Damn, she is on her game!

[RememberWellstone]

I love her when she is this loose and touchable...she is an amazing woman, no question. What a great President she would make! She is speaking the language of average Americans right now.

[tekisui]

1. Who are you talking about?

[RememberWellstone]

3. She is real tonight.

She is engaging, sweet and very soft spoken. I like this part of her style.

[populistdriven]

49. michelle obama?

[rodeodance]

72. you are out of touch. since when is MO running for Pres!!

[populistdriven]

97. The OP stated "What a great President she would make!" it doesn't specify if 'she' is running

Michelle would make a Great President but we will all have to settle for first lady, for now.

145 rec's: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5503342&mesg_id=5503342 Who is out of touch with the majority of DU & progressives?

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

5. I think she would too.

I however believe that Obama would be even better.
I will vote for whoever is nominated.

Will you?

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. Dunno. The Goddess of Peace, maybe?

No TV on in here tonight.

[aaroh]

62. Hillary is experienced @ the game, Obama wants to END the game!

[rodeodance]

73. BHO/fans can't take the heat--weak--they cry when the media dares to vet him

[dionysus]

86. can you even type that shit with a straight face anymore, that is if you ever could?

you guys are the whiniest bunch of cryers I've ever seen, you're losing the race, and you say it's *US* that are crying?

please look up projection in the dictionary....

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[blm]

74. Exactly... we're sick of BEING gamed.

You would think more Democrats were sickened by the strategy and tired of BEING gamed.

[rodeodance]

76. Saddle up and stop crying. Long ways to go. Get some backbone.

[blm]

83. The day Bushloving pissants can make me cry is the twelfth of NEVER. Looking the other way doesn't

give you backbone, rodeodance. CONFRONTING the gameplaying fascists and their protectors would - so, whenever you are ready to join the movement to get rid of the closed government Democrats who betray you every day, let us know.

[rodeodance]

90. You LIE. Hilary supporters do NOT love Bush. Name-calling is so immature.

[blm]

95. I'm talking about Clintons and their campaign. Their Dem supporters are merely uninformed

in my view. They invested themselves in the Clintons for many years and can't break out of their conditioning.

Of course, some supporters MAY love being gamed politically, just as some people enjoy being beaten by sadists.

[dionysus]

88. i guess "cry" is the shillbot poutrage word du jour...

:rolf:

[oviedodem]

2. She is putting the whole nation to sleep.

[RememberWellstone]

7. Maybe she can throw some Hope

or change b.s. to you Oompas to make you feel like there's actually something important going on. Or maybe she can talk about being bitter and cling to a bible, that seems to work well.

[oviedodem]

10. This woman panders to WHOMEVER she needs to and you know it.

[RememberWellstone]

26. yeah right! Obama is just like me!

Everything about him screams to me, an average American...I don't why I don't trust his "normal" life and upbringing.

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

16. Remember Wellstone,

I will vote for Hillary if she is nominated even though I think Obama is a superior candidate. (10% chance or less according to most pundits)

Will you vote for Obama when he is nominated? (90% chance according to most pundits)

[smiley_glad_hands]

27. How about a throw pillow? Her rhetoric is tiring and disenginuous. eom

[rodeodance]

91. Pillows belong the BHO fans. Look at them cry when their leader is vetted.

[catnhatnh]

43. How typical.....

...someone disagrees politely in even the smallest degree and the name-calling and horseshit starts....I never liked her, but after seeing the "support" she engenders I am absolutely appalled.Bye the bye-Wellstone would be also.

[emilyg]

40. Did not put me to sleep.

[Lisa0825]

4. Whoa....

what?

Are you watching the same show as me?

[mmonk]

6. She appeared to be struggling to me at first.

She's gotten better later as it goes.

[RememberWellstone]

9. Yes, she has.

She knows how to connect, probably better than Bill when she does it.

[smiley_glad_hands]

8. She'd make a great republican vice president. eom

[RememberWellstone]

14. But she's a democrat

through and through, how will that work out? You mean, burn the majority for what the minority want to do? nahhh, we need leadership not rhetoric.

[smiley_glad_hands]

25. She needs to stop selling out dems and stop using republican frames against her own party and

the progressive movement. People don't want conservativism anymore. They want change. If she can't see how the republicans have been manipulating the working class with wedge issues, she is either complicit and part of the problem or she is not very bright.

[RememberWellstone]

28. Vote Obama if you want glib.

I love Hillary because she is so reachable.

[smiley_glad_hands]

30. What does that mean? Nothing.

You want more of the same, vote Hill. More triangulation, more wedge issues, more culture wars, more national division, more cynicism, more bs from the elite class that makes its way on the backs of working people by dividing them along cultural lines.

