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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:38 PM
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Bush misled the nation about the threat Iraq posed. But so did the Clinton administration.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 10:46 PM by madfloridian
Many of the Democratic candidates in the 2004 primary said they were urged by advisors from the Clinton administration to support giving George Bush authority to use arms in Iraq. Bill Clinton himself said he approved of what Bush was doing as late as 2004. Senator Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War Resolution.

This is a long article from Mother Jones back in 2004. It will be hard to choose just some excerpts.

A Legacy of Lies

Faced with the need to justify an economically devastating and internationally unpopular embargo of Iraq, the Clinton administration engaged in a pattern of stretching and distorting weapons data to bolster their claim that Saddam Hussein was still hiding an illicit arsenal. The Clinton White House never used that "intelligence" to push for an invasion of Iraq, as Bush so effectively did. But in its desperate quest to salvage a crumbling Iraq policy, the Clinton White House laid the groundwork for the deceptions of their successors.

In a November 1997 Sunday morning appearance on ABC, Defense Secretary William Cohen held up a five-pound bag of sugar for the cameras to dramatize the threat of Iraqi anthrax: "This amount of anthrax could be spread over a city -- let's say the size of Washington. It would destroy at least half the population of that city. One breath and you are likely to face death within five days."

"It could wipe out populations of whole countries!" Cokie Roberts gasped as Cohen described the Iraqi arsenal. "Millions, millions," Cohen responded, "if it were properly dispersed."


A year later, at a nationally televised town hall meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright brought home the dangers: "Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face. The evidence is strong that Iraq continues to hide prohibited weapons and materials."


The article goes into the UN testimony of Hussein Kamel about the destruction of the weapons in the early 90s. It is pretty long, and we have cover it here before. Here is part though that I never saw.

There is now little doubt that Kamel was telling the truth. The strongest evidence -- evidence so unimpeachable it invites the word "proof" -- came in the form of a captured Iraqi document obtained in January by Barton Gellman of The Washington Post. The memo was composed five days after Kamel's defection, on August 13, 1995, and its author was Hossam Amin, Iraq's chief liaison to the U.N. inspectors. It was addressed to Qusay Hussein, Saddam's son. The letter was a piece of damage assessment. Kamel was expected to blow all Iraq's cover stories to the inspectors, and the regime needed to prepare itself for the fallout. So Amin proceeded to lay out for his boss, in minute detail, two separate storylines: The version Iraq had told the inspectors about each weapons program, and what the truth was. (Or, as the memo itself put it: "the matters that are known to the traitor and not declared" to the U.N.)

Among the memo's statements of fact was that "destruction of the biological weapons agents took place in the summer of 1991" In a comprehensive evaluation of the evidence, Gellman stood Kamel's 1995 briefing to the U.N. against the real story laid out in Amin's memo. The comparison, he concluded, "suggests that Kamel left little or nothing out."


Iraq had eliminated all its weapons of mass destruction by the summer of 1991, and the U.S. had been told of it in 1995. The rest is history.

I posted not long ago an article that was written in September 2002 before the vote on the IWR. It was written by Jay Bookman, an editor of the Atlanta Journal Constitution. We talked of here at DU then. It was like a ray of hope for us.

We even thought we could get Congress to listen after some other articles came out. But we could not. They did not pay attention to the hundreds of thousands of marchers, the calls, the emails. They voted on to give Bush that awesome power in early October 2002.

Here is the column which is now at the Information Clearing House. Still available after all these years.

The president's real goal in Iraq

The official story on Iraq has never made sense. The connection that the Bush administration has tried to draw between Iraq and al-Qaida has always seemed contrived and artificial. In fact, it was hard to believe that smart people in the Bush administration would start a major war based on such flimsy evidence. The pieces just didn't fit. Something else had to be going on; something was missing. In recent days, those missing pieces have finally begun to fall into place. As it turns out, this is not really about Iraq. It is not about weapons of mass destruction, or terrorism, or Saddam, or U.N. resolutions.

