Clinton Supporters: Does It Bother You *At All* That Clinton's Message Is So Well Synched...

[BlooInBloo]

... with McCain's and the republicans'? If not, *shouldn't* it?

[Forkboy]

1. My guess is some of them are proud of it.

There's some real messed up people on both sides. :shrug:

[Fredda Weinberg]

2. The process is unfolding as it should n/t

[quakerboy]

14. Wow.

I normaly don't agree with you, but this takes the cake. Hillary and McCain being best message buddies is "as it should"?

[JackORoses]

27. you mean Hillary revealing herself as a McCain operative was to be expected?

[SunsetDreams]

3. almost simultaneously too.

Charlie Black and Mark Penn, indeed are in cahoots.

[MoonRiver]

4. Are you willing to admit Obama is responsible for the words he utters?

This is all about HIM,you know. Of course, political opponents, whether primary or general, will use stupid things their opponent says against him. DUH.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

5. McCain/Clinton '08

[saracat]

6. Does it bother you at all that Barack is so well syched with the GOP judical nominations

and is so well syched with pro-corporate votes against working people, while "pretending" to be for the working class? Shouldn't that bother yo u? Or maybe, like Obama, you think the average person shouldn't have the right to sue corporat ions and that everyone shouldn't be covered by universal healthcare? Gimme a break.

[BlooInBloo]

9. Ugh. Too dim to do anything but copy other people's snark. "I'm rubber you're glue!" lololol

[saracat]

21. Too dim to have any crtical thinking ability?

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[saracat]

26. I have never denied that Sen. Clinton was not my first choice. I have never denied being a fan of

Sen. Kerry.( Though that may now be tempered by some of his current comments) None of my posts in that thread have approached the viciousness displayed by many Obama supporters. I disagreed then and disagree now with some of Sen. Clinton's positions.My disagreement with Sen. Clinton does not make Sen. Obama qualified to be president.We are down to two candidates. I support the more qualified of the two.I make no apologies for any statements I have made.
Unlike supporters of some candidates, I am aware of the faults of politicians. I do not imagine they walk on water. I also retain the right to change my mind and admit when I have been wrong.This apparently is not an ability some on DU retain.

[JackORoses]

28. so you are Pro McCain now?

John Edwards would be damned disappointed in you.

[saracat]

31. So not approving of Obama is pro McCain to you? I don't see Edwards endorsing Obama

at the moment either and Elizabeth states Hillary has the best "health plan' and barack doesn't have a universal health plan. I guess John would be disppointed in Elizabeth as well?

[JackORoses]

32. you don't see Edwards saying McCain is more qualified than obama either, do you?

at this point, Obama is the Nominee.

Why attack him and weaken our chances in November other than spitefulness?

[saracat]

34. Same old canard. She didn't say more qualified. She said more experienced. Again, I think the both

the repugs and the Dems know that already. Hillary is 60 and Mccain is 70 + .Of course they are more "experienced". They are older than Barack. Amazing how some think that and the fact that both have served in federal government longer is a "secret".And Obama is NOT the nominee. You are as obnoxious as some of the Hillary supporters were with the inevitability meme.BTW, Barack has done more than enough on his won to "weaken his chances of winning in November". He can't blame anyone else but himself if he does get the nomination and loses.

[DemGa]

7. Word travels fast around these here internets --- NT

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. The Republican Committee is sending letters to Democratic Super Delegates

NRCC Continues to Hammer Democratic Congressmen with Obama Remarks

April 12, 2008 1:00 PM

Focusing this time on Rep. Jason Altmire, D-Pa., the National Republican Congressional Committee is trying to damn local Democrats with the comments about small towns made by Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

"Jason Altmire Should Stop Flirting With Obama Campaign," says an NRCC news release sent to local media in the Keystone State. "Time for Superdelegate to Say Who He Supports."

NRCC Communications Director Karen Hanretty then says, “Congressman Jason Altmire, a superdelegate who’s been flirting with Barack Obama’s presidential campaign and who has received $10,000 from Obama's Hope Fund PAC, should denounce Sen. Obama’s statement that Pennsylvania voters are ‘bitter’ and ‘cling to guns or religion’ because they ‘can’t count on Washington.’

“Americans don’t want liberal politicians like Barack Obama who believe Washington is a substitute for faith, personal responsibility and belief that the Constitution guarantees our freedoms. It’s time for Congressman Altmire to make a choice. He can choose to stand up for the dignity of Pennsylvanians and their deeply held beliefs by rejecting the elitist rhetoric of Barack Obama, or he can continue to flirt with the Obama campaign in the hopes of getting his picture in the paper.”


