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Sun Apr-13-08 07:27 PM
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I'm an Agnostic and I'm a good person. So sue me. |
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I'm getting the willies from all this Jesus and Holy Spirit talk on the "Compassion" Forum.
Hillary's personal relationship with God makes me wonder why the hell she doesn;t listen to him more.
But to be honest, I suspect Obama will give me the willies too when he gets into his Jesus rap.
Just have to say that.
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:28 PM
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1. I don't watch the religious pandering shit. I realize it must be done, but |
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:29 PM
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2. It's also supposed to cover their views on AIDS and poverty, |
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maybe other topics. IOW, it won't all be about religion, if that helps.
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:29 PM
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3. I hate that politicians have to do this |
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:31 PM
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7. I wish one of them would just say.... |
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"I have my own views about religion, and it's not of your damn business. It won't affect my performance on the job one way or the other."
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:38 PM
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14. that would make me cry |
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:30 PM
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4. I'm not watching it either, Red Sox and Yankees are on |
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beats that religious crap anyday
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:30 PM
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5. I'm agnostic too, but I haven't heard anything from Obama to give me the willies. nt |
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:31 PM
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It's a shame that a non-religious person will NEVER make it this far..... could you imagine an atheist being interviewed in this "forum"?
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:31 PM
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8. I'm agnostic too, and the way that politicians have to pander on religion |
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Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 07:32 PM by ChimpersMcSmirkers
and specifically, christianity is quite obnoxious.
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:32 PM
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9. Yeah, I'm an agnostic too |
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I guess we'll never be president.
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:33 PM
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10. i'm not even watching, the candidate's religion or lack there of is their business |
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and i am so tired of hearing about, enjoy your religion, have a ball, worship 24/7 but it doesn't say a wit about someone's compassion or humanity.
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:37 PM
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12. Yeah, but how they dance around that third rail says volumes about their characters |
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It may suck, but it's a good window to their souls.
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:34 PM
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11. Just you wait, Enry Iggins, |
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:37 PM
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13. She is talking to you. |
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But the millions of others who have had religion in their background. She knows her shit.
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:42 PM
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15. Well, watching it we can see the context tomorrow's childish smears were in. |
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:46 PM
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16. I totally hate that shit. Whatever happened to the "no religious test for office" thing |
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Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 07:46 PM by scarletwoman
in the Constitution?
I want a candidate who says, "You know what? My spiritual beliefs are none of your damn business!"
Absent that, I would settle for Liberation Theology.
Absent that, I guess I'll settle for the least obnoxious religious panderer.
And given no escape from obnoxious religious pandering, I'll still take Obama over Clinton because Clinton is a DLCer. When I'm stuck with wanting anybody but Clinton, I guess that lands me in the Obama camp.
But I still think this whole religious thing stinks.
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eek MD
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:49 PM
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17. There is no religious test..... |
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However, being prejudiced against atheists and agnostics is still widely acceptable.....Heaven forbid, our "loose morals" would be unleashed on the populace. :P
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Sun Apr-13-08 07:58 PM
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18. I appreciate you humor -- "loose morals", indeed. |
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However, these days it really DOES seem that any candidate for any office must, at a bare minimum, go to great pains to proclaim that they ARE religious.
I'm old enough to remember when candidates' religion NEVER came up at all -- except when JFK was running for office. And HE had to go to great lengths to assure people that his religion would NOT have any bearing on how he conducted himself in office.
This religion thing has done a complete 180 from those days. I really do hate it.
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Sun Apr-13-08 08:39 PM
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19. "We are a nation of atheists"....Obama |
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hot damn...now we're talking.
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Sun Apr-13-08 08:43 PM
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22. his reply, which I've heard him say before, was great |
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we people of faith have to be able to translate our actions based on faith in a way that people who believe differently can understand.
We can't be saying "I have a direct line to god so you have to do it my way"
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Sun Apr-13-08 08:46 PM
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Part of what I like about him.......... Considering the forum, and the fact that he knows there's not a whole lot of atheists watching this.....he still acknowledges that there are non-religious people in the country, and that we have just as much right of a say in democracy as the religious folk do.............. It would've been so easy for him to completely disregard our existence in that closing remark.... :)
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Sun Apr-13-08 08:41 PM
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20. You sound like a "humanist" like Kurt Vonnegut |
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Sun Apr-13-08 08:41 PM
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21. "There are no atheists in fox holes!" |
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Said the chaplain to the private as he ordered him out of the crowded fox hole. :evilgrin:
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Sun Apr-13-08 08:43 PM
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23. I'm an agnostic, but I've come to embrace people of faith... |
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And I'm glad to support a proud, but reasonable Christian.
Christians no longer frighten me.
Fundies on the other hand...:scared:
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Sun Apr-13-08 08:55 PM
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25. It really is demeaning to both campaigns that they'd agree to this |
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I suppose it could be worse -it could have been on PBS or Fox.
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Sun Apr-13-08 09:12 PM
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26. Agnostics are good, religion doesn't always make a difference |
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in how people treat others or lead a country.
I don't like injecting this kind of thing in elections, its been a disaster so many times before and only ends up hurting people.
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