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TAWS Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:00 PM
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What the heck? Obama uses the word "bitter" and it starts a controversy?
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 07:00 PM by TAWS
Obama said this during his race speech,

"In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience - as far as they're concerned, no one's handed them anything, they've built it from scratch. They've worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they're told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time."


And he says the same exact thing and it causes a controversy,

“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

What the heck??????
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:04 PM
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1. Yeah, he just can't get a break from the Media

:rofl:



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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:06 PM
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2. Well, the Clinton campaign is running out of rope and instead of....
...tying it around some issue that might/will resonate with the voters, they are trying to tie it to Obama in hopes of pulling him down to the point they can get ahead or, failing that, to just pull him down, period.

  I can't recollect a Democratic primary campaign quite like this.

PB
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:07 PM
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5. Obama did this one all by himself.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:08 PM
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6. No shit.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:14 PM
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13. um, did what, exactly?
spoke the truth?

please keep drawing attention to the fact that We The People have been screwed by the Bushes and the Clintons and the rest of the DLCers and corporate plunderers and outsourcers and tax dodgers and, yes, we ARE bitter.

repukes and fake "democrats" just don't get it: any mud you sling at Obama will be turned to his advantage. That is his brilliance. He did it with the Wright "scandal" and he will do it with the "bitter" "debacle," and he will do it all the way to the White House--so just keep bringing on these non-issues that point up Hillary's desperation, complicity, and lack of imagination.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:06 PM
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3. Didn't you hear? White people aren't bitter, they are just aware that everything outside of their
control is blamed on everyone and everything they can't control, they are angry, but not bitter. Really its amazing how dumb peoples thinking gets.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:07 PM
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4. This won't make sense to people who think like Obama.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:09 PM
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7. The GOP panties are in a...
...condescension/elitist wad.

Remember, this is happening as Old Man McSame is trying to "define" himself.

Old Man "I can imagine America in the Middle East for 100 years, yet cannot imagine Social Security surviving more than 40 years" McSame is trying to say he is the one to have a beer with.

He is nothing but a vain rich old man, who is so out of touch his ideas are not his own.


The "common man" celebrating his birthday with a legacy oil man as New Orleans drowns.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:09 PM
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8. he should look at the angry bitter religion he has clung to
guess he thinks he can insult votes out of PA

bet not


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TAWS Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:11 PM
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9. Sort of like how Hillary insulted the voters of Mississippi?
"I was shocked when I learned Iowa and Mississippi have never elected a woman governor, senator or member of Congress. There has got to be something at work here," she said, theorizing it may be the risk-averse nature of a state built around agriculture.

"I think not only do I have to bring people to me, I have to maybe reassure people here maybe more than I do in New Hampshire, which has had a woman governor," she said.

"I think Iowa poses a special burden, or a special obstacle to me because when you look at the numbers, how can Iowa be ranked with Mississippi? That's not what I see. That's not the quality. That's not the communitarianism, that's not the openness I see in Iowa."
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:13 PM
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11. you're a creep of the highest order. I hope you're not old enough to vote
and if you are I'm sorry for you
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:16 PM
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14. you got that one's number
one of the few that has escaped my Ignore net because she's like the court jester, a total buffoon.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:19 PM
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16. Ignored is the most creepy member here
:puke:
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:27 PM
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24. Yeah, they are everywhere.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:21 PM
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17. Christianity?
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:13 PM
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10. He also used the words guns and religion.
Apparently it's a bad omen to mention the obvious.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:13 PM
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12. also, not everyone was impressed by his 'race' speech
We really didn't need a speech on race relations of the past, present an future from Obama.

Tweety got all aquiver over it but most didn't.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:18 PM
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15. yes, especially the KKKers and aryan nations white supremacist creeps
who for some reason have come to feel that DU is some kind of hangout lately.

btw, who's "we" anyway?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:24 PM
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20. you can stuff your race card, Obama has spent 20 years in a race baiting hateful
church, neither he nor you have any room to talk


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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:30 PM
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26. your ignorance is pathetic
you have absolutely no idea of where Rev. Wright is coming from. YOu have heard 10 seconds out of 20 years of sermons. You wouldn't know a "race baiting hateful church" if it crawled out of your ass and bit you.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:38 PM
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28. I can't see the poster you're talking to, but I can only hope
a "race baiting hateful church" does crawl out of his/her ass and bites him/her.

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:48 PM
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30. heh--I finally did pull the plug on it, just something that dwells under a rock somewhere
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:24 PM
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21. For instance- Trusted Everyman Brit Hume called it "clever & deceptive"
n/t
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:30 PM
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25. I call it trying to change the subject by playing the race card
all the way back to slavery and the civil war, but didn't address why he would spend 20 yrs listening to Wright

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:36 PM
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27. Brit Hume (R) , McCain (R) & Hillary agrees with you 100%.
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 07:50 PM by Dr Fate
I dont.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:21 PM
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18. One especially annoying facet (to me) of his speeches
is the way he seems to talk down to his audience, to say the most basic things, stuff that people already know, as if he's talking to a bunch of wide-eyed idiots who don't know how to cross the street by themselves. He always sounds as if he's lecturing, puts in unnecessary background information, and so on. I find it extremely patronizing. I know that a lot of people disagree with this. I'm just saying this is how he affects ME.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:26 PM
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23. I agree, his arrogance is apparent
middle class voters are not impressed, add in the insults to their religion and their right to own guns and it isn't a 'winning' combination


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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:56 PM
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32. Obviously you have not understood...
a word he has said. But I wouldn't try to listen to anything he has to say ever again if I were you. Might send you off the deep end. Just watch Fox, and CNN. You'll be alright.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:22 PM
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19. He needs to attack Clinton on her disconnection with the working class.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:26 PM
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22. I'm bitter.
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 07:26 PM by Miss Chybil
From living under this Republican Regime for the last 7+ years. Think I'll make the news?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:41 PM
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29. Is harping on that statement the worst the Hill-Shrills can come up with?
Weak.

Even with playing the worst kind of gotcha politics and parsing all his statements to look for something to make him look bad, is this the worst all her consultants and staffers could find?

What a sorry excuse for an attack.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:53 PM
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31. Of course! Bill made another stupid comment...
so they had to hurry up and jump on something Obama said. They're getting pissed.. Wright didn't work, scary black dude is not working..so now he's an 'elitist'! I remember a while back he was a Washington 'Insider'..:rofl:
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