Report from PA-Funny Story

[AllentownJake]

15-20 Hillary supporters showed up outside the Bethlehem office to protest Obama today. I wish I was making this up. Oh well 15-20 people who aren't knocking on doors or making calls. What's with the protest all of a sudden? What were they protesting us campaigning in the Lehigh Valley. These people make no sense to me. Also its insanely stupid. There are registered democrats who are volunteering to make sure we have a Democratic President. Not all but some of us might be interested in volunteering for Hillary if she somehow wins the nomination. Protesting our office is not the way to encourage us to vote for your candidate or help her if she becomes the nominee in November. Was this some sort of intimidation? All they managed to do was make our resolve stronger here. I'm sure this was not sanctioned by the Clinton campaign but come on show some intelligence people.

[TheDoorbellRang]

1. What exactly were they protesting?

More details, please.

[AllentownJake]

2. I heard it second hand

When I was at the Allentown office and they said it was the bitter comments.

[Drunken Irishman]

5. They were bitter.

;)

[Cha]

19. Right freakin' ON!

BITTER IRISH FOR OBAMA!

[Drunken Irishman]

31. I love you, zidzi!

You rock!

[Cha]

33. Backatcha!

BITTERSWEET BABIES FOR OBAMA!

[Hepburn]

59. Aaaaaaaaaaaaa......

...those pics are so sweet! Thanks for posting them! :hi:

[Cha]

66. I adore them and all the other

thousands of campaign trail pics that Alex Brendon has taken.



This isn't on the Trail per se but it shows Obama's inner kid. B-)

[Ian David]

32. Someone moved their cheese. Here's a photo of the Hillary protesters...

[grantcart]

3. did they bring their pots and pans?

[nichomachus]

24. I hear that Hillary

Looked at the pots and pans and asked "What are those things and what do people use them for?"

[azmouse]

4. Did they bring pots and pans?

gawd, those people are ridiculous.

[mythyc]

10. Jinx

3 and 4 owe each other a coke

[azmouse]

11. It's a case of Great Minds Think Alike!

:hi:

[sniffa]

12. 3 posts at once (same time stamp) said the same thing

:rofl:

[AllentownJake]

13. They are never going to live

Pot and Pan fun day down on here...

[dkf]

37. I missed the pots and pans thing.

What was that all about?

[AllentownJake]

39. Our friends at

Hillaryclintonforums.net organized a rally to demand the head of Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews at the Today show. During part of their planning they thought of bringing pots and pans to "make noise". They went to the Today show 25 people showed up from the pictures they took (they claimed 150) and the Today show or no one else covered it except the Obama supporters at DU mocking them.

[dkf]

49. Oh my. That is sad...

Thanks for filling me in!

And where the heck was I anyway?

[AllentownJake]

55. Friday

There were a thousand threads...

[GoneOffShore]

71. Did they bring a porta Potty?

:eyes:

[sniffa]

6. Were they wielding pots and pans?

We need pix!!!

And as post number 1 said, could you expand some more? :D

K&R

[AllentownJake]

8. I wish I was there

However I only heard the reports this morning at the Allentown office. I had exhausted my 3 post limits or I would have posted this earlier. Supposedly the signs said stuff about being bitter...showing up at our offices though wth?

[Adelante]

7. They're protesting Obama

They're protesting Obama

They're protesting Obama

OK, now I got it :)

[C_U_L8R]

9. Theirs isn't the most brilliantly run campaign.

They have a knack for turning every possible advantage into more delegates for Obama.

[Yael]

14. Politically. Tone. Deaf.

I hope it makes the news.

[AllentownJake]

15. Well

Seeing the office is next to one of the local newspapers...

I'm debating whether to call her campaign and give them a peace of my mind.

[Yael]

18. Oh please, let some bored reporter decide to write about this

15-20 people is more than they got in NYC on Friday.

[AllentownJake]

30. Checked the website

Nothing yet, but newspapers don't put stories on till they publish them in print right?

[Yael]

34. No clue. I don't get the paper.

[sniffa]

35. That's not true. 150 showed up for it

92.3% were just camera-shy.

