Hilliary has damaged the progressive cause and the Democratic Party.

[smiley_glad_hands]

Since the passing of civil rights legislation and especially apparent since the reagan years, repugs have used cultural issues like guns, gays, race, immigration and gender to bash the progressive movement and to divide the middle and working class. This campaign has been very successful for republicans and the true elitists in this country. It has produced the reality and circumstances that currently exists in our nation.

Fact: The middle and working class have been voting on cultural issues at the expense of economic issues. The politics of division has given them weaker unions, lower wages, loss of pensions, lack of medical insurance and the complete loss of manufacturing jobs that employed people in there communities for generations.

Hilliary has justified the destruction the conservative movement has been doing to the progressive movement, the Democratic party, and our Nation by not seeing the truth in Obama's statements. She has shown that she is no friend to progressives or our cause when she empowers the conservative movement this way.

To top it all off with a cherry, she makes her statements in stride with mcsame. I am beginning to think she has more in common with him than her (edit: more) progressive counterpart.

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[leftofcool]

1. Obama sticks foot in mouth.........Hillary to blame

Next.

[smiley_glad_hands]

2. He spoke the truth.

If you can't see that, then you are out of touch and not a progressive.

[Uzybone]

11. The why does he say

that he "misspoke"? If he spoke the truth why does Obama not defend it?

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. It was an article of Marxist faith that religion is the opium of the masses

but that is not established as a progressive truth. Do I think Obama is asserting that rural Americans turn to God as a crutch to deal with their bitterness and frustration? No. Do I think his poor choice of words left himself wide open to attacks over that interpretation? Yes.

Therefor in that among other ways Obama did stick his foot in his mouth even if he was attempting to speak to larger truths.

[smiley_glad_hands]

24. Instead of recognising the truth in his statements--

Hilliary has justified the conservative movement. Who said anything about communists? McCarthy used to bring up communism, he used it to bash the progressive movement and democrats. Religion? You know all the progressives are really just a bunch of god hating, gun hating, gay loving, minority loving, latte drinking pinko commie liberals? We want all the bibles to burn in a bonfire so we can dance nude in the moonlight and sing coombya(sp?) Right?

[Tom Rinaldo]

You misrepresented what Obama said

It wasn't the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth that he spoke. There was some pretty sloppy languuage in his comments that landed him in some hot water. He can't do proper damage control over that aspect of his comments without at least understanding and addressing why they were subject to misinterpretation.

[smiley_glad_hands]

27. It is you who is misrepresenting what Obama said and what he meant.

If you and Hilliary don't get it, then you are part of the problem and not the solution. Republican framing techniques only empower the conservative agenda. Still don't get it do you?

[Tom Rinaldo]

28. I don't believe that what he meant and what he said implied the same things

I have no real problem with what I think he meant to say.

[truebrit71]

3. Except for the fact that he was right....

...and the $109 million dollar pin-up for the blue collar worker is "in touch" and busy huntin' and prayin'....

:eyes:

[gaiilonfong]

7. the Taylor Marshites have their marching orders for the day

except no one cares what they say or do anymore...
HILLARY STINKS nuff'said

[grasswire]

4. oh stop it

That's ridiculous. It sounds like the stuff the freepers used to say about Kerry.

[smiley_glad_hands]

5. Some context would help. eom

[BlueManDude]

22. Your post makes no sense. In fact it's HRC who is regurgitating RW talking points.

...and she has been for months.

[kentuck]

6. Many think Hillary will return us to the golden days of Bill Clinton...

It ain't gonna happen. They are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

[MichiganVote]

8. Cuz' Democrats before Hillary Clinton's run have never done anything to damage this political party?

Sorry, I can buy a lot of things about the Clintons but this one just doesn't wash. Besides SOME of the M. Class have voted on cultural issues but not all. Since HC has been prochoice forever I don't know how that argument can apply.

[mudesi]

12. I didn't read that in the OP

Did you? There are plenty of other DINOs besides Hillary Clinton. But she's the one running for president right now.

[MichiganVote]

17. You know, don't even bother.....

[Zodiak]

20. Those DINOs are DLC and blue dogs

They belong to organizations that make it easier to find who the DINOs are.

DINO is too generic a term, and it identifies no one.

Let's call them what they are....DLC and blue dogs, and then paint a big electoral target on their face for elimination.

This campaign proves what many of us have suspected for so long....half of the Democrats do not work for us nor do they ever intend to.

Hillary is going Leiberman on us.....and if DUers put on their memory caps, Leiberman was DLC, too.

[BlueManDude]

23. So that justifies her praise of McCain and her spouting GOP talking points?

[MichiganVote]

25. What are you referring to as a justification for praise of McCain and

what GOP talking points are you referring to.

Or just don't bother. See the trouble is, many on DU seem to have a running conversation that somehow people are supposed to be tuned into 24/7. If that is the case with you, don't bother responding as I probably won't read what you have to say.

If that makes me a commie no-good know nothing anti - whatever, so be it.

[mudesi]

9. She is a DINO

She has been acting exactly like a Republican candidate for the past 2 months. It's obvious and it's sickening.

[sellitman]

10. Both Obama & Hillary are Moderates.

Trying to paint either of them Liberal or Progressive is a laugh. The only Liberal running was Kucinich. Hillary is the least Progressive of the whole Democratic field though. By far and away.

[smiley_glad_hands]

31. I will agree with that.

Who is selling out the progressive cause and enabling republican frames though? Not Obama.

[NJmaverick]

14. Hey Hillary would destroy the Country if she thought it would

give her what she wants.

[bigtree]

15. Obama's not a progressive.

And his campaign seems to have no regard at all for the views of the less than half of the voters between these two candidates who've voted for Hillary Clinton.

And, there have been several attacks from the Obama campaign which have either piggybacked on republican, right-wing campaigns, or provided their own platform fro republican attacks on Hillary Clinton. That isn't new. And the suggestion that the Clinton camp is the sole beneficiary of any republican appropriation of these intra-party squabbles assumes that Obama's reputation and political viability is, somehow, more important than Clinton's. Or that, attacks on the New York Democrat are irrelevant to the health or image of the party and the issues which are distorted or dismissed in the wake of these petty political skirmishes.

[MichiganVote]

26. No he isn't. And I don't see that changing anytime soon.

[Bensthename]

16. Hillary is dead to me. She is trying to kill our chances in Nov.

[MannyGoldstein]

18. I Beg To Differ

I think that she's helped things greatly. She's made Obama look fantastic - he's rising in the polls, she's sinking, and most folks have come to realize that The Clintons were merely sociopaths in sheep's clothing - now they are bereft of sheepskin.

[smiley_glad_hands]

19. I hope you are right. eom

[Armstead]

21. You hit the nail on the head

[cottonseed]

29. Every dollar Hillary spends now goes to helping Republicans.

I just wrote a post about this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5483018

I'm all for an honest race, but she's not only attacking the Democratic front runner, she's attacking the core principles of the Democratic party and progressive movement.

[mitchum]

30. Well, that runs in the family