This war, should it come, is intended to mark the official emergence of the United States as a full-fledged global empire, seizing sole responsibility and authority as planetary policeman. It would be the culmination of a plan 10 years or more in the making, carried out by those who believe the United States must seize the opportunity for global domination, even if it means becoming the "American imperialists" that our enemies always claimed we were.


Bookman quoted Donald Kagan as saying we were "Gary Cooper."

"If our allies want a free ride, and they probably will, we can't stop that," he says. But he also argues that the United States, given its unique position, has no choice but to act anyway.

"You saw the movie 'High Noon'? he asks. "We're Gary Cooper."

Accepting the Cooper role would be an historic change in who we are as a nation, and in how we operate in the international arena.


It did change who we are as a nation. It changed our party to the extent that many have never been willing to accept their flawed role in giving an incompetent president such power.

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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:44 PM
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1. Whoa a substantive post in here. How refreshing.
Its also a really good point. There are major problems in Washington's global thinking going back a long way and much of it involves Democrats as well as Republicans.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:50 PM
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2. Shh..hh don't say that out loud.
Dooms a post to failure here. But thanks anyway. :hi:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:42 PM
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25. Madfloridian's posts are ALWAYS sig--oops.
Sorry-didn't mean to let the cat out of the bag.

Anyway, this is another example of why I've always claimed that, except for the brief and ineffectual reign of Jimmy Carter, this country has been under Republican rule since 1969.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:48 PM
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26. Under Republican rule...basically...
It seems that way. The GOP clings to their base and supports them.

The Democrats have avoided their base like a plague since the DLC co-opted the agenda in the 80s.

In fact, just this week, Will Marshall of PPI/DLC said Democrats must "emphatically distance themselves from the left’s antics and excesses"

The party has traditionally ignored those of us in the middle and more to the left. They have made us sound irrelevant and annoying.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:50 PM
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3. From 2003: A think tank war. Why old Europe says no. (They knew...why didn't we)
This is from the Sydney Morning Herald on March 7, 2003. It was just a couple of weeks before we invaded and bombed Iraq.

A think tank war: Why old Europe says no

The article is translated from German, originally on Der Spiegel.

It was in no way a conspiracy. As far back as 1998, ultra right US think tanks had developed and published plans for an era of US world domination, sidelining the UN and attacking Iraq. These people were not taken seriously. But now they are calling the tune. German commentators and correspondents have been confused. Washington has tossed around so many types of reasons for war on Baghdad "that it could make the rest of the world dizzy", said the South German Times.

So it goes. Across the world critics of President Bush are convinced that a second Gulf War is actually about replacing Saddam, whether the dictator is involved with WMD or not. "It's not about his WMD," writes the German born Israeli peace campaigner, Uri Avnery, "its purely a war about world domination, in business, politics, defence and culture".

There are real models for this. They were already under development by far right Think Tanks in the 1990s, organisations in which cold-war warriors from the inner circle of the secret services, from evangelical churches, from weapons corporations and oil companies forged shocking plans for a new world order. In the plans of these hawks a doctrine of "might is right" would operate, and the mightiest of course would be the last superpower, America.


The article points out that as soon as Bush got into office, he drew the hardcore PNAC folks into his administration.

A son of a bitch, but our son of a bitch

Of course the claims of Iraqi control of the 11 September hijackers never were proven, just like the assumption that Saddam was involved with the anthrax letters (they proved to be from sources in the US Military). But regardless, Richard Perle claimed in a TV interview that "there can be no victory in the war on terror if Saddam remains in power".

The dictator, demanded Perle, must be deposed by the US as a matter of priority "because he symbolises contempt for all Western values". But Saddam had always been that way, even when he gained power in Iraq with US backing. At that time a Secret Service officer from the US embassy in Baghdad reported to CIA Headquarters: "I know Saddam is a son of a bitch, but he is our son of a bitch". And after the US had supported the dictator in his war with Iran, the retired CIA Director Robert Gates says he had no illusions about Saddam. The dictator, says Gates "was never a reformer, never a democrat, just a common criminal".


