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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:17 AM
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CNN Video: Cafferty et al are DISGUSTED by Hillary and McSame for Distorting Obama's Comments on PA
Glad to see these people at CNN aren't falling for Hillary and McSame's crap regarding their lies about Obama's comments. They even praised Obama for speaking the truth about the corruption of Washington and how Obama is the only one who is really out to help Pensilvanians and the rest of the country:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x117454
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:20 AM
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1. This may bode well for PA., and the world. eom
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:21 AM
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2. Already seen this, but K&Ring for wall-to-wall coverage with this astounding video !
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:23 AM
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3. Here's a transcript - great commentary, they were all disgusted by it >
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/11/clinton-mccain-respond-to_n_96318.html

BLITZER: All right, Gloria, he's already being hammered by Hillary Clinton and John McCain for that matter for supposedly being an elitist and speaking ill of the people of Pennsylvania by suggesting that the economic problems there are causing them to become bitter and buying guns and becoming xenophobic and all of that. What do you think? Is this a real issue out there?

GLORIA BORGER: Well, Hillary Clinton said today, you know, I don't see bitter people out there, I see struggling people or whatever it is, but she said the people aren't bitter. But I think the people are angry – and maybe Obama's terminology was in artful but I think he's expressing a sentiment of mad-as-hell-voters, not going to take it anymore, that we've seen throughout this election. And that's why perhaps voters are saying over and over again that they want to change. So I think Hillary Clinton is trying to make him into the elite candidate but he's talking about people being angry.

BLITZER: All right, and Hillary Clinton responded to the Obama comments this way; Jeff. Let me play her little sound bite.

HRC: It's being reported that my opponent said that the people of Pennsylvania who faced hard times are bitter. Well, that's not my experience. As I travel around Pennsylvania, I meet people who are resilient, who are optimistic, who are positive, who are rolling up their sleeves. They're working hard every day for a better future for themselves and their children. Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them.

BLITZER: All right, Jeff. What do you think?

JEFF TOOBIN: I think that is so ridiculous. I mean that is not at all what Barack Obama said. I just think this is an example of how a campaign between the two of them can be purely destructive. And not elevate either candidate. I mean, Hillary Clinton is clearly distorting what Obama said. And by the way, what Obama said is factually accurate. It's been true throughout history that people who have economic problems lash out against various others. I mean, I just think it is an embarrassing for the Clinton campaign to hang on this as if it's some sort of gaffe by Obama.

BLITZER: It's not just the Clinton campaign, Jack it's also the McCain campaign. They issued a statement saying it's a remarkable statement and extremely revealing it shows an elitism towards and condescension towards hard working Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking. It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans.

JACK CAFFERTY: Really? And this is from John McCain?

BLITZER: No, this is from Steve Schmidt a senior adviser for John McCain.

CAFFERTY: Look, Jeff's right. They call it the rust belt for a reason. The great jobs and the economic prosperity left that part of the country two or three decades ago. The people are frustrated. The people have no economic opportunity. What happens to folks like that in the Middle East, you ask? Well, take a look. They go to places like al Qaeda training camps. I mean, there's nothing new here. And what Barack Obama was suggesting is not that the people of Pennsylvania are to blame for any of it. It's that the jerks in Washington, D.C., as represented by the ten years of the Bushes and the Clintons and the McCains who have lied to and misled these people for all of this time while they shipped the jobs over seas and signed phony trade deals like NAFTA are to blame for the deteriorating economic conditions among America's middle class. I mean, I'm a college dropout and I can read the damn thing and figure it out.

BORGER: You know, in this case the Hillary Clinton campaign and the John McCain campaign have the same goal and that is to portray Obama as this sort of (inaudible) elitist who doesn't understand the real working class people or independent voters. And so they're both on the same side on this one and it's obvious why.

BLITZER: Go ahead, Jeff.

TOOBIN: I just think it's remarkable that Barack Obama, this guy who grew up in a single-family household with no money, who lived in Indonesia, who came from very modest upbringings, somehow he's the elitist? That's really a pretty extraordinary sort of contortion of his background. I mean.

BORGER: It's that Harvard, Yale thing.

CAFFERTY: He did not make $109 million in the last eight year did he?

BORGER: Right.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:33 AM
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7. Oh, thanks..I want to tell my
son about this clip tomorrow and he doesn't have a computer but I can read the transcript if he didn't tape the show himself.

Gloria Borger was looking good.:)
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:13 AM
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29. OK good...it's not just me
shwew! I thought I was the only man on this planet that gets turned on by Gloria Borger...there's something about that little mouth of hers....


Oh yea....K N R
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:52 PM
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35. I think she looks good from a standpoint of
she's been around a long time and she's looking better(healthier)than when I use to see her on Face The Nation years ago.:)
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:13 AM
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14. Did Jack say Pennsylvanians are joining al Qaeda?
:scared:
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:09 AM
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17. Seriously? He was making a COMPARISON
...saying that people in the MIDDLE EAST, when they have their economy gutted by their government, get frustrated. One of the outlets they might use to vent their frustration is to join al-Qaida. Did you not see the analogy he was trying to make?

No wonder Hillary's distortions can be so effective. Misinterpretation happens a lot.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:36 AM
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20. I believe that economic fear was the
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 02:37 AM by gateley
genesis of the Skinheads.

