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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:55 PM
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Clinton: 'Not relevant' last time I went to church, fired gun
Looks like she really walked into it this time...

April 13, 2008
Clinton: 'Not relevant' last time I went to church, fired gun
Posted: 05:00 PM ET
CNN

Watch a clip of Sen. Clinton's Sunday press conference.

SCRANTON, Pennsylvania (CNN) – After a weekend spent making direct appeals to gun owners and church goers, Hillary Clinton said Sunday a query about the last time she fired a gun or attended church services "is not a relevant question in this debate” over Barack Obama’s recent comments on small town Americans.

“We can answer that some other time,” Clinton said at a press conference held in a working class neighborhood here. “This is about what people feel is being said about them. I went to church on Easter. I mean, so?”

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/13/clinton-not-relevant-last-time-i-went-to-church-fired-gun/
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:56 PM
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1. So church isn't relevant? Same with 2nd Amendment rights? HOW ELITIST!
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 05:08 PM by anonymous171
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:57 PM
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2. the truth is not relevant in Hillary's mind
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:58 PM
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3. I haven't fired a gun in over twenty years.
Its not relevant to my support of the 2nd amendment.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:58 PM
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4. I couldn't believe they let her get away with that!
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:41 PM
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28. Hillary wants me to vote for her? Well, we can talk about that another time. Right now,
you'll have to excuse me while I step into the voting booth to vote for Obama...
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:58 PM
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5. I see. This is really about the last time Clinton went to church.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:59 PM
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6. HC has messed up big time re RKBA and BO is even more vulnerable on that issue because of his past
association with the Joyce Foundation and the Violence Policy Center (VPC).

Joyce funds VPC.

Would an anti-abortion group select a pro-abortion person for its president? NO!

Would an anti-handgun group select a pro-handgun person for its president? NO!
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:59 PM
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7. "We can answer that some other time." WHAT? What a stupid thing to say...lol.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:00 PM
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8. What a fucking Ho'llery
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:00 PM
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9. IS it relevant?
:shrug:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:10 PM
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16. It is when you make a point of stressing it in an earlier speech.
This wasn't some off-the-wall ambush. It was a question that directly related to speeches she's given in the last 2 days.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:03 PM
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10. So ??? Church isn't relevant???
Oh Hillary, do you want your phrase twisting dished right back in your face ???
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:03 PM
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11. It's a silly question and not relevant -- NT
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:05 PM
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12. It will be so refreshing when you're no longer relevant, Hillary
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:08 PM
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13. some other time...as in after you all get me in the WH
:rofl:

she's a pip, that Hillary:)

downright HILLarious
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:08 PM
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14. My god...she really doesn't believe there's a record of anything she's said or done, does she?
...or, she thinks the American people are abysmally stupid.

She talks about Obama "not owning up to" and "not explaining" his remarks, completely ignoring that she has failed to do the same for a half-dozen issues herself.

Then, she implies that she won Texas.

Finally, when questioned about her "I go to church" and "I've gone hunting" statements, she refuses to answer...saying that the question isn't relevant.

I know there are people who support this woman, but HOW???
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:15 PM
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20. And don't forget the piece about giving ammo to the repubs.
She's a piece of work.

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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:09 PM
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15. Which Easter?
Like, back in the last century when she and Bill were hot shit?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:11 PM
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17. Now watch this drive!
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:21 PM
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26. LOL
You've earned only the second time I've ever used that acronym, but it summed up Hillary's attitude so well
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:13 PM
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18. Good question!!
a query about the last time she fired a gun or attended church services :applause:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:15 PM
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19. "We can answer that some other time"
:rofl:

TRANSLATION: I gotta make up a new lie story once Mark Penn checks his damn phone messages so he can call me back and help me sort out the details!

