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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:12 PM
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This is one of today's pieces of propaganda from a RW friend:
Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:

1 ) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2 ) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3 ) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1 ) Consumer confidence plummet;
2 ) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3 ) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase ) ;
4 ) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate
(stock and mutual fund losses ) ;
5 ) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6 ) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law, not the President.
He has to work with what's handed to him.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:15 PM
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1. Well, all you need to do is show the model from when Clinton left office
and where its gone today.. oh, and add in a few things like the economy is f-ing collapsing you dipshit..
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:20 PM
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8. Posted in #7
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:35 PM
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16. Thanks, I didn't take the time to look it up for them..
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:53 PM
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19. It was a great idea!
:thumbsup:
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:17 PM
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25. thanks n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:15 PM
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2. And he can veto what's handed to him
Of course they left that part out.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:15 PM
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3. Bwaaa ha ha ha ha
Republicon homelanders trying to avoid responsibility for their own messes.

As usual.

Pathetic.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:15 PM
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4. Remind your RW friend how much the war is costing us
I will admit that we didnt get a prize with "impeachment is off the table" Pelosi though.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:23 PM
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10. I agree.
I'm just afraid that this whole situation is going to cause a lot of friendships to be bruised, if not broken. I try not to take offense, but it is getting so distorted and ugly, I'm afraid I'll bite my tongue off before it's all said and done.

My argument is that even with a majority, the Repugs are blocking everything they can either thru veto, not being able to reach a majority or blocking the acquisition of the truth thru executive privilege or classified information. If Congress had been given the people and documents they subpoenaed, all hell would have broken lose. Right?
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:18 PM
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5. *lol* That would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetically sad...
pure projection; typical rePiglican bullshit. Blame others for your own failings.

Whatever happened to "jawbonin' OPEC for lower oil prices" as Chimpy once stated he'd do if gas prices got high...
I suppose the jawbonin' of an ass wouldn't do much good anyway...
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:20 PM
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6. In November of 2000, gas was about $1.50/gallon. Also, we had a surplus,
something Chimpy's never had.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:20 PM
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7. With credit to Ozymandius
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 03:23 PM by Yael
AT THE CLOSING BELL WHEN BUSH TOOK OFFICE on January 22, 2001

Dow -- 10,578.24
Nasdaq -- 2,757.91
S&P 500 -- 1,342.90
Oil -- $27.69/bbl
Gold -- $266.70/oz.

AT THE CLOSING BELL on April 11, 2008

Dow -- 12,325.42
Nasdaq -- 2,290.24
S&P 500 -- 1,332.83
Oil -- $110.14/bbl
Gold -- 924.90/oz.

Booyah.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:45 PM
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18. Thanks! I am including this chart in my reply.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:22 PM
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9. oh, I don't know....
but how many of the bills sent up to their dumb-ass president has he signed? Seems to me, everything they have done in the name of change has been vetoed right down. Funny how their dumb-ass president has spent his whole time in office taking power away from Congress, yet it is their fault for the shape we are in? I would tell your friend to get his (or her) facts straight...right before I told him to go fuck himself. (or herself)
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:24 PM
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11. Lets take these "points" one by one-gas was 99 cents a gallon under a Dem as President
There were multiple predictions of gasoline prices expanding way before a democratic congress took office-here are a few articles

CNN By Manav Tanneeru
CNN
Thursday, August 24, 2006;

) -- An interconnected set of domestic and international factors have pushed gas prices steadily higher over the past few years, and an almost unquenchable global demand for energy may keep them there for at least the short term, industry observers say.

The average price for self-service regular was hovering near $3 a gallon as the summer of 2006 got under way, according to a national survey of gas prices.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/07/03/oil.price.explainer/index.html


Gasoline prices going up, up, up
Experts predict $3 per gallon soon -- grim outlook through 2006

David R. Baker, Chronicle Staff Writer

Friday, April 8, 2005

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/08/MNGLFC57T41.DTL

Lets look at Shrub's knowledge of the problem and his consistent failure to follow through with his boast at lower gas prices

Bush In 2000: Bush Blamed Clinton Administration For High Gas Prices; Promised "Immediate Relief" By Using His "Capital" With Saudis And Kuwaitis. "Campaigning for president in a state particularly hard-hit by high gasoline prices, Texas Gov. George W. Bush on Tuesday blamed the nation's predicament on the Clinton administration, which he said is operating without an energy policy. "This is an administration that is hoping the issue goes away,' Bush said. ... 'The vice president seems to forget who's been in office for seven years,' Bush said. 'This is an administration that has been in charge, and the price of gasoline has risen steadily since they've been in office.' Asked what he would do as president to address the price at the pump, Bush said he would confer with oil-producing allies and ask them to pump more crude. 'I would use the capital my administration will earn with the Kuwaitis or the Saudis, to convince them to open up the spigot,' Bush said. 'That's where we will get immediate relief.'"

It takes some time to explain to repugs the facts but that is because they are genetically inferior and lack the "critical reasoning" bone
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:25 PM
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12. Another lobotomized gorilla.


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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:31 PM
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13. Tell him to quit whining and grab hold of his own bootstraps
and stark yanking. He needs to take personal responsibility and not count on the government to be his mommy doling out allowances to the lazy children.

It should hit all his core beliefs. :eyes:
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:31 PM
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14. What is it with these RW zealots??!
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 03:31 PM by Kajsa
My brother did the same thing to me, until I finally put my foot
down this week and said 'Enough!"

He feels he " has a right" to send me this inflammatory crap.
I think it's intrusive and offensive and NO! he doesn't have a right
to bombard me with this.

We don't do this to them!

What in the hell is wrong with these people?!?

Right now, it's the source of a LOT of pain in my family.

:-(
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:43 PM
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17. It is causing a tremendous strain on several of us in an unrelated group.
We had agreed not to talk politics or religion, but some of us email each other privately. I never send them this crap, but they are bombarding several of us, especially in the last week or so. I believe they are so terrified Obama is going to win the nom, they can't see straight.

I have flat out told one I will never vote for McCain, so don't push him on me and that I will never vote Republican again, although my family was predominately Republican in the old days....also as the old party, not this awful mass of whiners we have today.

These are good people, beyond politics. They profess to be so religious, but their actions say otherwise. I'm in a quandry about how to handle it, as I know they are so deeply ingrained in the Republican party, they can never be swayed or convinced they are wrong.

How did we get to this messy, awful point?
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:22 PM
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24. I don't know, Frustratedlady.

I'm up against the same inpenetrable wall
with my brother.

Otherwise, he's a pretty decent guy and yes,
he does have a heart- it's just in a very weird
place right now.

I hope it calms down after November.

:-(
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:31 PM
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15. When Clinton left office
in Jan 2001, unemployment was 4.2%. It was 5.9% "a little over a year" later, and got as high as 6.3 in 2003. I'm sure your friend would like to know this.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:01 PM
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20. Thanks! I may have lost a friend, but not my mind.
Maybe it will wake them up, as I'm sure they share our retorts.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:08 PM
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21. How in the F...
do you relate that to a democratic congress?

It's human nature I quess - the human thing to do when DROWNING - fling your arms
about and try to grab on to something to survive.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:11 PM
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22. Wow
We have one of these for 2000 to 2008 right?

With the last line being...remember its the asshat of a President who can declare war while cutting taxes thus running up a huge deficit that makes your dollar worthless.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:12 PM
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23. We do?
Where?
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