Obama just hit 'Bitter gate' out of the park. LOL

[GarbagemanLB]

Hillary Clinton supported a credit-card based Bankruptcy bill - "*I* am out of touch?"

It took McCain three tries to realize there was a housing crisis- *I* am out of touch?

[MadBadger]

1. I know, he nailed it.

[KaryninMiami]

2. I missed it- what happened?

[Yael]

12. Apparently HRC & Co are making hay

out of the fact that Obama said that Small Town, PA people are bitter.

I got news for people -- they are. Their jobs all went offshore.

[Pirate Smile]

19. He said how hard things are, politicians have been promising help for decades and nothing happens so

people vote on other issues because they don't believe the economic promises of politicians. They vote on guns or gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith and families because they are the only things that they can count on. He said People are bitter. Clinton and McCain attacking him for saying people are bitter and then calling him out of touch. People are bitter and frustrated. He knows what is going on in Penn, IN, IL ... Clinton voted for a bankruptcy bill that would have made it harder for people to get relief. It took McCain three times to figure out that there really is a mortgage crisis - and they call him (Obama) out of touch!

[godai]

20. He made a good response to the issue at a rally in Indiana.

He said some people are, of course, frustrated and bitter because they have heard promises from candidates which never are fulfilled. So, he said, people gravitate to issues like guns, gay marriage etc. out of their frustration and bitterness.

He went on to say McCain and Clinton call him out of touch but McCain took 3 tries to get interested in the mortgage crisis and Clinton voted for the credit card interest bill which hurt a lot of people.

He got a huge ovation. Remains to be seen how big an issue this becomes. I don't think the media and the Clintons will let it go.

[Hutzpa]

59. Then they will be walking into an

intellectual argument that they both can't win(Hillary and Clinton).

This is going to expose how mediocre they both are, just watch and

see.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. More, please?

My ESP is not functioning this evening.

[Joe the Revelator]

4. What did he say??

[Kaylee]

5. What did he say?

Never should have been an issue in the first place.

[thevoiceofreason]

6. Help me out here. What did he say?

[Adelante]

7. What? Where?

Come on, info.

[Coexist]

10. CNN live - it fuckin' ROCKED!

"of course they're bitter, of course they're frustrated"
"nobody is looking out for you, nobody is thinking about you."

"it took John McCain 3 tries to notice that the foreclosure crisis is a problem
and he says I'm out of touch".

Hitting Clinton on Bankruptcy bill - "and I'M out of touch?"

People are angry and bitter and frustrated and thats why I'm running.

[Cha]

13. Thanks! We knew it would

be sweet lemonade!

[redqueen]

25. He doesn't have to turn to focus groups.

He GETS IT.

:D

[Coexist]

31. hell yeah.

[Adelante]

Shit, I hope there's a video nt

[flpoljunkie]

11. It's on CNN Live online. People have a right to be bitter because their lives have not changed

and what they don't ever seem to get is change in Washington.

http://www.cnn.com/live

[MoJoWorkin]

8. Hell yes!!! He needs to keep that in EVERY stump speech from now on.

The audience just went wild!

[Connie_Corleone]

9. I missed the last part because the phone rang.

But what I saw was great!!

[acrosstheuniverse]

14. It really infuritates me that CNN never covered the speech on TV

and they are STILL talking about that shit

[Adelante]

22. On the Situation Room today, they really defended him very well

Toobin, Borgia and Cafferty. All three of them.

[thevoiceofreason]

41. They did do well

[flpoljunkie]

43. Dobbs is out to get Obama and his stand-in tonight knows what Lou expects from her.

She, Kitty Pilgrim, that is, flogged it relentlessly.

[Adelante]

62. That's to be expected, yes nt

[aasleka]

49. Taught the constitution and will obey the constitution !!!!$$$

[Cha]

16. Darn that phone!

:bounce: :kick: :party:

[Lucky 13]

60. was it at 3 am?