[papau]

32. Use Obama as the sell out for GOP"LOVE" and we agree with your statement

[smiley_glad_hands]

38. Obama didn't trash Kerry. Obama doesn't use republican frames against progressives. eom

[rodeodance]

79. too bad. I do not like the change BHO is selling and neither do about half the voters so far.

[Medusa]

36. Since when? She's been running a Republican campaign

hell, she even put her seal of approval on MCCain.

[kevinmc]

11. Paul Wellstone would not have anything to do with her .... n/t

[RememberWellstone]

17. I guess you would know

since you are the authority...btw, who are you to speak for Paul?

[malta blue]

31. just out of curiosity - what is your connection

to Paul? He was my advisor in college...

[RememberWellstone]

34. What kind of advisor?

I have followed Paul and his career for years...I think he is the greatest political figure of my lifetime. My only true hero in the political forum.

[malta blue]

35. my academic advisor - I was a pogo major at

Carleton College.

edited to ask - did you ever meet him?

[RememberWellstone]

46. Never had the pleasure

But have heard him speak on more than one occasion, amazing man. The description of courage and a fighter. Would have been the greatest President this nation would have ever had in history. Period.

[blm]

87. Yes - he showed the courage to fight AGAINST the fascist march - not be a coward and give in to them

and only show fight against those in your own Dem party.

[ourbluenation]

19. you read my mind. thank you. n/t

[K Gardner]

13. Loose and touchable?

[RememberWellstone]

18. You can read...kudos!

Right on.

[americanstranger]

20. Weird choice of words there.

I don't want that particular mental picture, thanks. :rofl:

- as

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

60. yes, she sanded off the rough edges on her kitchen sink

:rofl:

That was after she had those beers in PA to show that she
was the President you'd love to have a beer with :beer:


NOT! :spray:

[BzaDem]

15. She is great.

As usual, if you looked at the other thread, you would think she was actually doing badly. If you looked at what most of the people here think about anything related to Hillary, good or bad, you could predict responses 95% of the time.

[RememberWellstone]

22. She could turn water into wine

and the Oompas would say it was too religious and show boating.:eyes:

[Lou Queb]

41. But RememberWellstone, what do you have to say to the HRClinton opposers who

claim that she's not for change, not progressive, tied to corporations etc. You know what I mean ? I just want to know how the Clinton supporters look at the whole thing. Do you see her as really standing for change, in a progressive direction ? Im just asking, It's not a smear pointing at you or anything, thanks. I feel pity sometimes for you guys, having your contender so gummed up.

[Lisa0825]

24. I'm sorry, but this is wishful thinking....

I have admitted before when she was good in debates, and that has been often. But tonight she is NOT "on" whatsoever. She is not stumbling so badly like she was for the first 30 minutes, but this is certainly one of her poorer performances.

[ginnyinWI]

80. She's a great actress.

Even the CNN moderators thought Obama came off better--more authentic in what he said. All he had to do was to tell the truth about his beliefs.

[Catherina]

21. You must be watching a rerun of Hillary on the Hallmark Channel

I know we're not watching the same CNN Compassion Forum appearance.

[BlooInBloo]

23. DUzy!!!

:rofl:

[Yael]

29. I'm not sure what you are watching, but the rest of have CNN on

Come join us!

[bigtree]

33. Yes. Sen. Clinton was very much on her game. Very deep and knowledgeable.

[thevoiceofreason]

47. She got her ass handed to her.

[TahitiNut]

52. Only half of it.

That's all she has. She's been half-assed for years, now.

[thevoiceofreason]

54. Damn. Want to marry one of my kids? We need to be related!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

37. Twister?

[Bonobo]

39. "Language of average Americans" = "incomprehensible run-on sentences"?

[Zhade]

42. But still, she will not get the nom.

So, you're impressed with her proven lies?

[smiley_glad_hands]

44. Lie, cheat, and steal: that is the republican way, eom

[catnhatnh]

45. New debate rule....

if you start the thread, and are the first to call those with different views by a derogatory name (Oompas reply #7) you have failed.

[Life Long Dem]

48. So the role of faith in Hillary's life was more of "none of your business"

Or too personal. And Obama spoke openly and more fluently about faith in his life.

[bowens43]

50. Yep, it's all a game to her......

luckily for America, she doesn't play very well. She does politics like Obama does bowling.

[FlyingSquirrel]

51. OMG you said loose and touchable

I don't know what to say.

[gal]

53. Yawn

She put me and my hubbie to sleep, where was the excitement? There was one question she made a joke and it would have been good but then she paused and started talking and ruined it.

[AZBlue]

55. Slamming San Francisco, Kerry, Gore and praising Bush is "on her game"??

Actually, you're absolutely right: that is her game.

