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Fri Apr-11-08 06:24 PM
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"Bitter"gate: Obama is GREEN. We all know what he meant, but he needlessly gave fodder to GOP/HRC |
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It's frustrating as HELL.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:25 PM
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1. You will now be pounded mercilessly |
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:29 PM
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11. Lou Dobbs with Kitty Pilgrim framing it as |
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Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 06:29 PM by Texas Explorer
"Obama Slams Small Towns". And we'll be back to manufacture more outrage right after this message from KY Jelly.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:30 PM
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this will be portrayed as him saying that bitterness leads to guns and religion.
How important are guns and religion to middle America?
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:33 PM
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14. She just came out of commercials and said, and I shit you not, |
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"We need to get back to this very important controversy about Senator Barrack Obama's slam of small town Pennsylvania, characterizing them as bitter..."
GAWD. DAMN. IT!
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:25 PM
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2. Obama tells the Truth, the American People can handle it. |
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:26 PM
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5. God knows they did with Adlai and McGovern and Gore and Kerry |
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:26 PM
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3. Yeah that's what *I* want in a president. Someone to constantly dumb it down for me. |
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Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 06:26 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
I prefer digestible four second sound bytes.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:26 PM
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4. I don't think it's inexperience. I think it's a new way of communicating. |
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I 'm not a big believer in ANY politician being honest, but that's what Obama seems to be doing.
He's getting to the core of the issue and speaking in plain language.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:27 PM
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7. I agree with this.. and people aren't used to the truth, especially about |
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themselves. Its frustrating and it may cost him.. but he's doing it his way and I respect that.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:28 PM
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9. It was a mistake to use tjose words. His point could have been communicated better. |
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:34 PM
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16. Agreed, but I think offending people's stagnant sensibilities is needed sometimes to induce change. |
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I'm not in his head...I don't know if that's his thinking...but it makes perfect sense to me.
If he's going to help make real changes, people need to get used to hearing things in a different way. He's doing that.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:35 PM
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17. There is nothing wrong with what he said. n/t |
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:27 PM
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It doesn't matter what he says, anything can be taken out of context and twisted around into a smear by anyone inclined to stoop to that level. I could probably put together a hit job on Ghandi with a google search and 20 minutes of selective editing.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:28 PM
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8. Yeah and tested and ready-to-lead Hillary hasn't given the GOP any fodder at all. |
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:29 PM
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10. I'm really not seeing what the big hullabaloo is |
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people with less economic opportunity are pissed. What's the story here?
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:37 PM
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18. Damned right they're bitter, and with good reason. They don't need a lying politician |
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to tell them that they are not bitter. How stupid does Hillary think people are anyway????
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:40 PM
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19. "Hang on to what you've got" is the phrase I'm looking for |
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I may not have a job, but they sure as hell aren't going to take my gun.
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Fri Apr-11-08 07:12 PM
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25. The bigoted view toward gun owners, religion, and tarring small town folks as racists |
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Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 07:12 PM by jackson_dem
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:30 PM
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12. Holy shit! You're gonna get it now! n/t |
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:34 PM
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how do you account for hillary's lies about Tuzla or her bizarre reaction to being asked about bill's Columbia bucks? Is she just green? Someone who was green wouldn't be where Obama is now. I'm not sure if he erred here or not, but it has nothing to do with his being green.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:42 PM
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21. This is a tailor made rightwing exploiting slamdunk screwup. To top it off he said it in |
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SAN FRANCISCO.
The yeehaw brigade couldn't have written this one better.
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Fri Apr-11-08 07:13 PM
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26. Even worse he said it in SF in front of a bunch of millionaire types! |
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:41 PM
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20. Yeah, we want more bullshit and jingoistic nonsense. USA! USA! USA! |
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Obama NAILED it.
And guess what, this now opens a PERFECT opportunity for Obama to do a speech about NAFTA and hang that shit around Hillary's neck since it just so happens she was LYING about not being for NAFTA while First Lady.
Hillary took the bait. Obama can now NAIL her NAFTA support after all these years.
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:48 PM
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22. No, he's speaking as if he were speaking to adults |
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Fri Apr-11-08 06:56 PM
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23. Inexperience and lack of judgment. |
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I mean, you hand John McCain an opening like that? You explain that only bitter, unemployed people cling to their faith?
Just plain dumb.
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Fri Apr-11-08 07:03 PM
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24. Time to start the script |
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Take one word or phrase out of thousands uttered by candidate each day. Show clip of it repeatedly. Comment on what it means, why he chose to say it (anything other than what the word literally meant). Other candidates comment on it. Comment on how everyone is commenting on it. Avoid issues. Keep going as long as possible. Repeat forever.
Great way to choose a president.
This is worse than the Republican candidate's recent lobbyist troubles?
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Fri Apr-11-08 07:17 PM
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28. I am so tired of this...... |
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I'm ready to just throw up my hands and say FUCK IT....America, you deserve the President you get. Every time it's the same ol' shit.....manufactured outrage, swiftboating, and cries of flip-flopping. Meanwhile, our current President is just looking for a way to get us into Iran.
:banghead:
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Fri Apr-11-08 07:14 PM
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27. A sane post from Unsane |
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:thumbsup:
Be warned, the _____ does not tolerate dissent from its members and you will likely be savaged like the few other Obamites who strayed from the reservation.
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Fri Apr-11-08 10:03 PM
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29. ... just as Hillary dissed Mississippi when she urged Iowa not to be like |
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their misogynist hayseed neighbors down south?
Candidates sometimes say things that piss people off. No one is immune to it.
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Fri Apr-11-08 10:07 PM
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30. You're wrong, Unsane.... Obama described PA perfectly.... and... |
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..you'll be surprised at how this turns out.
I've lived in small-town PA my whole life. Obama nailed it.
...and telling the truth still works with us.
You'll see....
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Fri Apr-11-08 10:11 PM
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31. Actually the problem is that Clinton's lying has become despicable. |
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Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 10:13 PM by AZBlue
Twisting words, lying, cheating, misrepresenting the truth...it's all become a bit much.
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Fri Apr-11-08 10:12 PM
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32. I agree, but he handled it so magnificently well he may well bring more rural voters to his side |
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just like from the "wright-gate" controversy left him STRONGER than ever.
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Fri Apr-11-08 10:26 PM
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33. It is frustrating when candidates do and say things you find stupid and this is an example |
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that said, i dont think its as big of a deal as some people are making it out to be...
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Fri Apr-11-08 10:32 PM
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34. I suppose you consider this "seasoned"? |
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