Nader's Arizona petition signatures contain 92 percent Repukes!

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BwwwaaaaHHaaaa!

by kos
Fri Jun 11th, 2004 at 19:24:59 EDT

Consider as rumour until verified, but this has been a solid source in the past.

42 Democratic volunteers in Phoenix are currently checking Nader's Arizona petition signatures. Nader needs a 32 percent bad signature rate to be knocked off the ballot, and so far, after 2,000 checked, the rate is 37 percent.

Of those 2,000 signatures, 5 percent have been Democrats, 3 percent "other" or independent, and 92 percent Republican. If this number is verified, and if it holds up over the full 22,000 petition signatures, it will be a clear indication from where Nader's "support" comes.

Update: Ha ha, Nader's Arizona state director was just kicked out of the AZ Dem party HQ, where he was pretending to check petition signatures for the Dems.
by kos
Fri Jun 11th, 2004 at 19:24:59 EDT

Consider as rumour until verified, but this has been a solid source in the past.

42 Democratic volunteers in Phoenix are currently checking Nader's Arizona petition signatures. Nader needs a 32 percent bad signature rate to be knocked off the ballot, and so far, after 2,000 checked, the rate is 37 percent.

Of those 2,000 signatures, 5 percent have been Democrats, 3 percent "other" or independent, and 92 percent Republican. If this number is verified, and if it holds up over the full 22,000 petition signatures, it will be a clear indication from where Nader's "support" comes.

Update: Ha ha, Nader's Arizona state director was just kicked out of the AZ Dem party HQ, where he was pretending to check petition signatures for the Dems.

[Zynx]

1. No good Democrat would sign a Nader petition.

[LyleNews]

8. Nader Still Has a Seat at Norquist's Wednesday "Prayer" Breakfast....

Most of his sustaining funding has come from such 'non-partison' whoring. Leave the quarter on the dresser and he'll grab it on the way out....

[newyawker99]

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[Sirveri]

2. Makes sense.

They would just love to have Nader on the ballot because they're stupid enough to think that our party is stupid enough to fall for it again. All those Repuke votes will leave the second they've signed that piece of paper. Bastards, I mean, there's something just wrong about signing something in bad faith.

[liberalmike27]

3. Well

I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me, and I know that a lot of other Nader supporters feel the same way.

I accept the fact that Republicans will be the ones who want Nader on the ballot. Eventually they will pay for this. If Nader does tilt the presidential race away from Kerry, which I doubt he will, he will probably be responsible also for skewing the congressional elections back to democrat. I don't know if you agree with this, but that is far more important than getting the presidency, especially when it is between two elitist, rich-boy, skull and bones Yalee's.

To speak to Democratic voters, if you want Nader to not run, then vote for the candidate who holds enough of his views to fend him off. That would be Dean, for those who don't know. If you let the media manipulate you into voting for Kerry, and you'll notice their love-affair with Kerry is now over, then you deserve a race with Nader. Nader needs to be there to address the rest of us in society, those not served and totally ignored by the two majors. Are there differences between Kerry and Bush? You bet! Are there enough? No way. It isn't any surprise that Nader entered the race just after Dean was executed by the media machine. I'm surprised that you guys don't know by now that the media is both conservative, and does-not have your interests held high, on the air.

Dean was a certain threat to them, both to Bush and to the conservative media moguls. They conspired to eliminate him just as he was gaining critical momentum. In my meet up, the membership tripled, just before the network used his enthusiastic address to the Iowa crowd to drive the last nail in the coffin, added to an intensification of rhetoric and biased pro-kerry coverage before that. Until Democratic voters choose a good candidate that represents all of us, a Nader type leftist will always be a threat. The only way to neutralize it is to embrace it as part of your platform. With Dean's populism, we'd have had a five point advantage now, and no Nader. With Kerry the centrist-I-don't-know-what-I-am, we have Nader and a close race.