The NRCC says it's going to send out similar news releases about Democratic Reps. Nancy Boyda and Dennis Moore of Kansas, Bruce Braley of Iowa, Joe Courtney of Connecticut, Lincoln Davis of Tennessee, Joe Donnelly, Baron Hill and Brad Ellsworth of Indiana, Gabrielle Giffords and Harry Mitchell of Arizona, Ron Klein of Florida, Nick Lampson and Ciro Rodriguez of Texas, Rick Larsen of Washington, Tim Mahoney of Florida, Jim Marshall of Georgia, Jim Matheson of Utah, Jerry McNerney of California, John Salazar of Colorado, Heath Shuler of North Carolina, Zack Space and Charlie Wilson of Ohio, Bart Stupak of Michigan, and John Yarmuth of Kentucky.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/nrcc-continues.html

[BlooInBloo]

10. Heh - Establishment political cartel collusion, basically.

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. Damn right and on the same day!! Penn had lunch with Karen Hughes

Just this week!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5456384&mesg_id=5456384

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. I'm nominating this thread because of what was revealed

N/t

[Triana]

13. YES. That's another thing about the 'bitter' flap that caused me to flip to...

...OBAMA.

[Auntie Bush]

15. For Pete's sake! Clinton has always had her message and don't

you REALIZE McCain is coping her...what else do the Rethugs have to run on?
Why can't Obamites be rational as I frankly don't want an irrational president. I want one with some common sense. How dare you say Clinton and McCain are in cahoots. They just both want to win this election...it's called politics. You are called bias. IMHO

[BlooInBloo]

16. I guess we'll put you down for "it doesn't bother you".

[Auntie Bush]

18. Chalk me up!

[BearSquirrel2]

17. The "Heroin of Tusla" ...

The Vietnam POW did not criticize the "Heroin of Tusla" after her trumped up bald faced lies. But he's willing to go after Obama for a statement that could be contorted into something negative. Is this McCain tipping his hat as to who he would like to face in the fall?

[Tom Rinaldo]

19. Not on Iraq it isn't. Not on mortgage relief or health care it isn't.

Hasn't it become apparent to you that political campaigns are not confined to dueling over issues? What both McCain and Clinton have in common literally is an adversary who wants to defeat both of them, just like Obama wants to defeat both of them as well. Obama's campaign was not shy to pounce on inaccuracies Clinton relayed in some stories that she told. They were willing to milk SniperGate or whatever it was and if McCain goes up against Clinton he'll try to attack her regarding her "honesty" also, a path trail blazed by Obama. When a candidate stumbles the talking points write themselves. They are virtually written in the sky for God's sake they become that obvious.

[BlooInBloo]

20. New campaign slogan: Clinton doesn't agree with McCain on *everything*, just that...

... other Democrats are bad!

Wonderful.

[EFerrari]

22. They did the same thing to Howard Dean.

The Republicans and their slower twins, the DLC.

[Mobius]

23. Well I support Obama but

this guilt by association is just silly.
They both know that Obama is the main competition and will do anything to take him down. That is the only thing that is synched.

[bigtree]

24. so is Obama's when he attacks the Clintons

so, by your standard, it's Obama's fault when republicans piggyback on his and his campaign's charges and attack Hillary Clinton.

I love the myopia from supporters here. Everything against their candidate is some sort of unacceptable outrage, until they practice the same tactic against their rival. Then they say it's justified, because someone started first. I'm always surprised to see someone actually accuse the other side of unfair attacks and expect to be take seriously outside of their own pack of supporters.

[TLM]

30. Quote... link???

"it's Obama's fault when republicans piggyback on his and his campaign's charges and attack Hillary Clinton."

[TLM]

29. Why should it....

McCain is their second choice after Hillary.

[Bensthename]

33. McCain/Clinton '08.. Bringing more Sex, Lies, and War back to the White House

[golddigger]

35. Obama/Hagel '08...bringing consevative values back to the WH.

[Bake]

37. HAGEL???

Picking a Puke for VP will be the last straw for me and a lot of the Dem base. The LAST straw. If Obama does that, then he has no desire to actually WIN the election. If he does, I'll just vote in the down-ticket races, and write in Al Gore (which isn't all that bad an idea anyway).

Bake

[Two Americas]

36. what bothers me

I am not a Clinton supporter, and what bothers me is the attempts to connect everything Clinton says to McCain and the Republicans, on the thinnest of evidence.

Many of the anti-Clinton talking points used by Obama supporters are no less similar to rw talking points.