[george_maniakes]

15. The funny thing is, how does mccain and hillary respond?

i mean all hes doing is defending himself by defending those facing hard times and are pissed off.

[Lucky 13]

66. They respond....

Hillary:
HEHEHEHEHEH I mean... hehehe... what do you say to that? HEHEHEHEHEHEHE...(cough)line?!(cough)...

McCain:
They can face hard times for the next 100 years, you trallop, you c--t! Zzzzzzzzzz....

[pompano]

71. Yea Mr. Iraq for 100 years....

$10 billion a month for 100 years?

Isn't that like into the $quadrillions?

Jeez! Ya'll get ready folks, store brand Mac and Cheese is just around the corner... and Chek cola?
:puke:
:sarcasm:

[knixphan]

17. mmmmm....

Not too tart, not too sweet.

Lemonaaade, that cool refreshing drink...

[blogslut]

18. Yummy

Can't wait for the repeats/video.

[Scurrilous]

21. Gobama!

:thumbsup:

[Dr Fate]

23. McCain/Hillary hands out the lemons, then Obama makes the lemonade.

n/t

[wiggs]

76. Obama is excellent at that. Someone finally talks honestly but with pointed

elbows and with subtlety and directness at the same time that would make Lakoff proud. And he does it with accessible words and sentences that everyone can relate to.

I can't wait till he is able to set his sights on the GOP record over the last 7 years. FINALLY maybe someone will reach into the memory hole and weave the pieces of the GOP story together to create a true overall image of hypocrisy, arrogance, illegality, death, corporatism, corruption, misinformation, and deception. The story has been just sitting there waiting for someone...a journalist, a pundit, a politician, to expose these people. Someone has to say "Are you kidding me? Let's see if I have this straight.....here's what has happened over the last 7 years....."

The entire litany of misdeeds must be discussed as a whole to overcome the outrage fatigue that we all have. And I think that not only does Obama know how to do it -- and here's the key piece -- he is willing to do it.

[RememberWellstone]

24. Sure he did

All the people in Penn are so relieved too!:eyes:

[GarbagemanLB]

26. Yes, the 109 million dollar Clintons feel the common-person's pain. lol

[cali]

29. we'll see

you can't speak for the people in PA. and unfortunately for you, Obama has a way of handling
things. Hill on the other hand has a way of screwing herself and she has utterly no dignity.

[BeyondGeography]

32. Penn...isn't he the guy who bills Hillary $100K/day while he's lobbying against her positions?

[housewolf]

27. He sure did! Corp salaries, tax breaks for sending jobs overseas - "This is why people are bitter"!

Alright Obama! Tell the truth! Back yourself up, don't roll over and make the apology everybody's trying to push you into. Excellent!

[CakeGrrl]

40. Exactly. They're used to Dems rolling over and apologizing when they're RIGHT

and Obama's not gonna give it to them. Good for him!

Bring it on, Hillary. Do you really want Obama to go NAFTA on you in PA after you lied about it to win Ohio?

[hedgehog]

28. I think this issue is what , 3, 4 hours old? And he not only destroys

the issue, he turns it around to show how Hillary nad McCain are playing political games!

[redqueen]

33. They keep giving him the rope...

he's just letting them hang themselves with the same old campaign BS games they're used to being able to distract people with.

Heh... not this time, y'all. Not this time. :)

[Cha]

39. hilary, mcain, and the m$$$$m

make it so easy for him.

[Nedsdag]

30. GOBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!

:bounce:

[azmouse]

34. President Obama in Jan '09!!

:woohoo:

[boobooday]

35. Are they bitter?

Hell yeah. They have good reason.

[johnnydrama]

36. it's just PA that's bitter???

I just paid $3.97 for gas yesterday in California.

I should be just as bitter in a city with 10 million, then people that live in the small towns of PA.

