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

9. What an odd post

Just so strange on so many levels. If Obama loses your saying he will blame jews?

[jody]

12. I did not say that. What a strange question, do you believe he would blame others for his failure?nt

[TheWraith]

38. So now you're religion-baiting?

Also, you're engaging in blatant disregard for good taste by suggesting not just that Obama is an anti-semite, but perpetuating the stereotype that Jews operate as one big collective group.

[jody]

74. What a fantasy you've created out of an article published in the Jewish News Weekly. n/t

[goldcanyonaz]

4. Most Jews didn't care for his "no one is suffering more than the Palestinians" remark.

[cali]

5. well, it's true.

and how is it that you feel entitled to speak for most Jews? Seems a bit arrogant.

[goldcanyonaz]

7. I converted to Judaism a few years ago.

[cali]

11. so what?

how on earth does that give you the right to speak for most Jews?

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[Cali_Democrat]

17. Are you taking your medication today?

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[newmajority]

21. Oh really now?

Hey, I do sweat lodge ceremony, but that doesn't make me an expert on what it's like to live in Pine Ridge. You talk like you suddenly became Moses upon your conversion. :eyes:

[cali]

23. no. you can speak for yourself and for those you know- perhaps

but sorry, it's delusional to think you can speak for most Jews.

[goldcanyonaz]

24. And you're a Jew now?

[cali]

29. huh?

that has fuck all to do with my point- YOU don't have the right to speak for others, whether they share your religion or not. Put up or shut up. Show some evidence for your claim about what "most Jews" think.

[goldcanyonaz]

30. Nor do you but you speak for others all the time.

[cali]

36. Actually, I don't do that.

It's something I'm careful not to do, and unlike you, I don't feel the need to bolster my opinion with such pitiful tactics.

[goldcanyonaz]

41. Oh please, you start OP's constantly in regards to you opinion.

[cali]

46. yes,indeed, genius. MY opinion. I speak for myself

not others.

[jody]

51. If you speak for yourself, then why do you pretend to speak for all Jews by criticizing others? The

only way you could know that anyone who you accuse of trying to speak for all Jews is wrong, is by knowing what all Jews believe.

Of course that cannot be because you say "MY opinion. I speak for myself".

My you really are confused. :shrug:

[cali]

55. you really aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

"only way you could know that anyone who you accuse of trying to speak for all Jews is wrong, is by knowing what all Jews believe."

:rofl:

[jody]

57. I see you have exhausted your limited vocabulary and knowledge base for discussing simple topics.

Have a good day and goodbye :hi:

[40ozDonkey]

63. If I put a towel over my eyes, nobody can see me! n/t

[LittleClarkie]

66. No one group is "all" anything. Hence it's generally not a good idea to try to speak for all of them

Regardless.

You don't have to know all of any group to know that they're not all going to think the same things. That's just logical.

Furthermore, one can only ever really speak for themselves. I would flip your sentiment around. You can't speak for an entire group unless you know what that group believes, which would require knowing them.

[jody]

75. I don't believe anyone in this thread claimed to speak for "all" of any group. n/t

[TheWraith]

45. Excuse me?

Because I would think that any Jew, even a convert, would be cognizant of the long history of bias that Jews have faced over the idea that all Jews thought the same, and what a steaming pile of crap that is. To see somebody invoking that same myth is extremely offensive to both Jews and friends of Jews alike.

Come to think of it, let's bring IndianaGreen in here, with her hebrew Obama sticker, and let her beat you about the head a bit with this point.

[goldcanyonaz]

47. Visit Israel and you might just understand.

[Cali_Democrat]

16. LOL

:rofl:

[goldcanyonaz]

28. Something funny about converting to Judaism?

[Bonobo]

27. Converts are the worst, like ex-smokers.

Now. I am a real Jew. Born and bred.
I took no offense at Obama's truthful statement.

If you like Jews so much, listen to us. Hillary sucks.

By the way, real Jews don't live in Arizona.

:sarcasm:

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[grantcart]

62. good for you. I understand it is a very thorough course of study.

[LittleClarkie]

64. And?

I wouldn't completely agree with Obama, but I do think that it would be nice if the Israelis could see a bit of themselves in the Palestinians. They'd be fighting just as hard if they were displaced.

Surely converting to Judaism doesn't mean you agree with everything Israel does.

[razors edge]

10. So they are fine with the suffering,

just not the remark? :shrug:

[Cali_Democrat]

14. How dare he say Palestinians are suffering

They are so well off!

:sarcasm:

[JoFerret]

19. It's not that

It's this divisive pitting of one group against another. It's a nasty trick too many politicians have - Obama included. - and it is dangerous.