EDIT: When people feel helpless and impotent, they lash out. I think that was the point Cafferty was making.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:43 AM
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24. Agreed on that point
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 02:44 AM by CakeGrrl
that economic distress can turn people into extremists. I was disagreeing with the poster's interpretation of Cafferty's statement that Pennsylvanians were going straight to al-Qaida, but to your point, extreme poverty and hopelessness could drive them or any others similarly affected in the U.S. to the KKK or Neo Nazis or other local extremist groups.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:49 AM
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25. I shouldn't have responded to you --
I agree with your post. I meant to respond to the same poster you did. :hi:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:24 AM
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4. And all that was before Obama's response. I think this is going to be a net positive for him.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:24 AM
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5. Absolutely.
It gave him such a great opening. Can we talk about NAFTA some more now, please?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:35 AM
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8. Oh it was, eh..wow!
Obama's done it again..started another National discourse.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:25 AM
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19. How to alienate voters in three easy lessons.
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:32 AM
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6. It would really be sad if Obama felt he had to take into
account how the Clinton campaign will twist every word he says. Fortunately he doesn't have to and continues to speak without artifice or equivocation. That's the way a real president should act and I do believe we have a real one on the way.
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:36 AM
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9. penns replacement is off to a crappy start...
handing obama the mantle of Defender of the discontent. Jeez, how many people in the states dont like the status quo?
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:41 AM
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10. He is ONCE AGAIN handling a "flap" *MASTERFULLY* - how'd Clinton do with snipers?
Oh yeah..... she blew it, and still blows it...someone buy a Muzzle for Bill.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:44 AM
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11. Breaking News! MSM furious that they don't dictate all news.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:08 AM
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12. This has no place to go but to back fire.
MSM played this loop before and lost.

Clinton said, "Well I don’t think people are bitter in Pennsylvania."

I feel the strength in Obama when he stands his ground and I just love it!! This to me is the best part!!
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:15 AM
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32. when she uses that soft voice
it comes across as being so damn phony-I mean the people behind her weren't even inspired or convinced
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:12 AM
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13. It won't matter. Some Hillary fans only trust Fox now anyways.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:57 PM
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36. fauxsnooze is the the den of iniquity and anybody
who laps up their trash..has it coming.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:52 AM
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15. K/R for truth.
:kick:
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:02 AM
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16. I can't believe you posted this. Don't you know that we Democrats are supposed
to rely only on Fox News and NewsMax for our opinions now? This makes you look like a liberal or something.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:23 AM
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18. She is like Bush in that she is trying to make fools of the media, trying to get free air time
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:38 AM
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21. I just LOVE Jack Cafferty. He SOUNDS like a conservative,
but he just about HATES anything conservative and that sounds like business as usual politics - and he likes Obama....

:headbang:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:39 AM
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22. Praise the lord the media are awake Obama has the world support and the midas touch. Yes we so can.
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 02:40 AM by cooolandrew
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:40 AM
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23. Loved it today - he nailed Clinton on Bosnia, called it a LIE
He's great, love to watch him.

The other media people have no spines and won't call a lie a lie.

Clinton's don't lie, they mis-speak.

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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:01 AM
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26. Thanks for the link
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:58 AM
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27. kick
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:59 AM
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28. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:14 AM
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30. The Fox/Clinton channel is talking about the "bitter" comment of course/
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:15 AM
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31. I should hope so. If ANYONE is "bitter" it's Jack Cafferty...
"Bitter anti-politician" is his bit, for chrissake.
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J R Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:27 AM
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33. This just goes to show ya...
...just how much the US media has the ability to shape public sentiment. We've just experienced 7+ years of GOP abuse of the US media. We should give as much effort to cleaning up and improving our nation's media that we do to government reform. Change is needed in SEVERAL areas of life here in the US of A.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:50 AM
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34. K&R
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:44 PM
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37. K&R
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:45 PM
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38. I think most ethical people are disgusted by Hillary's tactics. It's called "integrity." n/t
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:11 PM
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39. Wow! Just wow!
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 10:25 PM by goclark
Usually it's just Jack fighting all alone for the truth.

This time he had company.

I hope I don't get flamed for this but I am African American.

When I heard Hillary Clinton in full drama mode telling the people that they were not bitter, they were optimistic etc. etc. etc., it reminded me of how Whites would talk about how happy the slaves were because they would just sing and dance and pray to Jesus at night.

She doesn't know how they feel and doesn't care.

When people come to see her,they are not telling her how they don't have money to pay the rent,no car ~ they are coming to meet someone that they admire!

They want to have their picture taken and cheer for the former First Lady.

How many times has she actually walked in the ghetto/barrios/poverty areas and how long did she
stay?

Now Obama on the other hand has real "experience" in the ghettos of Chicago. He was a community organizer. He knows bitterness and despair when he sees it.

I do as well.

For 12 years I taught in the heart of the urban ghetto. Despair is in the "eyes" of the children and you can see when they take their seats in the morning what the night sleeping on a cold floor must have been like.

I would sometimes take them home from school and no one would be there to answer our knock, parents were druggies or just got put in jail. My heart would break so many times. It still breaks.

If any of the candidates can speak with authority on what POVERTY and LACK OF HOPE looks like it is Barack Obama.

You can believe that he is qualified to also recognize what "bitter because I haven't worked in 2 years " looks like.

A few words about John McCain... He has the nerve to put Obama down for his remarks about bitterness. John McCain walks with bitterness every day. He is bitter and doesn't seem to have a clue.
All he wants to do is win the election and get a hug from GW. It's so sad.

I have heard one too many times about that temper of his and I would have a temper too if I was a POW. He deserves to be bitter and it is painful to even imagine that he could be President of the United States.


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