OH NO SHE DIDN'T...wow.

[ourbluenation]

ON that live faith thing on CNN right now she basically said the democratic party, to be blunt, has been out of touch with regular americans

(yikes - edited to remove the word "not" as in not been out of touch)

[MadBadger]

1. She just shat on San Francisco

[Catherina]

2. Oh yes she did. And she's going to let him "speak for himself" but

can't stop herself from slinging mud.

Sling it with both hands Hillary; you're nailing your own coffin shut.

[MADem]

3. You didn't hear her. She said the D's ARE out of touch, and that they are

often perceived as elitist and patronizing.

[ourbluenation]

7. I know I know...it was a typo. I fixed it. thx

[NJmaverick]

4. She is a DINO that is out of touch with the Democratic party

I hope they reward her properly for her comments

[L0oniX]

30. Her and her little DLC clan.

[jackson_dem]

5. No, she meant Gore and Kerry were seen that way. That is the truth and why they lost

[ourbluenation]

8. she SAID the democratic party. argh! hillary - wth are you doing?

[jackson_dem]

20. Um...that is a big reason why we went from a governing party to a minority party

[ourbluenation]

24. The preception was created by the gop. It's a little unnerving to hear a dem candidate repeat it.

[jackson_dem]

29. It is unnerving to hear the truth? If we are to become a majority we have to shake that perception

With Obama (the rethug wet dream) we won't.

[ourbluenation]

34. Perception does not equal the truth. She shouldn't have said that. n/t

[Garbo 2004]

48. We (Dems) already are the majority party. Didn't you notice? Not just Congress, but also

governorships and party registration.

[Garbo 2004]

47. Um. we lost the House in 94 after 40 yrs of Dem majority,. Who were the "elitist" Dems then? n/t

[pollo poco]

33. but they didn't lose

The elections were rigged.
Why this meme that Gore and Kerry lost has ever become popular with dems is a mystery to me. It is very destructive.
Gore won the popular vote, and had the election stolen by the supreme court.
People are now serving time for what they did to Kerry in Ohio. And don't forget the other games that were played. Not enough machines in democratic neighborhoods. Dirty tricks used to disenfranchise minorities before they even got to the polls. Machines owned by a corporation that swore to help elect Bush...
Millions of voters were affected. This stuff has all been verified on Brad Blog. It is no longer up for debate. It is as much part of our history as the war.

If you don't dig Gore and Kerry and just have to call them elitist, OK have a good venting session. But Bush didn't beat either of them without cheating.
I think this is important, because the GOP is undoubtedly planning to steal the next election, too. We will need a landslide to get our candidate elected. All this repeating aboput lame, elitist and ineffective democrats is very good for the opposition. They don't want us to look at what really happened, and depend on our keeping the blame on our own perfectly electable candidates. They want us to blame ourselves and expect to lose, so we won't be surprised when McCain wins.

[beachmom]

35. Ah, I see the Hillary folks have adopted the latest talking point: blame it all on Gore & Kerry

Ugh.

[Garbo 2004]

36. Gore won the popular vote. And we know what happened with Florida and SCOTUS.

And 2004 wasn't without more than a few question marks.

[pdxmom]

6. And then proceded to specifically name Kerry and Gore as being

perceived as out of touch.

[Kaylee]

12. She went there.....wow.......

[ourbluenation]

13. it's a right wing talking point. "to be blunt". come on Hillary. n/t

[blm]

21. Big surprise - Hillary VALIDATES another LYING RW TALKING POINT. She always does.

Kerry insulted the troops, too, right Hill, you lying, Bushloving traitor.

[Bigleaf]

16. That tells me the Gore rumor might not be just a rumor after all and she is pre-emptively striking.

[me b zola]

41. Bingo

That's the second thing that went through my mind.

[jackson_dem]

22. Which is the truth. Why do you think they lost? That was a huge factor, especially for Kerry

I thought you wanted politicians to tell it like it is (even if it is bigoted as in Obama's case)? That was the Obamite party line 24 hours ago.

[blm]

26. Kerry won. If America perceived him as elitist on Nov2, 2004, then why did BushInc have to steal

and cheat and use the swifts for months to lie about Kerry?

Why would the RNC and Rove use the US attorney office and purge voter rolls to sabotage voters and pressure the election process?