This is worth a read.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:48 AM
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10. "Control the flow of oil, control your rivals"
"Control the flow of oil, control your rivals"

This so called pre-emptive war that the PNAC ideologues have longed for against Iraq also serves, in the judgement of Uri Avnery, to take the battle to Europe and Japan. It brings US dominance of Eurasia closer.

Avnery notes:

"American occupation of Iraq would secure US control not only of the extensive oil reserves of Iraq, but also the oil of the Caspian Sea and the Gulf States. With control of the supply of oil the US can stall the economies of Germany, France and Japan at will, just by manipulating the oil price. A lower price would damage Russia, a higher one would shaft Germany and Japan. That's why preventing this war is essential to Europe's interests, apart from Europeans' deep desire for peace."

"Washington has never been shy about its desire to tame Europe," argues Avnery. In order to implement his plans for world dominance, says Avnery, "Bush is prepared to spill immense quantities of blood, so long as it's not American blood"."

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/07/1046826528748.html

We all knew but no one listened.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:00 AM
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4. Clinton
And yet, Bill Clinton never invaded Iraq. I think it was Bush who did that. Clever, that Bill.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:11 AM
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5. I believe I made that clear.
That he did not invade them. But he did not speak up. He could have made a big difference. People would have listened.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:14 AM
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7. protocol
On the eve of the invasion, I don't think any other living president voiced opposition. I think it has something to do with protocol.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:19 AM
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8. Did you read my OP?
It went so much deeper than that. Read what Cohen and Albright said. Read what Bill Clinton said in 2004...that he approved of what Bush was doing.

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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:48 AM
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9. links
I re-read the article cited, and utilized the link to your journal. You mention in the first paragraph of your OP that "Bill Clinton himself said he approved of what Bush was doing as late as 2004." I see nothing to substantiate this. I guess I'm just tired of the efforts of some to rewrite history. I don't for a minute blame the Clintons for Iraq. We should all read a good history book to find out who has really been oppressing us all these years.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:55 AM
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11. Well, alrighty then. I will get it for you now. Hang on.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:12 AM
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12. good try
From the link: ""I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over," Clinton said in a Time magazine interview that will hit newsstands Monday, a day before the publication of his book "My Life." " Further down, the article states that "Pressed on whether the Iraq war was worth the cost to the United States, Clinton said he would not have undertaken the war until after U.N. chief weapons inspector Hans Blix "finished his job."" The article further states that Clinton disagreed with the timing and logistics of the war, and the article mentions his abhorrance of Abu Grahib torture in two different paragraphs. I'd say his endorsement of Bush's Iraq policy was pretty hollow; something a former president might say out of protocol when pushed by the media to comment on something he did NOT agree with.

But you know your base; they're either too young or too unquestioning not to absorb the drivel you feed them on the internet. Thank God the Obama campaign has not gone negative.



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:16 AM
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13. Bill Clinton could have stopped this damn war. And stop the age stuff.
I am a senior citizen, retired teacher. I have intelligence.

I despise people here who talk to me as if I am a fool. And there is a little button I push where I don't see them anymore.

By now.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:38 AM
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18. By now?
Retired teacher, indeed.
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JasonHill Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:45 AM
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22. Your arrogance and condescension is revolting
Besides being politically foolish it speaks to the overall nature of what type of human being you are.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:49 AM
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23. I am so glad...
I can not see what was said about me in that post. Probably a good thing. Things get ugly around here when uncomfortable things are confronted.

:hi:
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:37 PM
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36. cowardly
I'm not tying to foist the responsibility for a devastating, expensive and bloody war on people who don't deserve that mantle. That's cowardly.
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JasonHill Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:41 AM
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21. Classic Doublespeak
He is saying he supports the war despite not wanting to go in without UN authorization. If he didn't, he wouldn't have been "defending Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over." He is framing it so he has it both ways, like all of the Dem IWR voters did. If the war failed, he could say "AHA i wanted inspectors! Bush didn't follow my plan" and if it succeeded he could champion how "strong on defence" he is and tie it with the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, which gave Neoconservatives political cover to attack Bill and Dems as hypocrites regardless of it not explicitly authorizing war
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:06 PM
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24. There is so much of that doublespeak even now.
It comes from our Democratic strategists on TV, fearful of being too honest. It comes from the media which is frozen in time in mediocrity and stupidity.