[uponit7771]

37. They are STUPID to attack him on this issue. They BOTH our out of touch with the voters

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[DevonRex]

48. LoL. 6 whole posts and the freeper above bites the dust. :)

[Prefer]

70. HAHA - the only good freeper is a DEAD freeper!

Tombstone time.

[ima_sinnic]

51. when is Hillary going to pay the bills in the small towns she owes?

I guess she thinks the people are just a bunch of hicks who should kiss her ass. talk about elitist!

she can't even balance the budget of her campaign--she'd rather give the money to Penn to pay off people to support the trade deal with Colombia that she's lied about being opposed to.

your meme of "snob" is going to go absolutely nowhere. just like the idiotic "pots and pans protest" today.
you people are pathetic amd desperate.

oh, forgot to say, welcome back--a couple of people probably noticed you were gone and missed you ... :eyes: ... maybe you can stay a little longer this time before you eat the granite wafer.

[2rth2pwr]

53. good one!

[ima_sinnic]

56. at least Obama pays the small towners that Clinton couldn't care less about

some people put their money where their mouth is. others just pretend, while they pay their goons to go make trade deals with death-squad enablers.

[Diane R]

63. Six posts? Hillary must have just hired you.

[Adelante]

64. Welcome to DU

And go fuck yourself.

[Hawkeye-X]

78. Probably that freeper went his pants when he posted that pic.

made him all excited and shit.

Good day, Antidote!

[biglake]

42. Go Barack! Truthteller for the people. Thankyou for your courage!

[Imagevision]

44. Obama is darn good, I'm glad we've got him on our side,

[Stephanie]

45. MY ROUGH TRANSCRIPT >

When I talk with people there is frustration and there is anger and there is bitterness. I was in SF talking to a group at a fundraiser, and someone asked me, "how are you going to get votes in PA, we heard it's hard for working class people to get behind your campaign."

They've seen their jobs shipped overseas, their economies collapse, they've lost their jobs, they've lost their healthcare, and of course they're bitter, of course they're frustrated - you would be too! In fact many of you are! We've seen the same thing happen in Decatur, the same thing happen in ___, because the same thing's happening to YOU, and (people have given up on getting any help from Washington - paraphrased, missed that part) so you see them voting on guns, on the right to bear arms, the right to gay marriage, they vote on their faith issues, they (vote on these issues because they've lost faith in getting any change on the economic issues - paraphrase).

Now here's what's rich. Sen. Clinton says, "I don't think people are biitter in PA, Barack's being condescending," McCain says "he's out of touch," Out of touch? It took him (months to notice that people were losing their homes, and he says I'm out of touch? - paraphrase).

Sen Clinton voted for a credit card sponsored bankruptcy bill after taking money from financial services industry and she thinks I'm out of touch? No, I'm in touch. People are angry, they're bitter, they're frustrated and they want to see a change ion Washington. That's why you're here, because you want to see change. That's what this campaign is about. We said we're not going to take PAC money, we're not gong to take lobbyist money. How did we do it? We did it with you, (in small donations). And that's why you know I'm accountable to you.

[Dr Fate]

50. Gosh- no one will be able to relate to that.

What ivory tower has he been living in? ;)

[redqueen]

58. I'd love to be a fly on the wall

in Hillary's & McCain's campaign offices right now.

:rofl:

[kevinmc]

47. Obama is playing Chess ... Hillary and her group are playing Checkers ... Checkmate for Obama n/t

[Lucky 13]

68. Checkers? Try Hungry Hungry Hippos.

[yodermon]

80. This sums it up:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_Q0lTtPVTG40/R9bdXerse9I/AAAAAAAAL0M/aQUv1ZvLLNk/s400/Obama+Clinton.jpg

[johnnydrama]

52. I thinks this proves

That smart response is a lot better than rapid response.

Obama says that people are bitter about the economic situation in the US, which they most certainly are, and Clinton about as fast as possible comes out with, everything's fine, nothing to see here, don't worry, be happy, and it makes her look foolish.