Kerry won. The RNC stole it for Bush and the DNC run by Clinton loyalist Terry McAuliffe sat on his hands for four years and let them do it.

[jackson_dem]

28. Kerry lost--by 3 million votes against a blabbering fool

[blm]

40. Clintons SUPPORTED a blabberingfool PUBLICLY. Carville sabotaged Ohio voters for a blabberingfool

and Terry McAuliffe sat on his hands for four years while the RNC gained control of every level of the election process where the votes were allowed, cast and counted, to protect the blabberingfool so Hillary2008 could get into office and continue to protect BushInc from the left.


Clintons backstabbed Kerry for that blabberingfool.
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

Bill defended that blabberingfool in every high profile interview during his 3 week book tour in summer2004.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Carville sabotaged Dem voters in Ohio for that blabberingfool on election night.
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


Hillary VALIDATES the lies from that blabberingfool whenever she thinks it suits her agenda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

The Clintons have protected that family of blabbering FASCISTS throughout the 90s.
http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[Garbo 2004]

49. If you want to "tell it like it is" at least acknowledge Gore won popular vote & SCOTUS gave Bush FL

[City Lights]

9. What the fuck is a "regular" American? eom

[Starbucks Anarchist]

15. The ones that live in states she thinks don't count.

[K Gardner]

27. OMG... spew warning .. LOL !

[City Lights]

45. Oh, the fly-overs are regular Americans.

That leaves me out.

FUHDRC!

[whistler162]

39. A bran eating....

prune juice swilling citizen.

[City Lights]

43. LOL! eom

[BlueIdaho]

10. The........

wheels on her bus go round and round...

Are we sure she's a democrat?

[Bonobo]

11. Why does she hate regular Americans?

[jefferson_dem]

14. She's been rolling with this same "fuck the party and past nominees" meme for a day now.

I posted a video where she referred to past nomiees as "elitist" and "out of touch."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x118120

How anyone can defend scumbag-of-a-woman is beyond me.

[DearAbby]

17. Wow

:wow:

[bilgewaterbill]

18. She needs to shut up. This is embarrassing.

[Renaissance Man]

19. Wait, HOLD UP!

Hillary Clinton proposes a 20-state strategy, her supporters call almost all of Middle America and the heartland as "flyover" country, and then all of a sudden, Democrats are "out of touch" with regular Americans?

You HAVE to love the irony.

[Hieronymus]

23. I thought i heard that .. thanks. Where in Hell did she find that scarf?

[ourbluenation]

25. i think she looks nice.

[quantass]

32. Hillary Donations pay for nice scarfs i hear

[BlooInBloo]

31. (shrug) Standard Clinton/Lieberman /McCain/republican strategy.

[Kber]

37. I agree - the Dem Party has been out of touch with regular Americans

you see, I thing we regular americans can not only tell a truth from a lie, we can tell sincerity from pandering.

We opposed the war in far greater numbers and much sooner than the party realized.

We favor gay / civil rights.

We want Representatives who aren't in bed with the corporations and lobbyists.

We want to be united, not divided.

We are more liberal and progressive than the Party realizes.

Frankly, I think she's on to something - the Democratic Party hasn't represented ME for years!

[RememberWellstone]

38. I agree.

The majority of America is "regular" people and we are not reaching them. We only got half of them.

[johnnydrama]

42. why is that?

Because the Democrats are actually out of touch, or Kerry & Gore are actually elitists, or is the press who constantly make people believe things like that, by showing Kerry windsurfing non-stop for 2 months? And the press let people believe W is a down to earth cowboy when he's from CT?

Did she say that Americans think the Democrats, & Kerry & Gore are out of touch, but THEY'RE WRONG, or did she not add that.

If she didn't say that, than she can go to hell.

[ampad]

46. This is what I'm trying to figure out

I missed her saying that and as much as I cannot stand the woman I find it hard to believe that she said Kerry and Gore (especially Gore) is out of touch or was out of touch with America. Did she really say that or are we paraphrasing here?

[ourbluenation]

44. The democratic party platform is absolutely more in touch with us regular folks.

people are confusing perception with reality here. and a candidate for the nominee of the democratic party just said that THE democratic party is out of touch with regular americans. sweet jesus, that was dumb, and false.