Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Eureka Moment - old politics vs new pollitics

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:46 PM
Original message
Eureka Moment - old politics vs new pollitics
I think the following comment by Collegekid merits a replay:

I just had what was for me the Eureka moment. Here's the difference between the Old Politics and the New Politics, as personified in the first case by Hillary and in the second by Barack:

The old politics is all about the sham of oh-so-showy pretending that you do not understand and could not in a million years agree with any part of what your opponent is saying, that it's harmful, evil, ridiculous, reprehensible. This style is excerptable for sound-bite gotcha attacks. Perfect for Fox News news cycles.

The new politics is taking the chance to try to understand your opponent's discourse and responding with reason, clarification, and even admission that you can say your point better the second and third time you address the issue. Needs the long form, such as extensive re-viewing on YouTube, elsewhere.

The question is, do we want to walk around pretending we don't want to and do not have to try to understand what other people are saying, or can we move to new ways of discussing issues in news cycles?

Posted by Collegekid
April 12, 2008 12:05 PM
Originally at http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/hillary_hits_obamas_small_town.php#comments
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:00 PM
Response to Original message
1. Right! It's demonstrating that you have the Strength to encompass the complete truth,
the creative intelligence to make the (as nearly complete as possible) truth y/our own, and the honesty to talk and listen to ALL of us (not just about this or that sub-group to this or that other sub-group).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. One of Obama's great strengths is that he knows how to really listen to people
To the needs and desires behind the words
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. He has enough experience outside of the social class that he currently occupies to be able
to recognize THEIR spoken and un-spoken meanings (not just his, not just taking everything about others and turning it into something about himself, no matter how absurd. I loved his bowling; it showed he's not a pretender and not a hider; doesn't mind letting us know about the differences between us and him. This is reality).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:09 PM
Response to Original message
2. Agree.
We have 24 hour news and youtube, haven't we outgrown soundbites.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 10:34 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC