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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:05 PM
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Thats it there is no way in hell i'm voting for Clinton if shes the nominee
I listen to her DISS Gore what a shameless woman she is. i would vote for a dog before i vote for her MY GOODNESS this woman is cold
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:08 PM
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1. well then
I hope you don't mind a supreme court that overturns Roe v Wade, a indefinite presence in Iraq, and probably a war with Iran.

Those things all will happen if McCain wins. If you sit home on election day and not vote for whomever the Democratic party nominee is, and McCain wins your state by one vote, take a good look in the mirror.

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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:10 PM
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3. Or you could vote for Hillary and end up with the same result.
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:12 PM
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12. You've got some evidence she's out to overturn Roe Vs. Wade?
Like I said, we heard the same kind of crap from Nader supporters back in 2000, when they claimed Gore and Bush were just the same.

How did that turn out?

Hmmmmmm?

From an Obama Supporter
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:45 PM
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30. She's not out to overturn it. She just won't have the juice to stop it.
The party is going to need someone with coattails. She's alienated half of the party already. What kind of coattails do you think a stolen nomination will garner? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:54 PM
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34. If the Republicans decide to steal the election it's not going to matter
who the nominee is.

And as president, she'll have say over who gets on the supreme court. She'll have plenty of "juice" for that.

Go ahead. Sit out the election if she gets the nomination. Just don't come boo-hooing here about McCain being the next president. You WON'T be popular.


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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:02 PM
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36. If she's the nominee then the repubs WILL win.
She won't have any sway over the sitting Court.
Fuck being popular! That's what made her a liar.
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:16 PM
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40. If McCain beats Clinton, it will quite possibly be because too many Obama
supporters spent the election sitting with their arms crossed and their lower lips sticking out instead of voting for the Democratic nominee.



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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:49 PM
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47. If Clinton gets the nomination it's because the nomination was stolen.
If I refuse to support that kind of corruption then I'm prepared to deal with the likes of you criticizing me for pouting or whatever else you wany to call it or whatever name you want to call me.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:14 PM
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39. The New York senator does not appoint Supreme Court justices.
And since that's the next office she'll be running for, whether he votes for her or not has nothing to do with who gets on the Supreme Court.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:47 AM
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54. she won't get it so its a moot point.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:09 PM
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2. If she's the nominee (which she won't be),
then I'll vote for her, but after holding my nose and grinding my teeth.

I hope it doesn't come to that, though.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:10 PM
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4. am i remembering correctly that you've never liked her anyway?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:10 PM
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5. I see what she said nothing short of a betrayal - a betrayal of us - of DU.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 09:10 PM by sparosnare
Do you remember WHY this message board was created? The pain surrounding the 2000 election? After what Hillary said tonight, I don't think I could ever vote for her either; I hope to god I don't have to make that choice.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:11 PM
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10. Wow, that's a lot of hyperbole. I'm not in your "us" group, either.
Speak for yourself.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:27 PM
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26. Try reading the About section sometime. It's not hyperbole.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 09:27 PM by Zhade
Skinner et al created this place as a protest against the theft of Gore's presidential seat.

If you don't agree with that fact, you're on the wrong board.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:27 PM
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27. I was reflecting on the reasons why this message board was created.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 09:30 PM by sparosnare
You may not have been a part of it, but a great many of us were. Show some respect.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:28 AM
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55. No, YOU show some respect.
For a Democratic candidate who has been with the party through thick and thin, over the course of MANY DECADES.

BTW, I have been here MUCH longer than my profile indicates. I was one of the earlier members, but my computer crashed and I rarely posted because it wasn't a smart thing to do whilst working. I also changed email providers so I couldn't retrieve my details.

Way to play the "I've been here longer than YOU" game. Christ, no wonder there's no substantive discussion here anymore, with that kind of, dare I say, ELITIST, carping....
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:19 PM
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52. I must have missed it.
Can someone fill me in on what she said?
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:10 PM
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6. cut off your nose to spite the country
Yep. You must be a ralph nader person or someone wet behind the ears.

Get out of politics now and save us the whining.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:10 PM
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7. thankfully you wont have to.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:11 PM
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11. My thoughts exactly n/t
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:10 PM
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8. Then there's no way I'll vote for Obama then.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:18 PM
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43. What's Your Reason
because he called her Annie Oakley?
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:20 PM
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53. ok bye.
prepare to be made irrelevant
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:11 PM
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9. there is no democrat that is safe...
from the likes of Hillary Clinton.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:14 PM
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13. And you would have before tonight? Interesting.....
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:15 PM
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14. John McCain thanks you.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:22 PM
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23. Is there REALLY a difference???
Not in the rhetoric, but in the ACTIONS?

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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:42 PM
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29. Yes.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:46 PM
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31. YES n/t
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:51 PM
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49. No.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:16 PM
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15. You weren't supporting or voting for her anyway.
:eyes:
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:16 PM
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16. Clinton will not be the nominee. For those who cannot vote for Obama
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 09:16 PM by featherman
when he is nominated, good bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out. As it is 10-12% of registered Dems vote GOP anyway. What's a few more DU ideologues? And about 50% of those of eligible voting age don't vote either.

These huffy threats are silly. Personally, I'm just going to hold my breath until I turn blue.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:16 PM
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17. John McCain thanks you, and so does a right wing supreme court.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:28 PM
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28. McLame thanks clinton for her endorsement too, I'll bet.
NT!

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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:17 PM
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18. I think she's always been like this...she didn't hesitate a moment to kneecap Kerry, either.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:17 PM
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19. Don't worry, it's a non-issue.
She's not going to be the nominee.

Wonder what the superdelegates thought about Hillary's dissing of the main party elder.
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:18 PM
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20. In other words...
...you're saying you'd rather have a Publican appoint all these folks?


... Cabinet Secretaries for the following Executive Branch departments

Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of Education
Department of Energy
Department of Health & Human Services
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Housing & Urban Development
Department of Justice
Department of Labor
Department of State
Department of The Interior
Department of Transportation
Department of Veterans Affairs
Department of the Treasury

... candidates for the following Judicial Branch positions

Court of Appeals for Veterans' Claims
Federal Judicial Center
Superior Court Judges
U.S. Circuit Court Judges
U.S. Claims Court Judges
U.S. Court of International Trade Judges
U.S. District Court Judges
U.S. Supreme Court Judges
Territorial Courts
Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces
U.S. Court of Federal Claims
U.S. Court of International Trade
U.S. Supreme Court
U.S. Tax Court
United States Bankruptcy Courts
United States Courts of Appeals
United States District Courts
United States Sentencing Commission

... the heads of the following Regulatory Agencies

Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service
Consumer Product Safety Commission
Drug Enforcement Administration
Employee Benefits Security Administration
Environmental Protection Agency
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
Federal Communications Commission
Federal Election Commission
Federal Emergency Management Agency
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
Federal Labor Relations Authority
Federal Trade Commission
Food & Drug Administration
Occupational Health & Safety Administration
Securities & Exchange Commission
(just to name a few--there are way more "smaller" agencies that still have a big impact in the areas they regulate)

None of us who love this country can afford to flounce off in a snit if our preferred candidate doesn't get the nomination.
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:20 PM
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21. She is bringing a lot of people to that point....
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 09:21 PM by Kaylee
I was shocked to hear this from my own parents. They are in their mid-sixties and had never missed voting....ever, but told me today that they would stay home if Hillary were the nominee. They were that disgusted with how she has run her campaign. I told them I completely understand where they are coming from, but gently reminded them that they have a granddaughter and grandson who are counting on them to make sure the next Supreme Court Justices are not rabid conservatives.

My parents are not overly political people, but they do watch the news and read the paper daily, so it shocked me that their anger at Hillary had reached that point.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:22 PM
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22. She has shown she is devoid of morals or values
The only thing that matters to her is POWER
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:59 PM
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35. And you know this because...?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:04 PM
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38. She has shown it by her words and actions
Like tonight when she threw the Democratic party under the bus, in the desperate hope she gets more votes
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:18 PM
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42. What did she say that "Threw the Democratic party under the bus"
and how did it accrue her more power?

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:20 PM
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44. Her implied insults of San Fran
her negative comments about Gore and Kerry. Her shameless attacks on Obama
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:25 PM
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45. Quotes please.
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:48 PM
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46. I just dug up the "implied negative" comments about San Francisco
she's supposed to have made and I have to tell you, I don't see how she is supposed to have "dissed" San Francisco. Nor can I quite fathom how those remarks indicate she "cares about nothing but power."

Care to enlighten me?


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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:16 PM
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56. chirp chirp chirp chirp
:)
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JasonHill Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:23 PM
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24. You should reconsider
despite all that has happened in this primary, with a Dem having the megaphone of the whitehouse it boosts the cause of Dems and liberalism overall. If Obama were to somehow lose the primary, instead of taking it out on the Dem candidate get active to change the party from within by organizing, etc. It's too important to let ego override eliminating the mess conservatives have left.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:25 PM
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25. No worries, she won't be.
But I hear you. Her constant lying means I could never support her (though I didn't before) - I don't endorse liars.

Happily, it's essentially over for her. All that's left is for her to accept her loss.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:46 PM
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32. Grand, so you are voting for McCain? Wow. nt
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:47 PM
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33. Moot point. She's done.
Really
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:03 PM
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37. Sorry, I disagree
I'll vote for her if she's the nominee, no matter how many clothespins it takes. No Repug president for me.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:17 PM
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41. Every time she does something despicable, I think there's no way she could go lower.
And then she does.
It's sad really.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:50 PM
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48. 2 to 3 supreme court nominees in the next 4 to 8 years
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 10:53 PM by Kber
On edit - I was totally tasteless and apologize for my most current lapse in judgment. Sorry folks.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:52 PM
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50. I hear you, but anyone not voting for the eventual Democratic nominee is a jackass...
.... But I hear you about her sleazy-ass campaign.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:18 PM
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51. Think about President McGramps in the White House for a while and then come back
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