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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:13 AM
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if obama is an inexperienced, elitist, anti-church, anti-american, sexist, stereotyping snob, ...
and hillary is down-to-earth, religious, right on every issue, experienced and ready on day one, ...



why is this primary race even close?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:15 AM
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1. Ooh Ooh! Let me predict the answer!
I look into my crystal ball and I see...


MEDIA BIAS!!!!

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:16 AM
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2. because it's not fair!
The MSM is against her.

And because she sucks as a campaigner, has no charisma whatsoever and is more velco than teflon.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:19 AM
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3. little off topic, but did anybody see David Axelrod's blistering defense then Assault on HIllary?
Pure brilliance.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:22 AM
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5. David 'lets play the race card against the Clintons' Axelrod. That Axelrod?
His 'brilliance' is why Obama is where he is today. Axelrod truly knows how to pump up the hate.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:26 AM
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6. LOL!! Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is
an excellent campaigner and that Hills is a sucky one. She's the velcro candidate. She has the charisma of Michael Dukakis and Richard Nixon.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:41 AM
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8. she did the impossible
she proved nixon wasnt the lowest slug american politics would produce
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:06 AM
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13. now that's going quite a bit too far
in any other election season i'd be strongly for hillary, and i'll back her happily if she pulls off a win somehow.
the fact of the matter is she'd make a great president. i'm in the obama camp more for the sake of party unity than for any strong conviction that he'd be a better president. i agonized over my choice when the primaries came to connecticut.

jon stewart said it best:

The thing that people I guess shouldn't lose focus of is either way this is an historic race. You have done better than any woman in the history of this country running for the highest office of this land. (Applause.) Barack Obama has done the same for African-Americans. It's almost whoever wins or loses, it's almost like in 1941, this is a stupid analogy so bear with me. In 1941 Ted Williams hit .400. Nobody has done that since in baseball but that year he didn't win the Most Valuable Player because Joe DiMaggio had a 56-game hitting streak. I feel like we as Americans are watching two historical figures battle it out. I don't know if people will be able to appreciate that because it's unfortunately one of you guys is going to have to yield to the other."

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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:04 AM
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12. The Clintons played that race card themselves
using deploring race-baiting tactics. Don't even try to spin here that it was the other way around. Too many of us here know the truth re your despicable candidate.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:34 AM
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17. Hillary gave LBJ due credit for his part in passing civil-rights legislation. Obama screamed racism.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 07:34 AM by Maribelle
"Insidious pattern" thy name is Axelrod. Obama was the first to play the race card under the tutelage of Axelrod. Patrick was the first to play the race card under the tutelage of Axelrod. Fattah was the first to play the race card under the tutelage of Axelrod.


Do see the insidious pattern here?


Obama was the first to play the race card

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/currents/20080330_Obama_was_the_first_to_play_the_race_card.html?text=reg

How Barack Obama played the race card and blamed Hillary Clinton

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304


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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:40 AM
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19. Hillary was a fucking moron to try to compare LBJ to MLK.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 07:41 AM by JVS
Memo to anyone who doesn't want to piss off black voters: When the topic of MLK arises, the proper response is "He was a great and inspirational leader. America lost a great man when he was assassinated." That's it. Obama didn't need to say a thing, the shit was already out of the horse.

In a similar vein, when talking about Hitler, discussion of his lowering of German unemployment isn't going to help you with anyone. Make sure to say "Absolutely evil man"
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:05 PM
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23. Do you have a quote that backs up what you're saying?
Do you have a quote that demonstrates Obama "playing the race card"? I hope you do, because every time I ask for a quote to support this contention, I never get one.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:21 AM
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4. And if Hillary were so evil, it wouldn't be a close race. So evidently, Hillary is not evil.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 06:22 AM by Perry Logan
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:40 AM
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7. Wake up sweetie! The race is not close! The massive
wins she would need in the remaining states prove that. If she was almost tied then a win in PA should win her the nomination. It won't because she is not even close to him. He has always been in the lead in delegates and will continue to lead in delegates.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:43 AM
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10. The OP says it's close. You guys need to get your story straight.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:02 AM
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11. i didn't say it was close.
i said that if you believed all the anti-obama crap and hillary is ultra-fantastic stuff coming from her campaign, you would think hillary would be clobbering obama, that it would be a rout. it's the clinton side who claims the race is close, hence the question. if they think clinton is so much better and obama is not remotely ready, and yet they think the race is close, how do they reconcile these views? how do they think obama managed to even get close to clinton if she's so superior?

in fact, hillary is clearly losing and has maybe a 5% chance to win. realistically, she needs obama to self-destruct, which is why they are pouncing on anything remotely gaffe-like.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:14 PM
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24. One can be evil and a shitty campaigner at the same time.
Look at Rudy Giuliani.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:43 AM
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9. "It's like my mom says,
'The weak are always trying to sabotage the strong'." -- Tracy Flick; "Election"
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:12 AM
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16. BWA!
:rofl:

She gets more Flickish with each passing day.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:10 AM
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14. He's also evil.
I know some will never forgive his supporters or the party for nominating such an evil, empt suit.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:11 AM
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15. because Obama is the messiah you forgot that one.
Messiah trumps all else.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:35 AM
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18. Umm. it isn't close... Obama has an insurmountable lead.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:59 PM
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20. re-read the op
i meant, if you believed all the anti-obama and pro-clinton stuff, you would think she would be crushing him.

if she were THAT much better than him, she would be clobbering him.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:00 PM
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21. Because the rightwing media is shillng for Obama!
:rofl:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:02 PM
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22. He came out of nowhere based on fluffy speeches. Now that he is actually speaking and answering
questions, he doesn't have David Axelrod's script to go off of.

We are learning more and more, hopefully it's in time.
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