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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:22 PM
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The Deaning of Obama.
Obama said something real and true and intelligent. His opponent makes a big deal, selling out her soul for votes.

Having to explain yourself for telling the truth....a concept truly American now.

The media is well-trained. They pick up on it quickly.

Dean once said we were no safer with Saddam captured. His opponents devoured him, the media swarmed.

We are still no safer.

Hillary's response only shows me more that the Clintons are not what I thought they were once.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:23 PM
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1. The GOP_controlled media are doing PR for their boy Old Man McSame. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:34 PM
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5. The women on the view handed mccain his ass today..
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:42 PM
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13. The View?
Well, they're easily dismissed by the NASCAR crowd (Baldy McSame's real target).

No matter what anyone says, McSame's die has been cast as a "maverick".

That's the story and they're sticking to it.

Kudos to Behar, but The View still has that dumb blonde.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:46 PM
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16. Right..but the idea if you heard TYT is
these are comediennes and they could take him to task..easy as a whistle.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:49 PM
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22. Actually...
...for some reason videos aren't working on this computer.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:50 PM
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23. Ah, well, when you get a chance..
it's classic.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:47 PM
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18. yeah.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:29 PM
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2. Rasing more than 20 million a month without "big donors" lobbyist or the consultant class is scaring
...the shit out of them...

It's ok though, the more people hear him the more the like him
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:32 PM
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3. yesterday
David Shuster and Chris Matthews were calling him an elitist for asking for orange juice in a diner, instead of taking the coffee. They were literally like "Who does that?" Um...someone who doesn't want to get all caffinated up and have a Dean Scream moment?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:34 PM
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6. Quite frankly, I would take Dean's scream over Hillary's pandering....
any old time.

I would love to hear that scream right about now.

I am ready to scream when I see her face now, she is not who I thought her to be.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:37 PM
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12. also
At least, "Dean's Scream" was at a rally where he was egged on by the enthusiasm of his supporters. When Hillary was asked about Bill's Colombian trade lobbying money, she laughed for an uncomfortably long time and said that she didn't know what to say. Did she really think that someone was not going to ask her about it?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:35 PM
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8. Obviously somebody
Because they had Orange Juice....

Chris Matthews is an asshat sometimes...but I'm not going to take to the street with my pot about it.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:44 PM
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14. me neither
Chris Matthews is my favorite one-man traveling circus. He says gems like "The Democrats have to choose between an African American and a woman...oh my god, it's like Sophie's choice!" and "My son took the Chinese bus down from the city today to vote."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:33 PM
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4. Yeah, but Obama keeps on tickin' just
like Dean..these leaders are bigger than the m$$$m.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:34 PM
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7. whorporate media has been laying
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 07:40 PM by xxqqqzme
the groundwork for an Obama stumble for sometime. I was surprised to see the flashing 'breaking news' box when I turned on Countdown. I was disappointed to hear it was much ado about nothing. But lordy are those pundits baring their fangs or what?

Speaking of the good Doctor - I hope you all saw him on Tavis Smiley Wednesday night. Here's a link if you missed it: http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200804/20080409.html

I'm certain someone previously posted this but I've been playing Camille this week w/ a fever & body rattling cough. Today is my first day back in a week.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:36 PM
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9. He insulted people
He and his supporters may try to spin that into something else, but it remains the same - he insulted people and there's really no explanation for it.

He owes these people an apology. Period.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:37 PM
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11. Either you haven't read the full comment and thus are ignorant, or you have and are thus lying.
Which is it?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:48 PM
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19. lying
delusional
hateful
sick
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:35 PM
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34. I vote for ignorant, and willfully so...nt
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:55 PM
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25. Yep - an effort to do preemptive spin,,,
Obama was in California to raise money. He was attempting to make an early excuse/spin for losing Pennsylvania. He violated two political rules - (1) Don't trash a particular state (2) Don't blame the voters.

I can't recall the last time I heard a Democrat at any level blame the voters for why he is losing.

I just remembered - Obama is not really a Democrat.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:35 PM
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32. Oh, dear God...tell me you did not say that.
I think Obama is showing such class that Hillary is floundering.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:23 PM
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29. Why are you insulted?
oh nevermind. I know why.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:36 PM
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10. Let's wait and see. Obama has truth on his side, AND a way of turning lead into pure gold.
Let's see how he handles it.
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:45 PM
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15. Let's see
Bill Clinton Insulted Blacks and South Carolina.Ferrore Insulted Blacks.Any state that Obama has won has been attacked as unImportent Including my Home state of Missouri and relable Blue states Hawaii,Washington State,Minnesotta,Wisconsion,Marlnad,Connectiut,Maine,Vermont,and Washinton DC.
SOldiers are Insulted by the phony Sniper story and her joking about It on Leno.Let's not even
start with Mccain with Iraq,National Security,and Woman.So who Is the bigger Insulter.Not Obama.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:46 PM
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17. Meh. I'm not sweating it.
I'm done with letting the MSM whipping me up into a frenzy.

Beautiful things are happening in Philly. I prefer to focus on that.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:48 PM
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21. :-)
Beautiful things are happening up here too!

Glad to hear it!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:21 PM
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26. it's funny...I don't watch it...
I see what is said here, and that's quite enough. The thing I keep in mind is what the MSM never talks about...stuff like this...
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:48 PM
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20. Obama has truth on his side...
AAAND,

He has US!

As long as we stick with the man, we will not be stopped.

That's where O had improved on Dean's blueprint.

GOBAMA, and power to US.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:53 PM
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24. Don't be sad.
You better head over to the other threads talking about Obama's speech. They're having Barackgasms over there.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:23 PM
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27. What's the Matter with Kansas (Clinton).
Can't believe the shit I'm reading on this "progressive" board.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:23 PM
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28. MF, I Think This Is Better Compared to the Line About Pick-Ups With Confederate Flags
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 08:24 PM by Crisco
Only in that instance, Dean accepted those rednecks, didn't use negative language about them, and was crucified.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:33 PM
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31. You may be right. He got crucified by his own for both statements.
His "fault" was being too honest and blunt.

The media demands "pandering". Hillary and McCain just sort of coast along. Obama is causing some needed controversy, and I say good for him.

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:32 PM
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30. "Hillary's response only shows me more that the Clintons are not what I thought they were once."
Well you really can't blame her for taking a shot. I mean how else will she distract the press from Bill's latest collection of lies?

I'm hoping Obama will do a major speech next week, and highlight just how far out of touch McClinton really is. This woman feels the rural voters pain? She's worth $109 million bucks...puhleeze. McCain's wife is a gazillionaire automaton with freakish eyes, who apparently has a leather fetish, so I have a feeling Obama will emerge from this just as he emerged from the Wright controversy.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:35 PM
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33. speechwriters are SALIVATING
You know it....

There will be a major speech.
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