I really despair now.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:16 PM
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33. Bill
Yes, but he was careful to point out that he disagreed with the timing, execution and torture. Saying that we didn't give the inspectors a chance was his way of saying that we attacked prematurely and without reason. Remember, the press was probably pressuring him to give his opinion on the war.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:13 AM
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6. Of course, hil and bil clinton were pushing this
War On Iraq along with the bushites..I remember being very pissed at them and that was just the beginning.

Thanks, mad, for doing all this investigative work for us to refresh our memories.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:17 AM
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14. Facts don't matter.
I post facts and get argued with.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:20 AM
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15. Yeah, cause I see you're
getting "argued" with my Ignores. And, believe me..they're on Ignore for a reason. They don't appreciate facts but the majority on DU does.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:25 AM
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16. We must share some of them.
Facts do not matter here anymore. I have links, facts, sources. Doesn't matter.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:53 PM
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35. Right..all we can do is
keep trying and sometimes it might look like we're getting nowhere fast but all of sudden something happens and we're glad we kept making the effort.

Hang in there, mad..I'm trying to, too. :hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:27 AM
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40. DU is once again being the battleground forum to attack a candidate
Last time it was Dean, this time it is Obama.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:28 AM
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17. Good point.
The Clintons kept up the sanctions, bombing raids and Saddam scares through both terms, making things easier for their adopted brother Dumya.

:mad:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:33 AM
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19. We in effect destroyed a country in two ways.
by sanctions and by war.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:22 AM
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20. Rewriting Iraq's history for Iraqi textbooks...are we invaders or liberators?
That is the kind of situation we are in now. This article is from November 2003, and it tells how the textbooks are already being rewritten to change the history of Iraq to suit the purpose of its occupiers.

A New History of Iraq.

From The Guardian.

Revision of Iraqi textbooks is one example of the prickly partnership between the Iraqis and the consortium of mostly US groups rebuilding the schools. While US officials don't want to be seen as meddling in what Iraqis learn, they don't want the possible alternative: funding textbooks that are anti-semitic, anti-American or radically religious, particularly given the strict separation of church and state-sponsored schools in the US.

"We considered anything anti-American to be propaganda," said Fuad Hussein, head of textbook revision for the ministry of education. "When we couldn't reach an agreement, we just took it out." He said teachers will have to decide how to treat controversial issues like the rise of the Ba'ath party, the bloody crackdown on the Shias, and accusations that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.


The State Dept representative even agreed to call our presence there an invasion.

The US officials say most curriculum decisions will be made after the civilian government leaves Iraq, and that they will play a limited role- unless things go in a direction they don't approve of.

"We will strongly recommend concepts of tolerance, and be against anything that is anti-semitic or anti-west - content that would sow the seeds for future intolerance," said Gregg Sullivan, spokesman for the Near Eastern Affairs Bureau of the state department. "We'd hope it's only an advisory role, but if something develops that's disadvantageous to the Iraqi people, we'd weigh in on a stronger level."

When asked, for example, whether future Iraqi history texts should refer to the US's presence as an "invasion" or a "liberation", Sullivan said: "I haven't heard that we have a problem with the word 'invasion'. It was an invasion - for the liberation of the Iraqi people. I'd hope the texts would give it some positive connotations."


We never did get the story straight. Which companies profitted, I wonder?

I wonder how we will rewrite our own textbooks about this invasion.


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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:56 PM
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27. Yes, this is true. Yet another chapter in Bill Clinton's conservative legacy. n/t
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 12:57 PM by invictus
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:55 PM
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32. No one wants to admit it.
It took me a long time to catch on. But facts do matter.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:01 PM
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28. K&R!
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 01:07 PM by junofeb
History has far deeper roots than many will admit. GWbush didn't occur in a vacuum. Intentionally or not (although the former would hold no surprises for me), Bill helped build the scaffold we are now about to hang from. If Iraq had been cleared of WMD in 95, why was the fear of Iraqi WMD angle being exploited in 97? If Bill was so great why did he continue to bomb and starve a defeated country causing the deaths of at least half a million children and the suffering of a hell of a lot more? To which his pet Madeline purred, "We think it is worth it."


