OBAMA's excuse for losing in PA is

[boston bean]

bigoted gun toting religious zealots.

That's how I take it.

The answer he gave was in response to a question about how he was going to get votes in PA.

Well I'm not sure his answer is the way to win them over, but it might push them away.

[Lerkfish]

1. what color is the sky in your world? is it pink? green?

when you want to return to reality, let us know.

[goclark]

42. LOL Twilight zone

I just saw the video and Obama knocked it out of the ballpark!

The people on the video were predominately White.

Look at their faces and see there responses.

They were on their feet in support of his message.

[AZBlue]

71. The clouds are made of marshmallow!!

No, really.

[Forkboy]

2. "That's how I take it."

'nuff said.

[polichick]

8. Hey, you took my answer...

Good on ya! :)

[dchill]

11. I take it with a glass of milk...

so my stomach doesn't get all acid-y. ;)

[BzaDem]

3. Why bother with religion if you have Obama instead?

Obviously I don't think he meant that. But others do.

[MadBadger]

4. Of course you take it like that....Go do one of your little powerpoint complaint videos to vent.

[boston bean]

7. I just may do that, but I didn't need you to tell me. nt

[kid a]

5. you are WAY over the top. But people see and hear what they want to.

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[thewiseguy]

9. Are the hillaryclintonforum members going to REC this thread or not? lol

[AllentownJake]

12. Can we start just calling them

The Pot Bangers?

[lachattefolle]

13. Do whatever you want.

[emilyg]

62. Whatever gets you through the night.

[DJ13]

10. Up your dosage

Oh hell, just take the whole bottle......

[LisaM]

14. Yes, I don't know if he was conceding Pennsylvania with those remarks

Or if they'll cause him to lose it by a larger amount.

[chill factor]

34. Watch the video - he has the greatest comeback and the crowd

went wild!

[kid a]

15. Oh and about your sig line... misogynists get stuff done too...what's your point

[Starbucks Anarchist]

16. Hillary's excuses for losing the nomination:

- Caucuses
- Red states
- States with black people
- Landlocked states
- Getting debate questions first
- Speeches
- Rallies
- Sniper fire

[krkaufman]

73. also...

- Keeping promises (MI & FL pledge)
- Small states
- Unreliable youth vote
- Republican crossovers
- ... and Obama not waiting his turn

[rocktivity]

17. He doesn't have to win PA

In fact, he doesn't have to win ANY of the remaining contests. All he has to do is prevent Hillary from getting more than 55% of the vote, which will make it impossible for her to appeal to the superdelegates. Can he do it? Yes, he can.

:headbang:
rocknation

[ej510]

18. Clinton supporters are the most uniformed people that you could run into.

They watch Fox,Lou Dobbs, pat Buchanan, and Joe Scarborough. Racist. it's ok to be racist if you talk positively about Hillary.

[jackson_dem]

49. This isn't about PA. He is unelectable now as a GE candidate

[roseBudd]

52. But you said he was unelectable before now!

[jackson_dem]

56. Unlikely to win (I would give him a 30-35% shot against McSame)

Now I would give him a 10-15% shot. If the economy completely tanks he could still win.

[roseBudd]

64. And we should listen to Hillbot with profile disabled because?

[Nedsdag]

66. jackson_dem is a closet Republican.

Why else would jackson_dem continue to promote the McCain campaign at the expense of Obama?

Such hatred will get you nowhere my friend.

[C_U_L8R]

19. That's fine but when you build your campaign

on twisted words and vapour like you're helping Hillary do,
you have to realize that it doesn't take much for it to collapse.

Good luck with that.

[boston bean]

22. hope you can take your own advice. nt

[C_U_L8R]

23. I have not twisted words... your's or Hillary's

unlike your OP. That's pretty evident.

[totodeinhere]

20. Did Obama lose the PA primary?

I must have missed something. I thought the primary hadn't been held yet.

[anamandujano]

74. As a Hillary supporter, it's comforting to hear him offering up excuses

already. His internal polling must be interesting.

He's hitting out at whites in advance for his loss. They are bitter, gun-toting, bible thumping ignoramuses (and the old tried and true, racist.)

[ProSense]

21. Here,

watch: Obama Responds to McCain and Clinton attacks in Terra Haute

It's liberating!

[Politicalboi]

27. Obama nailed it again

I heard what he said about being bitter and I thought yeah he's right. And his response to those who didn't get it was excellent.

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=1is4x0

[chill factor]

33. I watched the video.....

I hope others do to! Senator Obama really laid it on the line - what a comeback! He is an AWESOME candidate.

While I am here - I have a beautiful picture of the Obama family. How do I get that picture into a post? Can anyone help? I wish cut-and-paste would work but it doesn't. :-(

[ProSense]

36. Try this:

right click on the image, click on properties, copy the url (ends in jpg) and post. Good luck.

[chill factor]

44. thank you!

[McCamy Taylor]

24. I thought his supporters already established they are all racists like in Ohio, Tx, NH and Calif.

[Window]

46. That's what happens when YOU think.

[Auntie Bush]

55. LOL

[MannyGoldstein]

25. IF He Loses, He'll Likely Say It Was Because...

... The Clintons got more votes. He'll congratulate them, and move on.

[Bensthename]

26. What is Hillary's excuse for losing a 26 point lead to single digits?

[BlueIdaho]

28. Obama probably won't win PA

But he knows that - after all not that many weeks ago HRC had a lead in the 20's. Both campaigns wrestle with setting expectations but the cold hard truth of the matter is he doesn't HAVE to win PA. HRC not only needs to win PA - she needs to win by double digits. Then she needs to win the rest of the primaries by a like amount - and that is not going to happen.