It would make her look foolish, if she was just the normal rich politician, but even more foolish now that we know she's the $109 million dollar woman.

[C_U_L8R]

54. Thank goodness we are going to have a brilliant president

who respects the intelligence of every single American.

I am inspired by Obama.

[knixphan]

57. amen

[DemGa]

55. Did Obama address calling people gun-loving, racist, xenophobes

who rely on religion to cope with their bitterness?

My guess is no.

[Connie_Corleone]

61. Why don't you wait for a transcript or a video, Soundbite DemGa?

He talked about the guns, religion and immigration remark.

But, since you're so rude, I won't tell you what he said. You'll just have to wait.

[C_U_L8R]

67. excellent :-))

make em wait .. hahaha

[jenmito]

65. He DID address his comments...

check out the rough transcript above if you really care.

[DemGa]

79. Yes, I'm very interested

And Barack Obama danced and diverted around his comments like I knew he would.

[thevoiceofreason]

69. Here you go, sound-biter

This was just added to the Huffington Post article that started this mess:

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people are most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.


Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long. They feel so betrayed by government that when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, then that adds another layer of skepticism.

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What is the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is -- so, we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- to close tax loopholes, you know, roll back the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama's gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we're gonna provide health care for every American.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-s...

[earth mom]

82. Obama needs to know that the majority of this country are working class. nt

[cali]

77. my guess is you actually believe he said that.

sick.

[sellitman]

72. I have never seen a candidate improve like fine wine every day with no end in sight

Meanwhile the other candidates whine themselves out of contention.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

73. I forgot about Hillary and the 'bankruptcy bill'

another 'nail in her casket'

[supporter77]

74. Obama Lied to the American People - Hillary never voted for the bankruptcy bill !!!!

Hillary Clinton never voted for the Brankruptcy Bill of 2005. Hillary Clinton was the sole Senator not voting on the bill, due to the fact that Bill Clinton had heart surgery that day.

From Senator Clinton's official statement on the bill:

This bankruptcy bill fundamentally fails to accord with the traditional purposes of bankruptcy, which recognize that we are all better off when hard-working people who have suffered financial catastrophe get a "fresh start" and a second chance to become productive and contributing members of society. With the passage of this legislation, which makes obtaining this fresh start more expensive and more difficult, we are ensuring that many responsible Americans will continue to be buried under mountains of debt, and unable to take back control and responsibility for their lives.

In the days before S.256 was finally brought to the floor Senator Clinton voted for every amendment which would have added consumer protections to the bankruptcy bill. Amendments which were repeatedly rejected by both the Republican majority and far too many Democrats. She even voted against cloture in an attempt to keep the final bill from coming to a vote at all.

Several commentors correctly noted that Hillary Clinton supported the earlier bill (although she voted for amendments adding consumer protections in that bill as well). She wasn't the only Democrat to change her position (voting for the 2001 bill and against the 2005 bill) and I'm not qualified to compare the differences between them.

However, several articles have discussed her change of position, including this recent article in the NYTimes.

For what it's worth, Democratic Senators Akaka, Cantwell, Dorgan, Feinstein, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Mikulski, Murray, Nelson (Fl), Schumer and Wyden switched in the same direction as Clinton. John Edwards, who also voted for the 2001 bill, suggested he would have switched his vote as well.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/clinton-and-the-bankruptcy-law/

http://jinchi.blogspot.com/2007/03/hillary-clinton-and-bankruptcy-bill-of.html

[AlinPA]

75. It won't matter. The damn broadcast media will stay with this "small town" stuff

until the GE. I'm sure Fox "News" will cover it 24/7 for months. The broadcast media will decide who will win the GE.

[MattP]

81. Wait till the Debate..

They can keep him off the air, it will just make it the response have that much more of a impact when it comes up at the debate.

[azmouse]

83. kick