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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:29 PM
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How sad that Hillary's remaining campaign is based on HOPE-that Obama will "implode."
She doesn't have a positive message. All she and her campaign have is the "hope" (ironically) that Obama will look "unelectable" (with their help). She first hoped Wright would render him unelectable. When THAT didn't work, she jumped on the "bitter" thing, with her and her surrogates all saying the same thing-that Obama's a good man, but that "we" can't "afford" to lose another election with someone who's "out of touch" with "hard-working, blue-collar workers," like Kerry and others were made out to be.

I heard her, Bayh, and Rendell saying the same thing nearly word for word. They all went on to say Obama will be painted by the REPUBS. (not by THEM, of course) as an "out-of-touch elitist" and that will lose us the election. As if SHE won't be painted as so much worse-what she actually IS.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:31 PM
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1. We need to excuse Hillary
She's just being BITTER that she'll never be President now.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:37 PM
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3. True. And if you saw SNL last night you'd see even THEY now think Obama will be president
and Hillary doesn't like the idea.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:43 PM
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7. I missed it. Is it on the interwebs yet?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:48 PM
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10. I can't find one. But I wrote a little about it last night:
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 02:52 PM by jenmito
SNL slamming (McCain and) Hillary-she's claiming she was against the war from the beginning...

(then stared into the camera for a while), then asked Petraeus if sniper fire can be so quiet as to not be captured on video, he said it's possible and she said no further questions. Then they had Robert Byrd speak, and finally Obama, saying they should let him ask questions since he's going to be the next president of the U.S. Petraeus said he read both his books several times (because he's going to be the next president) and loved them both, while he didn't like Hillary's and McCain's books. Hillary's because it was long, boring, and filled with lies, like claiming she was the inspiration for the song "My Sharona" and that she was the first astronaut. Obama said he was against the war from the start, and Petraeus said he knows-that's why he's going to vote for him, and Hillary chimed in again that SHE was against the war from the start, too, and McCain and Levin looked at her and said she was not. I think they made fun of all 3 of them.

(I didn't say much about McCain-but I'll say he kept asking leading questions about how much progress was made in Iraq, and he kept getting shot down by Petraeus.)
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:40 PM
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25. Mebbe on the nbc site. I think they assholed out and don't allow the vids anywhere else.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:18 PM
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29. When I checked, they had 6 vids up, none of the political stuff
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:32 PM
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2. It's the old "gotchya" politics - lying in wait and salivating
over the next "mistake".

It all took the heat off of her Bosnia-gate though, didn't it? It will be something new this week though. Same old, same old crap.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:38 PM
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5. It sure did. Perfect timing, huh?!
Coincidence?
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:37 PM
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4. If Hillary really wants to see someone who is bitter upclose and personal
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 02:39 PM by Arrowhead2k1
all she has to do is look in a mirror. She's so transparently bitter that a decent guy like Obama would swoop in and take away the nomination that she felt she was entitled too. She truly is a pathetic pandering phony. I'm just glad that a man like Obama came along and helped us realize this before she became too powerful.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:40 PM
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6. THAT'S the truth!
Yes-I, too, am so glad Obama came along!
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:43 PM
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8. I really am starting to hate the Clinton wing of the Party.
I may never be able to find common cause with any of them again.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:53 PM
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11. Same here...
and I was a big fan at one time.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:44 PM
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9. Hillary's campaign is about the saddest and most pathetic I've seen in my 50+ years. She's blew
a massive lead in name recognition, campaign funds, and the general expectation that she would be the Dem candidate.

And she did it all by herself. She's made a long string of bad decisions and they cost her.

She's become bad for the country, bad for the Democratic Party, and bad for herself. Three strikes, your out.

But failure has a silver lining. Perhaps after she's out of the race, she will do a personal inventory, a period of self examination that will lead her to personal growth and grace.

