Bitter? Nah... I've got my hopemonger and he ROCKS!

[Coexist]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5461733

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5461424&mesg_id=5461424

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5461277&mesg_id=5461277

Enjoy the good reads.

Obama constantly amazes me - how it seems like they've got something on him, like he made a gaffe he won't recover from - and he throws it right back with a smile. For so long I watched good Democrats getting crucified with context and misdirection... and they were forced to crawl out and say sorry. And it killed me to watch it. Not this time... never again!

No shock, Barack, No drama Obama.

It just keeps getting better!

[Yael]

1. No drama Obama

Love that!

[H2O Man]

2. Obama is strongest

when he counters the attacks of his opponent. In boxing, it is called counter-punching. One waits for the opponent to lead, then catches them when they are slightly over-extended, and off-balance. By catching them as they are coming in, you double the impact.

We should thank those who keep serving up the attacks.

[Coexist]

4. I love your boxing analogies.

And you are right, we should thank them.

Political pundits must just salivate over his skill. They think they've got him and BAM! he shows them how its done.

[Faygo Kid]

3. Hillary is small. Again she reveals it.

[C_U_L8R]

5. Obama makes Hillary look silly

and quite petty

[Coexist]

8. and McCain.

[lander]

6. Hilliburton, Inc. doesn't get it!

And for good reason -- they can't see it from the inside out. When you're honest and open with the American people, a "gaffe" is just a "gaffe", not a reflection of one's character or motives. In other words, when there's no reason for people to distrust you, they won't.

Unfortunately for the HRC camp, they also seem oblivious to the fact that you can't take the moral high ground you don't have.

[Coexist]

7. Stephanie has a rough transcript of the remarks up:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5462114

[supporter77]

9. Obama Lied to the American People - Hillary never voted for the bankruptcy bill !!!!

Hillary Clinton never voted for the Brankruptcy Bill of 2005. Hillary Clinton was the sole Senator not voting on the bill, because that day Bill Clinton had heart surgery

From Senator Clinton's official statement on the bill:

This bankruptcy bill fundamentally fails to accord with the traditional purposes of bankruptcy, which recognize that we are all better off when hard-working people who have suffered financial catastrophe get a "fresh start" and a second chance to become productive and contributing members of society. With the passage of this legislation, which makes obtaining this fresh start more expensive and more difficult, we are ensuring that many responsible Americans will continue to be buried under mountains of debt, and unable to take back control and responsibility for their lives.

In the days before S.256 was finally brought to the floor Senator Clinton voted for every amendment which would have added consumer protections to the bankruptcy bill. Amendments which were repeatedly rejected by both the Republican majority and far too many Democrats. She even voted against cloture in an attempt to keep the final bill from coming to a vote at all.

Several commentors correctly noted that Hillary Clinton supported the earlier bill (although she voted for amendments adding consumer protections in that bill as well). She wasn't the only Democrat to change her position (voting for the 2001 bill and against the 2005 bill) and I'm not qualified to compare the differences between them.

However, several articles have discussed her change of position, including this recent article in the NYTimes.

For what it's worth, Democratic Senators Akaka, Cantwell, Dorgan, Feinstein, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Mikulski, Murray, Nelson (Fl), Schumer and Wyden switched in the same direction as Clinton. John Edwards, who also voted for the 2001 bill, suggested he would have switched his vote as well.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/clinton-and-the-bankruptcy-law/

http://jinchi.blogspot.com/2007/03/hillary-clinton-and-bankruptcy-bill-of.html

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11. yes, she did - she voted FOR it in 2001

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/clinton-and-the-bankruptcy-law/

"As a senator, in 2001, she voted for it, but it did not pass."

[kevinmc]

10. Checkmate Obama

TERRE HAUTE, INDIANA – At a town hall meeting in Indiana, U.S. Senator Barack Obama made the following comments in response to the Clinton and McCain campaign’s attacks:

“When I go around and I talk to people there is frustration and there is anger and there is bitterness. And what’s worse is when people are expressing their anger then politicians try to say what are you angry about? This just happened – I want to make a point here today.

“I was in San Francisco talking to a group at a fundraiser and somebody asked how’re you going to get votes in Pennsylvania? What’s going on there? We hear that’s its hard for some working class people to get behind you’re campaign. I said, “Well look, they’re frustrated and for good reason. Because for the last 25 years they’ve seen jobs shipped overseas. They’ve seen their economies collapse. They have lost their jobs. They have lost their pensions. They have lost their healthcare.

“And for 25, 30 years Democrats and Republicans have come before them and said we’re going to make your community better. We’re going to make it right and nothing ever happens. And of course they’re bitter. Of course they’re frustrated. You would be too. In fact many of you are. Because the same thing has happened here in Indiana. The same thing happened across the border in Decatur.

The same thing has happened all across the country. Nobody is looking out for you. Nobody is thinking about you. And so people end up- they don’t vote on economic issues because they don’t expect anybody’s going to help them. So people end up, you know, voting on issues like guns, and are they going to have the right to bear arms.

They vote on issues like gay marriage. And they take refuge in their faith and their community and their families and things they can count on. But they don’t believe they can count on Washington. So I made this statement-- so, here’s what rich. Senator Clinton says ‘No, I don’t think that people are bitter in Pennsylvania. You know, I think Barack’s being condescending.’ John McCain says, ‘Oh, how could he say that? How could he say people are bitter? You know, he’s obviously out of touch with people.’

“Out of touch? Out of touch? I mean, John McCain—it took him three tries to finally figure out that the home foreclosure crisis was a problem and to come up with a plan for it, and he’s saying I’m out of touch? Senator Clinton voted for a credit card-sponsored bankruptcy bill that made it harder for people to get out of debt after taking money from the financial services companies, and she says I’m out of touch?

No, I’m in touch. I know exactly what’s going on. I know what’s going on in Pennsylvania. I know what’s going on in Indiana. I know what’s going on in Illinois. People are fed-up. They’re angry and they’re frustrated and they’re bitter. And they want to see a change in Washington and that’s why I’m running for President of the United States of America.”