Help me understand

[madaboutharry]

I so much want to be a good democrat. I am an Obama supporter, but I have always seen myself voting for whichever democratic candidate won the nomination. I have soured so deeply on Sen. Clinton, I really can't find words to describe my opinion of her. Now, with this "bitter" nonsense and how she is trying to play Sen. Obama as "the elitist" when she is the one with 109 million dollars, I feel more negatively towards her than ever. What the hell is going on in her campaign? Handing out stickers with "We're not bitter" printed on them reminds me of the purple bandaids handed out at the republican convention in 2004. I just can't bear to look anymore. I honestly don't know how I will vote for her if she is the nominee. I don't know if I could do it.

[wndycty]

1. I'm sure she had that discussion with her new friends at the local tavern last night

Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., tosts with a shot of Crown Royal with left, Bronko's owner Nick Tarailo, second from right, and Ed Hall, right as she stops at the bar during a campaign stop at Bronko's restaurant in Crown Point, Ind., on Saturday, April 12, 2008.
(AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080413/480/3e9a1966cffc48b3a1c681135733e1d5/



Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., raises her mug of beer in a toast with Hammond, Ind., Mayor Tom McDermott, left, as she stops at the bar during a campaign stop at Bronko's restaurant in Crown Point, Ind., Saturday, April 12, 2008. Ed and Patty Hall are seated right.
(AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080413/480/655d9a6a645c453eb8b15dfea67d1c5e/

[MonkeyFunk]

2. great pics!

I'd love to do a shot and a beer with her.

[wndycty]

5. Yeah we know that is how Hillary normally unwinds. . .LOL

:kick:

[MonkeyFunk]

8. well

you know, not every bar has the blood of virgins on tap.

[shaniqua6392]

6. Excellent pics!

Thanks for posting them. She looks like she is having a blast and I would have liked to have been there.

[wndycty]

7. Yeah she looks very authenic

LOL

[shaniqua6392]

13. I thought she looked great.

She looked like she was having a good time. You mean you can not even admit that the woman can have a little fun on the campaign trail?

[Vinca]

22. It's only a matter of time before she starts chewing tobacco with them.

Note to Hill: wear a brown pant suit.

[Raven]

3. I've been feeling the same way lately. I've vowed to vote for

the Democratic nominee no matter what but it is getting harder to think about pulling the level for Senator Clinton. However, if she is the nominee, she is definately going to look like a better choice than John McCain...at least that's what I'm hoping.

[mwb970]

4. Everything she does seems Republican now.

I share your concern. If Hillary is nominated I will vote for her over McSame (duh), but what a wasted opportunity that would be! I was a huge fan of both Clintons for years, until this campaign. Now I wish they would BOTH. JUST. GO. AWAY.

The "bitter" nonsense may finally lose it for her. I hope so. Enough of this!

[Skinner]

9. This really isn't that complicated.

Voting for either Democrat in the GE is a no-brainer. Here's just one issue, which IMHO, should be more than enough to justify a vote for Clinton: Do you want the US to get out of Iraq, or do you want to stay there for 100 years?

What you need to keep in mind about all of this primary campaign back-and-forth is this: It's not personal. In my opinion, it's not even serious. It's just politics. This is how the game is played. Your opponent hands you an opening, and you run with it. And let's be clear, Senator Obama made a big gaffe and handed Senator Clinton an opening. She's trying to win the nomination -- it's that simple.

[AllentownJake]

10. SCOTUS

She won't invade Iran (at least I'm pretty sure she wouldn't) and there are a couple of justices with health problems that are long in the tooth that aren't going to make it another 4 years. She'll appoint liberal justices.

Other than that yeah I'm disgusted by her too however there are bigger things in play than my disgust for Senator Clinton's tactics.

[madaboutharry]

14. I know, you and Skinner

are both right. It is about the war and the Supreme Court. McCain would be a disaster. I intellectually understand that. It is my emotions that are getting in the way. I am just disappointed, that is all.

[AllentownJake]

15. Find a congress person or Senate candidate

To back and put your energy there, don't lose hope for 2008 in other areas. its what I plan to do. Than just do your duty on election day than take a long hot shower afterwards :-)

[TexasLady]

11. yeah, the stickers...

stickers? I don't understand that logic either.

[Uben]

12. Being a good democrat comes second.....

......being a good American comes first. Don't beleve all you hear, words are easy to say, but much harder to back up. As an Obama supporter, you have taken on a candidate that promises hope and change, but, don't they all? I hear Obama's words, but have seen absolutely nothing in the way of actions that support this stance. I will vote for him is he is nominated, but I have no confidence that he will do much. Real change comes in the form of building coalitions and getting enough votes to get your bills passed. I firmly believe Clinton has the edge in this respect. That is why she gets my vote. Real change means more than just changing which party is occupying the whitehouse. It requires changing the way congress thinks. If you think Obama is the one who can bring this about, then he deserves your vote. I think he will find bringing about change takes more than "just words".

[AllentownJake]

16. Why

Do most of her colleagues reject him for her? 17 senators vs 12. Why do they like him better?

[Bensthename]

18. exactly, and if you can believe this, GOP hates Clintion more then most dems. Amazing but true.

[Uben]

19. I can only guess.....

...that they see him as the one most likely to allow them to keep the staus quo. If the majority of the senators wanted real change, they have the power to do it. It's usually the minorities that represent real change because they are the ones not making it from the status quo.

[AllentownJake]

20. Sorry

I don't buy that...first she's going to build a coaltion and next they don't like her because she represents change. How the hell do you build a coalition if they don't like you?

They know her is what I be thinking and they know Obama and they trust him more is what I think.

[Uben]

21. According to your figures....

.....only 17 reject her. That leaves 83 prospective senators to build coalitions with, more than enough to enact change. It's not so much about the numbers as it is with the ability to actually bring it about. Don't kid yourself, the dems are not going to have a 2/3 majority of congress. Bringing about change means reaching across the aisle and bringing in conservatives to help out. Clinton is, IMO. more conservative than Obama, and stands a much better chance of appealing to republicans than Obama. Neither of them are uber-liberals, which makes it easier for me to vote for either. I just feel Clinton gives us the best hope of actually getting things done. You have your opinion, I have mine. Nothing you say will sway me, and I am sure nothing I say will sway you, so why waste time arguing?

[Bensthename]

17. McClinton is an embarrassment to the dem party.. She wants Obama to lose since she has lost.