[Cali_Democrat]

26. You're right

We should have never crticized Nazi Germany. It was so divisive and pitted one group against another. It was a nasty trick and it was dangerous.

:sarcasm:

[JoFerret]

31. So - pursue your analogy a little further

Who are the nazis in this equation?
Who are all the groups?
Who is doing the criticizing?

It's so easy to jump from one place to another and toss the past about like a football.
Flesh out the parallels please so I can understand what it is you are actually trying to say.

[JoFerret]

68. No answer?

.

[goldcanyonaz]

43. And, so are the Jews that they nail bomb. Lucky them!

:woohoo:

[democrattotheend]

25. I'm Jewish and I had no problem with it

And I lost a lot of respect for some of the Jewish groups that went after him for it. And that was before I was supporting him for president.

[newmajority]

8. The idea that all Jews do (or should) support Hillary is ridiculous.

But I wouldn't be at all surprised if the AIPAC'ers and Likudniks do. However, I believe there are more Feingolds than Feinsteins out there, when it comes right down to it.

[goldcanyonaz]

13. Aww, you need a Farrakhan hug.

[newmajority]

18. And the idea that Obama supporters love Farrakhan is even more ridiculous.

Calypso Louie is irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned.

[jody]

22. A more relevant question, "Do Farrakhan supporters love Obama?". n/t

[cali]

33. why is that relevant?

It's about as relevant as my asking if racists support hillary. Nothing but stupid innuendo. And,boy, do I mean stupid.

[jody]

44. Why do you imply that Farrakhan & his followers are racist? Does your broad brush of accusation

include Rev. Wright and his followers who gave Farrakhan its premier award?

[cali]

48. Farrahkhan

has made some despicable and clearly anti-semitic comments. Stop playing silly little games. Not only are you piss poor at it, you look like foolish.

[jody]

50. Are you saying that Rev. Wright supports Farrakhan's agenda? n/t

[crispini]

35. Wow, you're really contributing a lot to the postiive tone of dialog in this forum.

NOT.

[jody]

39. Have a nice day. n/t

[jackson_dem]

67. Most Jews support Clinton, though

Clinton has a broad coalition of support when it comes to ethnicity and religion.

[Orangepeel]

34. Clinton, Obama Closely Matched Among Jewish Democrats

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105595/Clinton-Obama-Closely-Matched-Among-Jewish-Democrats.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- Jewish Democratic voters show a slight preference for Hillary Clinton (48%) over Barack Obama (43%) for the party's 2008 presidential nomination. The five-point Clinton advantage is within the margin of error for this sample of Jewish Democrats.

Most Jews votes Democratic, so it makes sense that they would have an influence on Democratic politics that is greater than the percentage of the population they make up.

[cali]

42. thanks for actually adding some factual information

[Prefer]

37. HAHA! You're JEALOUS!

[PatGund]

52. So?

Jews don't vote in a monolithic block. There are Jews for Sen. Clinton and Jews for Sen. Obama, (most of the people I know who are Jewish tend to be for Obama, but that's my personal experence.

Just like there are Women for Sen. Obama and African-Americans for Sen. Clinton.

[Indenturedebtor]

60. Oh man

What a thread...

Jew for Obama here. And personally I think that the current projected preference for Hillary among American Jews is primarily due to the fact that she's... HELLO GLADIS the Senator from New York!

Personally, I like many Jews I know are torn about the situation in Israel. There is nastiness on both sides. I am not offended by or frightened of Obama or anyone else sympathizing with the Palestinians. What pisses me off is people on either side of the issue who act like one side is completely blameless... anyways.

Half of my immediate family bucks the national Jewish trend and generally votes Puke. But my Brother says he's leaning for Obama in the general, and my sister has become a democrat over the last few years. I'm working on my father heh. They are not bad people they just get their information from the MSM.

[Hepburn]

53. Excuse me....but do you have a problem with Jews?

[jody]

54. Not me, my maternal ancestors are Ashkenazi Jews of which I am very proud. Thanks for asking. nt

[goldcanyonaz]

56. HOPE and CHANGE!

:woohoo:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

58. I think the Rev Wright, Farrakhan and the Palestine remarks will have an effect on their votes

[cali]

59. You mean that's what you wish

try being honest- it would make a refreshing change.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

61. here's some honesty for you

I think you're a bitter and fustrated soul Cali

you attack every hillary supporter just for the fun of it....does it make you feel like somebody?


sigh ....some people are just happy in their misery

[kwenu]

65. Doctor. Heal thyself.

[MaineDem]

69. I bet 10% are Catholic. What does that matter?

Good grief!

[AllentownJake]

71. Are you fishing for anti-semites

Might want to try another site. People here for the most part are pretty tolerant.