[AllentownJake]

36. They were afraid

of retaliation from Rabid Obama supporters lol

[sniffa]

42. Why? They were weilding weapons.

:shrug:

[Yael]

43. Maybe the NYPD didn't build them a big enough pen?

:shrug:

[sniffa]

48. That is SO inhumane!

Has anyone notified PETA or the ASPCA?

:grr:

[Yael]

54. Clintonians don't do free range

They get their talking points and short leashes.

[Hepburn]

60. I love the lady in front who is picking her nose! n/t

[AllentownJake]

62. I like the terminator in the center

Obama must be for Skynet

[WolverineDG]

88. Maybe Agent Mike scared 'em off

See how he's glaring at the camera? :scared:

dg

[Cha]

16. They're like dick cheney protestors

outside of Al Gore's residence yellin' at him to get outta the dick's house..no class and they sound bitter.

[cooolandrew]

17. Good for you folks soldier on. I commend you for your service.*salutes*.

[Hutzpa]

20. Any footage about this?

like phone camera, video camera, voices and stuff,

if there is please post online pronto...

[progressoid]

21. Sounds like the Ron Paul type desperation.

[stillcool]

22. Democrats protesting Democrats...

they are mis-directing their bitterness.

[DearAbby]

23. Unfuckingbelievable

[depakid]

25. If it's true, look at it as good practice for the fall

If Obama gets the nomination, you can expect a lot more and a lot worse than this.

[tishaLA]

26. I wouldn't be shocked if they had

"Sore/Loserman" signs.

[1776Forever]

27. Who if anyone was Fowler working for and more interesting things....read this........

Who paid for Ms. Fowler to follow Obama and was/is she a HRC supporter? Mayhillian Rovian maybe????

Mayhill (writer of "bitter" comment) is also Junehill - wrote pro HRC comments in '07 & other ......

Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 06:28 AM by 1776Forever
interesting things:

http://junehill.blogspot.com /

Friday, July 13, 2007
Hillary Clinton, Wellesley Girl

Flopped out in the Rio Grande Valley, nursing a cold, I've been reading Carl Bernstein's new biography of Hillary Clinton, trying to get a better sense of a woman I might well vote for come November 2008.

And at the end of the page:

Obamatized!

* "'And when our idealism spills into that kind of naivete and an unwillingness to acknowledge history and the weight of other cultures, then we get ourselves into trouble.'" (interview with Larissa MacFarquhar, The New Yorker 5/7/07)
* "But over the long haul, I think we make a mistake when we fail to acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people, and join a serious debate about how to reconcile faith with our modern, pluralistic democracy." (Barack Obama, keynote address at the Call for Renewal Building a Covenant conference, June 28, 2006, entire text on the Sojourners magazine website)
* Threading the Niebuhrian Needle: "'So I asked, What do you take away from him ?' 'I take away,' Mr. Obama answered in a rush of words, 'the compelling idea that there's serious evil in the world, and hardship and pain. And we should be humble and modest in our belief we can eliminate those things. But we shouldn't use that as an excuse for cynicism and inaction. I take away... the sense we have to make these efforts knowing they are hard, and not swinging from naive idealism to bitter realism.'" (Thanks to David Brooks, NYT 4/26)

Whatever
Mullah Moments: our world through his eyes. Obamatized: I have to thank my husband for this one. When the day comes that I am no longer enamoured of Mr. O, I will put this list out to pasture.

.................

I found out about this from a Daily Kos blog -

Who the 'eff' is Mayhill Fowler????? (Leaked Obama's 'bitter' clip)
by beebj
Sat Apr 12, 2008

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/12/15638/8512/891/494398
...............

