What did Obama say that was offensive?

[Clintonista2]

Let's give Obama supporters a little pop quiz, since they seem to be incapable of understanding what their messiah said that was so offensive.

[thunder rising]

1. Ahhh the cacklers minions are out and about.

[avrdream]

2. Fortunately Barry lost my vote all by himself.

Otherwise, supporters like you would probably have pushed me over.

[flor de jasmim]

3. What? No chance for saying it wasn't offensive?

[TragedyandHope]

4. People are offended that the MSM is telling them what to think

Plenty of voters think for themselves and see through the spin. They understand the concept of divisive wedge issues used to distract from bigger systemic problems (exactly like this "controversy"). It's the height of condescension when the other two candidates respond with the exact tactics he is exposing and think the voters are too dumb to notice.

[Mobius]

5. I am incapable of believing bullshit

and spin put on out of context and extremely edited "statements" from Obama.

[dkf]

6. This post has 83 views and 5 votes.

I think most people are saying "none of the above"

[Mobius]

8. LOL

I am waiting for the rebuttal poll.

[Mobius]

7. Messiah is also offensive.

He has no connection to religion for me, as I believe in the separation of church and state.
I hope you enjoy your little 15 minutes of DU fame.

[Clintonista2]

9. Waah!

Your sig picture denigrating clark is offensive to me, too. I would ask you to please change/remove it.

[Mobius]

12. You appear to be the butthurt one

with this whole whiny post/poll
"Look at me, Look at me! I am going to make a 2 choice poll and see how many people I can piss off! He he I am so clever!"

[Mobius]

13. You edited what you said LOL.

I like Clark's hot bod, get used to it.

[Clintonista2]

14. I edited in the clark part 1 minute BEFORE you responded, check the times

Kthx!

[Mobius]

16. You are fun to rile

I am happy to have found a new chew toy. :)

[Clintonista2]

18. .

:)

[Mobius]

19. Man Nipples

I will make you see it again and louder MAN NIPPLES.

[Mobius]

15. Also

Why do you find a man's uncovered upper torso denigrating?
Seems like someone has issues.

[TLM]

10. Are bitter at government and politics.... why do you keep leaving that part out?

Wedge issue voters cling to wedge issues like god, guns, gays, flag, immigration etc. and do so because they are bitter towards government and politics.

Why are the haters trying so hard to push the lie that he was talking about all rural people who own a gun or go to church?

Read the transcript... it makes it very clear what he's talking about. So I can only assume you are being intentionally dishonest.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

Full transcript:

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people feel most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...I think they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.


Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter).

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is -- so, we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- close tax loopholes, roll back, you know, the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama's gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we're gonna provide health care for every American. So we'll go down a series of talking points.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.

[Skidmore]

11. The most offensive thing he said was that

the people in positions of power whose decisions affect the lives of you and me do so without regard for the well-being of all. The remark is more offensive to the political establishment...hence the screaming and gnashing of teeth by those who will only be dragged away from moneyed interest kicking and screaming and clawing all the way. I'm certain that is difficult for cronies and hangers-on to grasp.

[Royal Oak Rog]

17. People are most offended by dumb polls

that give no objective choice!

[Clintonista2]

20. The poll is asking what you percieve other people are offended by

Not what you personally are offended by. I understand that Obama supporters are not offended by anything that he says, and they seem to misinterpret why people are offended by his statement.

[last_texas_dem]

21. I'm sure that people looking to be offended

are equally offended by both assertions. I'm not offended by either assertion because I think it's clear to anyone not looking to be offended that there is truth to both statements.

[AllentownJake]

22. Can we add

People aren't really upset. This is fake outrage by people who didn't like Obama to begin with?

[BigBearJohn]

24. Yep. About as fake as the outrage by people over Hillary's sniper comments

Hillary could have done NOTHING
and people here would still be
outraged over her. Face it,
you simply don't like her.
Stop trying to find excuses.
Just admit it.

[AllentownJake]

26. Yep

I hate her so much I almost gave her money in September. I ended up with Obama because I liked what he was saying slightly more.

Everyday I realize the right choice I made. I'm so glad I'm not in your camp.

[FrenchieCat]

23. I think ya'll are nuts!

Sen. Obama was simply explaining why the financially hard pressed often time vote on their wedge issues (and yes, that would be God, Guns, and Gays....doh!), instead of their best own economic interest. Barack, a candidate for President, may not have stated his thoughts in the most artful way possible, which he conceded, but it does appear that a wave of epic proportion involving those who would want to be offended have quickly made their voices heard. Obvious to any political observer, The Clinton and McCain Campaigns and the so ever willing media started fanning the flames of objection of Barack Obama’s utterances sooner than immediate, in quick accord.

The serious concern that I have with this intensely focused over-the-top “outrage” on this subject, is that, in essence, Obama is being judged as not worthy enough to speak on the state of our politics as it specifically relates to that group of voters, even though, he just happens to be running for President. Perhaps he should have gotten permission first--But more disturbing still, is that perhaps Barack’s real problem in reference to talking honestly about this often time discussed political subject is that some do not see him as being of the “ilk” of those he is talking about. It is possible that some do not consider him to have enough in common with that part of America, although his mother hailed from rural Kansas, and hence, half of his gene pool is of that “ilk”? Possibly. Could it be that because Sen. Obama is ½ Black, he is not afforded the ability to comment on those he might lead under an Obama administration according to those who set the rules; the true elitists.

Ironically, White politicians, pollsters, pundits and anyone and his/her mother have been seen commenting on the Black vote, the Hispanic vote, the Gay vote, the educated vote, the youth vote, the male and female vote for the last 3 months, in a manner that has not always been preapproved. At such times, the voters are efficiently segmented, dissected and analyzed, and long and short hypothesis are clinically formulated as to why those folks might have voted as they did. In some rare instance, campaign pollsters are given microphones in order to announce to the entire world ahead of time who will be voting for whom.

It is sad to say, that it appears that when it comes to a Black man, no matter that he could claim some of the same roots as those of whom he speaks of, he is simply not allowed that luxury, in particular if his chosen words appear unartful on their face.

But the fact that some would go as far as to say that this “endangers” his candidacy, and attempt to call this (another media produced) “challenge” for Candidate Obama, I must call them on that notion.

These people making such claims are in fact, the elitist playing Molehill politics with our nation. In their eagerness to shape our public opinion on these elections, they are the most obnoctious as they bring us their pile-on high drama manufactured political episodes. They are the reason that Wedge politics is alive and well and striving in America today. They are the reasons that we, the people, have become the cynics that result in only 55% of Americans participating in our political process. Are the “Rural Small town Voters” really “code” for White moderate swing voters that no-one except for White people can discuss? Emoting political correctness does serve a noble purpose at times, but after all that has been said about race, sex and creed in this election, I find this to be happening glaringly ridiculous!

[Dawgs]

25. Why do I still click on Lirwin2 polls?

Bad Dawgs Bad.

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