But then again, she probably doesn't have that in her. Some people never get it.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:55 PM
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12. I agree...
and someone predicted that Hillary will be Gov. of NY-that things are being worked on right now. I think it was on Chris Matthews' show this morning, during the "Tell me something I don't know" segment.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:19 PM
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17. I had read some articles about this
not long after Patterson was sworn in. Supposedly all these things were being put into place to give her the governorship of NY as a consolation prize once they set up the smear campaign against Patterson by using his revelations about himself (that he put out there to clear the air), against him. It is pathetic.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:58 PM
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13. The really sad thing is...
that Obama supporters, smug and secure in their belief that Obama will be the nominee, have to resort to inane posturing, juvenile attacks, and all with a lack of common decency one used to find among Democrats. They have, for all intents and purposes, dragged Obama's "message" through the slime of elitism, and they revel in it. Obama supporters have a hatred for HRC, and any connected with her, that there is no cure for. Even when they attempt to woo Clinton supporters for their votes in the GE, rest assured, that hatred will still be there. The Dem party is divided, and the responsibility for that divide will forever remain the legacy of Obamania. If Obama gets the nomination, I'll vote for him, but it won't be because I was taken in by someone who uses the front door to borrow a cup of sugar, then sneaks into my back yard and takes a shit. The majority of Obama supporters here at DU cannot, and should not, be trusted with the stewardship of their candidates support. Thanks.
quickesst
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:04 PM
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15. That's bull...
It's Hillary and her supporters who just KNEW that SHE was the inevitable nominee. She planned on "wrapping it up" on Feb. 5th-Super Tuesday. There's nothing elite about Obama and his supporters. Hillary is hated for very-well-deserved reasons.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:09 PM
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19. I feel very sorry for you. You sound very bitter. You sound as if you are blaming your bitterness on
anonymous posters on a message board.

That's an interesting concept.

I would appreciate you writing (and me reading) more about this, about how you became embittered because anonymous people post things that then make you bitter. Thanks!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:25 PM
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21. I feel the same way...
thanks for asking him/her about this! :hi:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:00 PM
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14. When the democrat in last place
begins to sound like the republican in attacking the first place democratic candidate, it is sad, indeed.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:08 PM
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16. It's not just her, the media all produce stories praying for the day that Obama is derailed. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:50 PM
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18. It sure LOOKS that way!
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:25 PM
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20. How sad of a thread.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:26 PM
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22. I agree. I wish I didn't have to start this thread but Hillary's campaign tactics called for it.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:33 PM
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23. Open your eyes.
If you think Saint Obama hasn't acted in a despicable manner, you need to get a clue.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:01 PM
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27. You mean winning more delegates, votes, and states? Yeah, that sure is
despicable of Obama.

:rofl:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:04 PM
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30. My eyes are WIDE open-unlike yours. Obama's not a saint but he's winning and he did it by running a
positive campaign.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:13 AM
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31. Positive campaign my ass. Obama is a damned hypocrite, as are most of his supporters.
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PseudoIntellect Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:39 PM
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24. The best she can muster right now is
accuse Obama of calling people bitter and hope it sinks in before PA.

95% of Democrats are upset with the Bush administration. I don't see how pointing that out is such a bad thing.

She seems to hate reality.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:42 PM
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26. And that was Obama's only hope last year. It's part of a camapign. But Hillary also has to
win over the voters so she gets enough delegates to compete at the convention.

I find her message to be very positive. She is talking about solutions for America.

Steve
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:05 PM
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28. She is a bitter DINO that sees her fantasies of power slipping away
what does she have to offer the American people? Another amoral truth challenged leader who will do and say anything to get what she wants? We already have that with georgie boy
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:21 AM
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32. SO? That's how Jim Webb won. It happens this is
politics. I for one figured this might happen because Obama has never had to defend himself directly. Your surrogates can't fight all your battles, and the media is not a friend to anyone. That is something Obama does not yet know.
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