(I can't believe she friggin' said what she said at that press conference. Let's see if the dumbass media call her on this and highlight her shilling for gun control back in 1999 and whether they will delve into her cult "church")
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:18 PM
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21. Listen up, Hill, YOU don't get to decide what is and is not relevant in
this debate. We, the people, get to make that decision. Got it?

You sicken me, Hillary!
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:51 PM
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29. She sounds a little testy ...... must have had a few to many last night. n/t
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:22 PM
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38. I know! A straight shot of Crown Royal? Very strong stuff - 40% alcohol
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 06:37 PM by Divernan
I once ordered a Kir Royale in a San Juan restaurant (that's 5 parts champagne and part Creme de Cassis - very refreshing). The waiter brought me a tumbler with some dark liquid over ice. I took a taste and spit it back in the glass. I said to my Sig. Other, god, I don't know what that is, but it sure is BITTER!

Turned out the waiter thought I had ordered a Crown Royal.
Guess it's an acquired taste - but I don't know any women who drink it.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:19 PM
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22. She's right, focus on more important issues
like the economy, the war, health care reform, etc.

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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:20 PM
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24. like bittergate? Did you start any threads today about the war, health care reform? Or just bitterga
te? :rofl: :rofl:

Pot, meet kettle.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:57 PM
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36. Oh, that's rich.
Yeah. More important issues like whether Obama wore a flag pin or a turban while his Reverend said something offensive.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:19 PM
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23. "We're still looking for an explanation from Senator Obama" -- that's good!
That's good news!

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:21 PM
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25. She keeps forgetting
Its not 1996. You don't get away with this shit anymore without the press asking you the gotcha question.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:56 PM
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34. As John Stewart said re: Bush
Don't they know we're taping this stuff?
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:23 PM
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27. What a hypocritical Bitch
stir it up, and then say it's not relevant in this debate
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:52 PM
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30. NOT RELEVANT?!?!
Are you fucking kidding me? Gore? Carter? Time for you to step up for us please.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:55 PM
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31. Au contraire, Your Majesty!
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:55 PM
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32. Leader of Million Mom March against guns channels Charlton Heston
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:55 PM
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33. Would that be the royal "we"?
What kind of person refers to herself in the plural?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:56 PM
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35. Right. I just want to get my cheap shot pandering sound bite in, and not be called on it.
"This is about trying to sink Obama's campaign with another fusillade of meaningless bullshit. Why are we talking about ME?" :shrug:
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:01 PM
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37. Wait
What is she going to say when they ask her about her stance on guns in NY state? :rofl: Wow the queen has stepped in it big time because I guarantee this is going to come back to haunt her in some shape or form. Someone is definitely going to call her on church not being relevant.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:47 PM
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40. Yeah, what happens when she runs for senate again...
Or maybe we have seen the last of her?
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:42 PM
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39. She's PROJECTING her flaw onto Obama!
One of the biggest complaint about this woman is how she has belittled another Democrat, while at the same time, boosting the Republican that is running for the same office. As she desperately tries to hang on, she makes it more and more easier for another Republican to be the next president. This has happened more than once, or even twice, that I am aware of.

What does she do in this question and answer session? She doesn't take ownership for her own tricks, but instead, projects that it is another Democrat - Obama, who denigrates the Democrats.

“We have been working very hard to make it clear that we have millions of Democrats who are church going and gun-owning,” she said. “And we are tired of having Republicans, or frankly our own Democrats, give any ammunition to Republicans because what happens then is Republicans take advantage of the situation.”


Damn, so many times I have said that Hillary and her people have easily given ammunition to the other side. And, here she is projecting. She has learned the Republican tricks well. Too bad she hasn't use those tricks, schemes and energy against the Bush* mal-administration's bullshit that led us into the quagmire that they put us all in.

This just pisses me off!
:grr:





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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:57 PM
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41. The clip is disgusting.
She is such a liar and a hypocrite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdQq7wh39gA

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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:37 PM
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42. Wow. What a gaffe!
It's always one step forward, two steps back with her.
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