TheWraith
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Fri Apr-11-08 05:09 PM
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So now Clinton is suddenly the champion of the rural vote? |
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Funny how when those voters were in red states they didn't count.
Let me tell you: I live in a small town. And what Obama said is exactly right. The economy out here is in the tank, and people go through their entire lives just barely scratching a living out, with their kids doomed to the same thing. And a lot of people jump at the opportunity to blame someone, whether it's "big government," or the immigrants, or the homosexuals, or whoever for the fact that life isn't better.
Being honest about that fact is the first step to doing something about it. Pretending that this divide doesn't exist, or that it's okay for people to go generation after generation without change, opportunity, or upward mobility, is just more of the status quo.
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Fri Apr-11-08 05:09 PM
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1. 'Being honest about that fact is the first step to doing something about it.' |
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That needed to be said again.
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Fri Apr-11-08 05:16 PM
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2. Ah the rural vote scam |
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it is the most difficult zone to know. And so anybody can say anything about it. And mask thier vote manipulation with the suggestion that it was the country folk who swayed the vote.
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fri Apr-11-08 05:21 PM
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3. This makes total sense to me. |
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If I didn't have economic opportunities I'd probably spend a lot more time trying to blame it on something.
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Fri Apr-11-08 05:27 PM
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4. arent you glad obama uses the bible to justify his views against gays...just like the rurals do nt |
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Fri Apr-11-08 07:07 PM
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9. Obama doesn't have any views "against" gays. He's got the same rating as Clinton |
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From Human Rights Campaign: 89%.
Care to try another lie?
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Fri Apr-11-08 05:33 PM
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5. Being honest about it isn't the first step toward anything. The first |
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step is advice about what to do about it. It's a pattern with Obama, he's all about making profound speeches about the obvious & well known & his followers make it sound as if it's original thinking that contains something new thats of value.
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Fri Apr-11-08 07:08 PM
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10. If it's obvious and well known, why is no one else saying it? |
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Further, what exactly would make you happy? If you're looking for policies, there's a whole stack of them on his website.
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Fri Apr-11-08 07:31 PM
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11. There's a stack of them on every website, are they a binding promise?. Everything he says has been |
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said so many times & so many ways that it no longer has a meaning, except when he speaks his followers ascribe some kind of magic to it, as if it were a revelation.
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Fri Apr-11-08 05:34 PM
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6. That gets in the way of the clinton spin fantasy in my view. |
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Remember that one of Obama's points is that it is time we tell people how it is rather than what they want to hear.
There is a huge problem in small communities. However, With support and effort on the local level. These small towns can recover and worry about bigger things!
For instance one of the big projects I expect for smaller towns is to get completely on renewable energy and disconnect themselves from the grid.
A multitude of cheap wind and sterling engine solar generators can give small towns all the power they need!
etc..
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Fri Apr-11-08 05:46 PM
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one politicians honesty makes it easier for another politician to lie and pander.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:20 PM
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8. translation: Hillary does well with old, ignorant, white people in rural areas |
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And rural areas tend to be primarily old people.
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Fri Apr-11-08 07:33 PM
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12. Hey, were feeling it in well of Urban America too...lose 4% on a half million home and bitterness is |
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