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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:30 PM
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cant trust em's opinion: "bittergate" doesn't have enough ammo to last through the weekend
This will blow over pretty quickly.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:31 PM
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1. Not here,, rofl.. Hillary crew got nothin else since the pots and pans failed.. they'll
post this 24/7 until they find another Fake Gate to crow about.. :hi:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:43 PM
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15. That's the first thing I thought too.
The HRC attack dogs won't let anything go.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:32 PM
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2. I hope not. This is a great opportunity.
People just aren't used to hearing politicians speak the plain truth...that's changing rapidly :)
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:34 PM
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5. I agree
He will win Pennsylvania with the truth.

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people are most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.


Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long. They feel so betrayed by government that when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, then that adds another layer of skepticism.

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What is the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is -- so, we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- to close tax loopholes, you know, roll back the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama's gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we're gonna provide health care for every American.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.


There is audio

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:33 PM
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3. Problem is that as I see it It is Friend or Foe Ammo.
Sure first it is used againt Obama but it will QUICKLY harm the Clinton campaign as people not the amount of money Clinton makes and what they make at speeches.

Clinton would have avoided this if she would have just lightly agreed with Obama.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:33 PM
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4. I remember hearing the same thing the day the Wright stuff came out.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:35 PM
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6. The new Iron Man movie looks pretty cool
I'm interested in seeing it.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:51 PM
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18. I can't wait.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:36 PM
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7. You know it is a bad idea to bring that up Clinton Supporter.
Because it makes your candidate's campaign look desperate for anything. Pastor has failed because it ended many arguments about Obama and only started one. We were starting to move on from it but if yall choose to keep bringing it back it will just do harm to the Clinton campaign at this point.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:37 PM
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9. And Obama weathered that out fine.
He is up to pre-Wright numbers in the polls. This is a nothing.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:39 PM
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12. That was Wright. This is from his own mouth
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:41 PM
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14. And it is truth. People will agree.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:38 PM
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11. They are out of touch, just like Obama. No wonder they think he is electable
They think bashing small town folks as bigots is a positive thing. :crazy:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:37 PM
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8. Completely agree. Plus there is only shaky audio and no video.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:37 PM
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10. Just like Ed Koch and George Allen thought
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:39 PM
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13. i dunno.... he will get POUNDED on this one in the GE... this is 527 GOLD.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:44 PM
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16. Honestly, I thought pastorgate was it. I'm not seeing it with this one.
This is pretty weak, IMO. I don't even think that it needs to be put in context.

People who don't have economic opportunity are bitter? Never would have guessed.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:59 PM
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17. All his gates don't add up to a bucket of warm spit

Just made up little distractions like Al Gore's sighgate and invented-the-internet-gate.

No one's refuting him on the points or on his record, just silly season.

This coverage is just so dumb. Like when he gave the incredible and important speech on race, and the true news was his incredible speech and that he gave it. But the coverage was about grandmother-gate.

Put world on ignore.




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