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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:11 PM
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Obama is doing VERY WELL
he has not always does well in these type of forums. but he is doing a good job here. far better than Hillary did. not just in style but he is full of substance.

he explains things in a way where people can understand based on personal experience.

i loved his answer to the question about abortion .
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:12 PM
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1. What did he say about abortion?
I am watching John Adams.
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:21 PM
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15. he said....
in part....'women are responsible'.....

I'm wondering if that will cause a *stink* ?
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:24 PM
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21. "Women are responsible" Yeah, women and the Holy Ghost. Their fault.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:13 PM
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2. That's because he's being honest, consistent and not pandering
It's easy to do well when you can speak openly. He's speaking straight from the heart, I love it.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:14 PM
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3. And he sounds natural and sincere
And doesn't react to the attempts at "gotcha" questions about his previous statements...
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:15 PM
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4. Pro-choicers ignore the moral consequences of abortion? How high and mighty of him
He actually said again that pro-choicers ignore the moral consequences of abortion. Way to slam another whole population he doesn't belong to over an issue he'll never face and doesn't understand. He's a jerk.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:17 PM
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11. Like Bill said
For the entire 8 years he was in office? We should make abbortion rare...why would you want to make it rare if there weren't consequences for it.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:21 PM
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16. You want to make it rare because unwanted pregnancy is usually preventable! D'ok...
Consequences are optional.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:24 PM
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20. So
Women who have had abortions sometimes don't have health consequences and some residual feelings about it?

I'm 100% pro-choice but there are consequences to abortion that we don't talk about.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:25 PM
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22. No! They're optional! People choose the negative health consequences and feelings!
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:43 PM
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26. Talking about abortion
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 08:44 PM by splat
Undoings and major life choices may or may not have consequences. Context matters. There's always something that doesn't happen.

For some, the decision on its own is damaging, especially if conservative religion has them damned for it. That's the moral dilemma, some science could help validate this discovered truth.

Many people don't think a few cells have consciousness; some confirmed pregnancies abort after a couple of months with the early delivery of an undifferentiated something that looks like a chicken neck.

One of the great religious debates is when a soul enters a body.

None of this notes that the actual medical procedure is far safer than what it replaced: coat hangers and back alley deaths. To which it could again return, if male authorities debate who controls a woman's body and her life choices as though it were just theoretical theology, but might make a good law.

But what's really absurd is this sort of prim political discussion in a blatantly sexualized culture, which they do not discuss.

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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:18 PM
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13. Bye, splat
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:21 PM
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17. Phew, so he did *not* say that then, correct?
Relief.
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:08 PM
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30. that 'women were responsible'?
yes, Obama did say that.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:20 PM
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14. Wow! He's actually acknowledging a dialogue rather than empty sloganeering
GOBAMA!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:27 PM
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24. I guess you didn't hear Hillary's answer before your dishonest summary
:eyes:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:15 PM
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5. He's trouncing Hillary, nobody is going to remember a thing she said.
Except for the "liberal" slam. Hehe.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:16 PM
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7. and all her lies. n/t
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:17 PM
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9. You must be in love if you think he's doing well here
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:18 PM
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12. Excuse me?
WTF does that mean?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:21 PM
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18. You must be stinking up
Obama threads again with your splat.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:43 PM
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27. Even Candy Cowly had to admit that Obama was more "fluent" than
Hillary. Even neocon bushie, Michael Gershon had to admit the same. And, the audience was CLEARLY more with Obama than with Hillary.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:16 PM
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6. Gore Won
He said it. She said he lost. Who is the democrat now?
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:23 PM
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19. reminds me of
the SNL sketch of a few weeks ago---

Clinton responds---Obama brings up the rear.........
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:16 PM
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8. What a gift for common sense and good judgement he has.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:17 PM
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10. Yes, he continues to impress me! nt
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:27 PM
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23. Great answer on Islam. nm
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:42 PM
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25. He slayed it. But I knew he would. Why? Because he was being
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 08:44 PM by Kahuna
his real self. Unlike Hillary who was just trying to pass with a gentleman's "C."
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:44 PM
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28. oh, yeah, it was a huge contrast
Hillary always looked like she was searching for whatever sounded best politically.

while Obama sounded like a professor teaching and explaining.

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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:46 PM
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29. His time went so quickly, couldn't believe it was over already....
Hillary went on and on and bored me to tears....felt like she had 3 times more time....and said nothing of substance that mattered to most voters.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:17 PM
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31. It was painful, that whole first hour
The second hour really did go fast. I thought the questions from the audience were far superior to the interviewers' - I'm not religious, but I appreciated the faith community's focus on social issues.
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