[ginnyinWI]

82. She looks "on her game" when she has a chance to rehearse first.

When she gets an unexpected question, she looks like the "Home Alone" kid and just cackles.

[berni_mccoy]

56. This loose and touchable?

[Beacool]

57. She did great and has always been religious. It's part of who she is.

Obama? I have no idea what he said, I changed the channel.

[stratomagi]

59. Do you change the channel when

Hillary lies about things too?

[Beacool]

96. I only change the channel for two people: Bush & Obama.

:shrug:

[grantcart]

61. well then no wonder you thought she did well

the comparison was significant but you will never know

[my3boyz]

58. Too bad for YOU that you will never find out what kind of president she would make

She will lose to Obama in the primary season. She will be dead to the democratic party after the way she has behaved during this primary season and will NEVER get another decent chance to become the nominee. She had every advantage going into this primary (SD's up to wazooo because of Bill..not anything that she did). You can bet that will never happen again.

[StevieM]

63. Obama has all the unearned advantages. Money, the media in his pocket, establishment support,

upper-income voters who attend the caucuses. Hillary is the David running against the Goliath, and her being incorrectly labeled the Goliath is just one more disadvantage.

I think we will find out what kind of president she will be and I think she will be a great one.

Steve

[TheDonkey]

64. Step away from the Kool-aid dear, you are talking pure nonsense

Somehow Obama attracting over a million donors is "unearned" yet Hillary stopping by big lobbyist HQs and getting fat checks is some how valient.

The media was groveling for Hillary long before Obama came onto the scene and is still very much for her with the exception of MSNBC, she has the Clinton News Network and Faux News shilling for her 24/7, she has an incumbent president stumping for her, and she has... well HAD the establishment for her until she began to lose and really has no chance of winning. So ok, thats a fair claim. :rofl:

[quakerboy]

68. Yup. Because Obama had all that name recognition

and lots of high up connections going back 20 years to see him through his losses...

[my3boyz]

69. Hahahahahaha

You have me laughing so hard! Please post some more! I want to get some more laughs in for today.

[ginnyinWI]

85. "unearned" you say???

We're really though the looking glass now, aren't we. He's earned every damned thing he's gotten in life. Read his memoir!

How did he get those donations, that media? By sitting around? How did he get that "establishment" support? His spouse isn't a former president, or something, is she?

Hillary is not a victim of Obama's, no matter how many times people say it!

[GoesTo11]

65. Advised to act loose and touchable today

[VotesForWomen]

66. i think she's be a lot better prez than Obama. nt

[datopbanana]

67. Would that have anything to do with her being a woman?

[ShortnFiery]

70. I'm genuinely ashamed that HRC is my gender. She's not "a leader" but "an attack dog and panderer"

It's shameful that both her and her husband have a gross form of The Stockholm Syndrome ... They are campaigning like right wing republicans and it's shameful.

On a larger scale, I'm genuinely saddened that both Hill and Bill call themselves "Democrats." :(

[Obamanaut]

71. "...language of average Americans..." seems a lot like "typical

white woman." Shame on you!

:sarcasm:

[rodeodance]

75. REC and thank you--You go Hillary.

[Bensthename]

77. She appears to be in fight of flight mode to me because she is close to losing.

[Raffi Ella]

78. Ok, let me just say, I am SO not interested in her religion

and it was a huge turn off for me to see her engaging in this.

Having said that... I was surprised how comfortable she seemed. I'm not religious and I don't think of the Democratic Party as very religious but obviously there is religion within the Party so, Ok. We are the Good and Righteous Party in any terms; We believe in helping others, the social net; If We can re frame the issue, take it back from the extreme right wing, make it about helping people then, fine. Why shouldn't We take back the religious vote by expressing religion - On Our terms.

She did well in that sense, I think.

[rodeodance]

81. yes, on our terms--a gentler faith, not the extreem RW type that has dominated

the political landscape.

[susankh4]

84. Fabulous weekend for Ms. Clinton!

I am soooo happy for her!

[Hepburn]

93. Ummmmmm....

....yeah, getting her ass handed to her again ~~ I can see why you would be proud of her!

:rofl:

[SeaLyons]

89. K & R

Go Hillary!!!

[bunnies]

92. any man that called me "loose and touchable"

would earn himself a serious verbal ass-whooping. What a disrespectful thing to say about a woman.

[mod mom]

94. Doesn't her BLATANT LIES about Bosnia + NAFTA, her embellishments on Irish Peace Plan, S chip and

bother you? Do you really want another Liar in Chief? (especially one who voted for the war in Iraq and for Kyl Lieberman? is aligned with corporate interest? and has chosen the likes to Mark Penn to advise her?)