[MrSlayer]

29. I guessed you missed him absolutely nailing Clinton and McCain on this idiotic attack.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x117373

You can see it at the above link.

[cui bono]

30. Link? Or do you not want people to see for themselves what he actually said?

[boston bean]

35. here you go:

“I was in San Francisco talking to a group at a fundraiser and somebody asked how’re you going to get votes in Pennsylvania? What’s going on there? We hear that’s its hard for some working class people to get behind you’re campaign."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5462241&mesg_id=5462241

[cui bono]

40. Seriously, how did you come to your conclusion from that video? n/t

[JoFerret]

31. He is too green,

too blatantly out of touch. too elitist. too patronizing.

he managed to hit all these themes with this crass and condescending comment.

[chill factor]

41. as a university professor who teaches speech courses...

Senator Obama is none of the things you say he is...he is honest, forthright, faces criticism head-on, and his comeback speech knocked Hillary and McSame to the floor! Of all the candidates, he is the one "in touch," he is not an elitist - he did not grown-up in the wealthy households like Hillary and McSame but was raised by a single mother and his grandparents, and patronizing? Give me a break! Senator Obama is the MAN! :bounce:

[JoFerret]

54. He comes across as deeply patronizing to many

Look Obama stuck his foot in his mouth. Came across as a posing patronising political rookie totally out of touch.

He may be none of those things but that is how he came across to some and is CERTAINLY how some will try to paint him.

He may be the MAN (what does that actually mean?) As a speech professor can you explain what that means and why I should be impressed by that

He misstepped. Not the end of the world. He is still a saint and a savior and etc.

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[rodeodance]

32. REC

[Obamanaut]

37. What is HRC's excuse for the whole thing not ending Feb 5th? nt

[DemBones DemBones]

38. He stuck his big foot in his big mouth this time.

And all the W.O.R.M. in the world won't make it go away.

He got out there in SF and thought he could laugh at those working-class "hicks" back in PA.

Wrong. This is his Macacca moment.

[chill factor]

48. Senator Obama made a great comeback...

He not only has already "recovered" - he did it in a smack-down manner. Hillary and McSame are going to have to pick themselves up off the floor! If they had been smart, they both would have kept their mouths shut.....

[jackson_dem]

50. Not in the real world. His "explanation" did not even answer the real question

Of course Obamties are going to believe any "explanation" from him. How many other people will, though?

[Maribelle]

57. Sorry. Obama has made no comeback. The outward thrust has just begun.

And - I doubt the ones he has hurt the most would even bother to listen to him again.

It's one thing for his followers to fall on their knees with every word he utters - - but in the real word the full impact of Obama's hateful words has not been reached. Watch. Obama supporters might just want to skip Sunday morning.

[cui bono]

39. Wow. You got all that from this?

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is -- so, we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- close tax loopholes, roll back, you know, the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama's gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we're gonna provide health care for every American. So we'll go down a series of talking points.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

[billyoc]

43. "I got fewer votes". nt

[Maribelle]

45. Oops. Obama is in a whole heap of trouble with this one.

That's quite a knife he has stabbed into the heart of America; her steel workers, coal miners, blue collar workers. This is huge.

[PVnRT]

53. So you really believe no one is bitter?

If so, you need to get out into the real world on occasion.

[Maribelle]

58. So you really believe that's all he said? Please. Put that back in its proper context.

[PVnRT]

68. I know exactly what he said. I heard him say it tonight.

When put in context, it does make sense. Maybe you ought to try it.

[sueragingroz]

60. a brick is not a wall

that's an old legal maxim http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/ACRule401.htm

but a whole ton o bricks...

[Ilithiad]

61. It is bigger than huge...

...it is monstrous....I was apalling...despicable....such a mouth full of shit....There is 12% undecided in PA and this just made their decision not to vote for Obama. They maybe bitter but to call them religious clinging and anit-immigration....read into those words...he just told those ppl who lost their jobs to over seas that they wont get their jobs back because he supports immigration..illegal immigration I am certain was implied...gun toting....that is an anti-gun statement for sure....He will not win PA for sure with these comments...and if you Obama supporters say it was taken out of context. BULLSHIT! Those are his words. He is an elitist like some have said...Is it huge? Yes he let his big mouth get the better of him. He wont be the media's golden boy after this.

[PVnRT]

51. Bwahahahahaha good one

Oh, wait, that wasn't a joke.

Did you actually listen to what he said, or do you just run with the talking points you agree with?

[sueragingroz]

59. hahahahah

Hey MassDem...

Are you playing mr obvious tonight?

I like!

:thumbsup:

[Elisabethveron77]

63. What Obama said left me scratching my head

He actually said that voters cling to religion when they are unemployed.
So employed people shy away from religion? It was just an odd comment. I don't understand what made him say this.

[JeffR]

65. I expect a lot of people guessed correctly in advance how you would take it.

We're all like Kreskin now anticipating your next post almost verbatim. It's a little scary.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

67. and that's exactly how he meant it too.

[AtomicKitten]

69. I don't think he expects to win but, if he does, what will Hillary's excuse be?

My guess is one of the "isms." The part of The Victim in this evening's performance of Why The Democratic Process Is Mean To Me And Making Me Lose will be played by Hillary Clinton.

[jackson_dem]

70. Being outspent 3:1. Obama should be up 20 points with that kind of spending

[krkaufman]

72. No, that was not the question to which he was responding. Try quoting ...

... the actual question, and we'll see how truthful you were.