I always considered myself very well informed, even in the 90s at my least political I subscribed to the Nation and Mother Jones for a number of years. Maybe it was battle fatigue of having lived through 12 years prior, but the implications of much of it went right over my head at the time. Of course, it was just a kinder, gentler uptick of the hysteria generated by Ronnie and GH, but what sucks is that at anytime Bill was obviously free to stop playing the game.

Bill could have said, "well, Iraq is disarmed, perhaps there is a peaceful solution"

He could have said, "Iraq is disarmed, you're safe now from that threat"

He could have stopped the bombing and the starving of children thru sanctions on FOOD AND MEDICINE!

But he let his minions say "Look closely at this scary sugar bag. If we don't bomb these people, this will happen to you."

Bill never got to the bottom of BCCI and all those other Ronnie/GW scandals.

This is all coming back to bite us. Amazing how a few years distance in perspective reveals such panoramic view of things.

edit to add: darn spellcheck made my misspelling worse!:)


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:13 PM
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29. Wow...your words are powerful. I agree. I quote you:
"Bill could have said, "well, Iraq is disarmed, perhaps there is a peaceful solution"

He could have said, "Iraq is disarmed, you're safe now from that threat"

He could have stopped the bombing and the starving of children thru sanctions on FOOD AND MEDICINE!

But he let his minions say "Look closely at this scary sugar bag. If we don't bomb these people, this will happen to you."


Yes, his admin encouraged us to look at the scary sugar bag.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:42 PM
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30. Thank you
:hi:


That is high praise indeed coming from a DU'er I very much respect.

I've been following your journals, especially ones about the Florida primary ruckus.

Please keep up the informative and thought-provoking posts. As I told someone else today, I learn new things from the others here, and that is what attracted me to this place in the beginning.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:26 PM
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31. Appreciate the kind words.
The Florida debacle has been my passion. In the long run though, the lies won out. :shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:57 PM
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34. "Bill could have said, "well, Iraq is disarmed, perhaps there is a peaceful solution"
I wish he had said that instead of going along.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:55 PM
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37. madfloridian! You're kicking butt here
If I may say that. Thank you for your thoughtful and intelligent posts. Bookmarked for further reading. :toast:

p.s., It's stuff like this that makes me go all :tinfoilhat: ~~ it just all seems too contrived or something. Hard ot put my finger on it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:28 PM
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38. I am really angry. People let them get away with pretending
they opposed the war.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:09 PM
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39. We can expect nothing less from Mama Warbucks
WHO GETS WHAT
Senator Hillary Clinton may never see New York return to its glory days of defense contracting, when it was known as the "cradle of aviation." But she's trying. In fiscal 2003—before Clinton got her spot on the committee—New York ranked 13 out of 50 states in contracts, with $4.3 billion. Today, the latest statistics show that the Empire State has nudged up a point to 12 in the nation, with $5.2 billion in procurements.

Maybe it's a coincidence. Or maybe not. Many senators on Armed Services hail from the states ranking highest in Pentagon money. Here is a list of the top 10 states receiving defense contracts in fiscal 2004; also noted is whether the state has anyone on the committee:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. California, received $27.9 billion
2. Virginia, $23.5 billion, represented by Senator John Warner, the majority chairman
3. Texas, $21 billion, Senator John Cornyn
4. Maryland, $9.2 billion
5. Connecticut, $9 billion, Senator Joe Lieberman
6. Arizona, $8.43 billion, Senator John McCain
7. Florida, $8.4 billion, Senator Bill Nelson
8. Massachusetts, $7 billion, Senator Edward Kennedy
9. Missouri, $6.5 billion, Senator James Talent
10. Pennsylvania, $6.2 billion


http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0518,lombardi,63597,5.html
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