Some on that site are saying her husband gave 25K contribution to HRC. I think someone in the media should do some more digging into this one. The fund raiser was apparently in a private home and was not supposed to be taped. This is posted on the Obama blog board:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/hopeandchange/gGBWzl

How I spent my Sunday with Obama and the Mayhill Fowler Agenda
By Sandy - Apr 12th, 2008 at 5:50 am EDT

Imagine my surprise to see an article in the Huffington Post by Mayhill Fowler describing his answer as "a problematic judgment call in trying to explain working class culture to a much wealthier audience." and his answer being like "explaining the yawning cultural gap that separates a Turkeyfoot from a Marin County." I guess Ms. Fowler thought that, unlike herself, the other attendees had never gone outside the large house in Pacific Heights where the event was held. I grew up working class in Texas. I thought it ironic that Ms Fowler, was attempting to paint Obama as a condescending elitist, while at the same time she was stereotyping everybody at the event with her omniscient insight.

In any case, her agenda was clear. Despite Ms. Fowler talking about the people at the fundraiser being middle class in an earlier post, the "rich man poor man" theme fit better with the "Obama as a judgmental elite, talking to judgmental elites" spin. This also seemed to fit with some of her earlier articles where she had described Obama as cocky, arrogant, and even "flirty". What a coincidence that she now writes an article putting another twist on Obama's personality. All she had to do was a sneak a recorder in an small event for Obama supporters and do a little bit of crafty writing and out of context editing. Now Fox News and Lou Dobbs are having a field day.

(snip)

It was great seeing Obama in a relaxed setting, talking both in detail and inspiring prose, in what was essentially a large living room.

Too bad there were roaches under the sofa.

............

I hope KO looks into this or at least Huffington Post does some digging!
:hide:

[Symarip]

28. Did they bring pots and pans?

That would have really sealed the deal.

[Donna Zen]

29. Makes me wonder

I wonder how many of those folks have ever protested the war, or media consolidation, or tax-breaks for millionaires, or the WTO, or unfair trade agreements....... I'm going out on a limb here but I'd say "no." You see, Hillary doesn't make an issue of those things. Instead she plays "molehill" politics looking for the tiniest slip to exploit.

[golddigger]

38. What no link? Paranoid dellusions maybe? I heard Abilify works great.

:shrug:

[AllentownJake]

40. Yeah

I was hallucinating when I was at the sister office in Allentown and people told me about it.

[PA Democrat]

72. Hey, Jake. They were doing it in Pittsburgh too. Photo and article here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5494368&mesg_id=5494368

[AllentownJake]

41. Do you have a problem with people on medication?

Seriously asshole I have a fucking friend who is bi-polar and that shit makes him well. Try next time saying a meds instead of mentioning a particular drug.

[golddigger]

44. Why what's wrong with Abilify? Works great doesn't it? What's the problem?

[Clintonista2]

47. He's entered his "angry" stage lol. Apparently it's not working.

[AllentownJake]

51. So making fun of people

Who have a legit need for that drug is funny?

I thought I was on democratic underground.

[AllentownJake]

50. Sorry

I apologize for getting angry. I think there is a tremendous amount of discrimination and misunderstanding for people with mental illness out there and I interpretted it as a slur against those who use that drug.

[golddigger]

45. Dupe. self delete.

[sniffa]

46. Please calm down.

Personal attacks will not result in anything except your post's deletion. Ignored is looking for a negative reaction, and that's what he got. Please, don't give in. :hi:

[AllentownJake]

52. In addition to having a friend

who is on that drug my brother is mentally retarded. He's on a lot of psychiatric medication to keep him calm. I get pissed when people say something about those drugs cause without them people would be struggling more than they already are.

[sniffa]

63. Believe me, if anyone understands that

it's me.

That being said, it's best to not give the negative attention they want. It's hard I know, but it can be done. :hi:

[snooper2]

80. So, is that a friend you fuck?

or just a fucking friend?

[Danger Mouse]

53. making fun of mentally ill people?

classy!
what's next? cripples? the mentally retarded?

[golddigger]

56. Who's mentally ill? Hell with my back problems and heart I have a pharmacy in my medicine cabinet.

[golddigger]

57. And Mr. self righteous, the OP was making fun of people in his post.

Can you say HYPOCRISY?

[AllentownJake]

61. For coming to

our office and protesting. Democrats protesting other democrats in the street. I'll plead guilty to making fun of that.

[Catchawave]

64. I haven't read the whole thread yet....is there a link to the story?

I'm having problems believing it. Surely some small town newsie would have picked it up by now.