[lojasmo]

4. right on, Mike

Hope you're wearing your flame-proof suit.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

10. Bye.

Vote for Bush directly or indirectly by voting for Nader - either way it's the same thing. And it doesn't matter how you justify it - with false rhetoric about Kerry or false rhetoric about Nader - either way it is the same thing.

http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm

[fujiyama]

12. Give it a rest!

Go spout the Naderite bullshit everywhere. Nobody believes Kerry is perfect, but this idea that "Nader will help dems get elected to congress" was disproven in '00.

If you want Bush for four more years, just come out and say it. I know for a fact that Dean does not and is working his ass off in getting Kerry elected.

[Sirveri]

13. You want to know why I'm voting Kerry?

Because Kerry is the ONLY person who can knock Bush out of the office.

You want to know how I felt during the 2000 elections. I felt like I was being forced to chose between trash and garbage. Between crap and shit. But because I was imminantly more frightened of Bush, I voted for Gore. My vote was a vote against Bush. Sure, I was disheartened by the bemocratic party, and living in CA I could have thrown a protest vote out for Nader. But when I looked at the polls showing a DEAD HEAT. All because of Nader. When I looked at the people supporting Bush talking about how he's a 'good christian' man. When I saw his record on abortion. And his record on the Death Penalty. And just how horribly he would screw up this country. I voted against Bush. I voted Gore in 2000. Bush got in... and it was WORSE than I could have imagined.

What you pro-Nader people don't seem to realise is that this is not about the war. This is about saving the ship. You don't sit and pour diesel into the engines as the ship is burning up and going down. You get down in the hole and do something other than what you want to do and band together with the rest of the crew to save the ship.

Nader knows he will not win. You know Nader will not win. Anyone voting for Nader will not win. It's pretty clear that people who support Bush will NOT support Nader, so obviously Nader will only pull votes from the Democrats. Which makes every Nader vote, a vote for Bush, a person who has basically shown himself to be the anti-thesis of Nader. If Nader was a smarter and bigger man, he would drop out. But instead he's a little egotistical troll doing the bidding of the party of evil. Anyone who follows him deserves Bush, because they're too fucking stupid to see the facts.

I tell you what, if it is like a week before November and Kerry is leading in the polls by a good 10-20 points, go ahead and vote Nader. I know I won't care, the end result of Bush being out on his ass will be accomplished. That is actually what I think is going to happen, if Nader has any sense of decency and he isn't just a doppleganger working for the GOP. He'll drop out and throw all his votes to Kerry. That is what I'm hoping will happen, because I can not afford another 4 years. I'll be lucky if I'm not homeless by the time the election rolls by.

[cosmokramer]

15. Are you kidding me?

If Kerry does not win because Nadar gets a certain percentage of the vote, people are just plain stupid.

What does Dean have anything to do with it? If Dean were the nominee, the election would already be over! George Bush LANDSLIDE victory over the crazy lunatic from that there northern state. At least Kerry is competent and can speak without shooting his foot off, or putting it in his mouth. Good grief!

[ima_sinnic]

5. the Repukes have so little confidence in their own candidate

that they feel compelled to do shit like this. they know Bushit is a loser so they think they can split the Democratic vote so The Naked Ape will "win" by default. wrong.

just like they hacked the Pledge Your Vote poll over at congress.org and so laughably made it look like Bushit "suddenly" (in the space of about 3 hours) got 10,000 votes--and of course the 2000 election goes without saying. the ONLY way they can ever win is by cheating.

gee, think they're getting desperate or anything? ;)

[Rowdyboy]

6. Who else would sign Nader petitions?

A few short-sighted Greens who refuse to learn for experience and those who stand to benefit financially-ie Republicans.

Nader is irrelevent for anything EXCEPT helping Bush. And anyone who doesn't understand the difference in President Bush and President Kerry, deserves four more years of President Bush.

[DaveSZ]

7. Alright then

Let's prop up this guy:

http://www.peroutka2004.com/

At the very least he could help Kerry win Pennsylvania.

[union_maid]

9. Not a big surprise

Nader is all the Republicans have going for them this time around and they know it.