I've never heard candidates "protesting" each other, especially from the same party.

[AllentownJake]

65. It it isn't true

Than people lied to me at the office which I find doubtful

I look in tommorows paper for everyone.

It was 15-20 people hardly newsworthy but you never know.

[Danger Mouse]

69. OP made fun of their actions and did not imply they were mentally ill.

You made fun of the OP by calling him mentally ill.
I find there to be a difference in that.

[Hepburn]

58. Did they have pots and pans???

:rofl:

[golddigger]

67. Only the one's you need to clean.

:evilgrin:

[Auntie Bush]

68. "come on show some intelligence people."

That's what I kept asking Obama supporters in the beginning of this primary when they drug out those old republican talking points and slimed Hillary. And these same people wonder why democrats are sliming each other. Who the hell started it? They didn't think Obama would ever need their support so to hell with us and wanting to ever make amends and they burned their bridges. Maybe they should have cared! Now it is too late! There are no bridges left to cross/burn. Say hello to President McCain and 3 more conservative SCJs. Thanks! Obama supporters!

[sniffa]

70. Hey look, there's pictures now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5494368&mesg_id=5494368

I hope some apologize now.

[Lannigan]

75. Whatever

No one's going to apologize. So what? Only allowed to stand for the 'important' issues now?

This is politics at its best...everyone's involved, even the small town folks who want Obama to know they are not bitter.

[sniffa]

76. How honorable

People call Jake a liar, and worse, and there's nothing to apologize for. Whatever indeed. :patriot:

[Lannigan]

78. No one called Jake a liar

Someone asked for links. Hardly calling someone a liar.

I am going to investigate too.

Taking this personally b/c you all are talking about my fellow PA peeps. I'd defend the Obama supporters the same way.

[sniffa]

79. I guess questioning his credibility and calling him mentally ill is not

technically calling him a liar. I concede you the point. :hi:

[AllentownJake]

84. When I walk into the office in Allentown

and a bunch of people are like your not going to believe what is happening....I tend to believe them. If I'm wrong shame on me.

[Lannigan]

87. Even if it did happen...

...I still don't see anything wrong with it. I think it's cool that so many people are part of the political process.

When did Obama open an Allentown office? Is it on Hamilton St? I envy you guys having your main office in Bethlehem. That Brew Works is one of my favorite places (although the Allentown one is pretty good too).

Sorry, off-topic!

[Independent-Voter]

73. What a bunch of fucking idiots. Canvas for Veruca if you want to actually do something effective.

God damn, her base consists of fucking idiots.

[Lannigan]

74. I think this is BS

and I will find out. I live right outside of Bethlehem and will post the real deal if I can get any proof of anything.

If they did, it was probably some overzealous supporters (oh gee, Hillary has those too?) who were carrying on the protest from Friday.

[AllentownJake]

82. This was organized

2 offices have confirmed reports in papers and I heard of the Bethlehem office second hand.

This is really low of your candidate and her campaign.

[Lannigan]

77. Protest was in Pittsburgh

According to the link Sniffa provided - not Bethlehem.

You live in the Lehigh Valley? I haven't seen one BO supporter yet, except outside the office in Bethlehem. You guys should come down near Emmaus - the Ron Paul signs everywhere are very disturbing. We should at least try to turn those people Dem!

[AllentownJake]

81. I have knocked on close to 1500 doors

There was one in Bethlehem as well. It didn't get press coverage however. I have no reason to lie about it.

In the past five weekends I have knocked on about 1500 doors. Mostly in my township but in Emmaus and in Center City as well. Support in some areas is 50/50. I have yet though to hit a pro-Hillary neighborhood.

I don't think they have us working the same neighborhoods. I'm on a team of 20 for my township and we haven't seen any Hillary supporters out walking. My only guess is we are targeting different areas.

[Bad Thoughts]

83. They are showing that issues, not words, matter eom.

[Wheaty]

85. Altoona Too

http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/506478.html?nav=742

Notice that two quoted in the article aren't even from Pennsylvania.

[AllentownJake]

86. This was freaking organized

No way protesters appear at all our offices.