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Wed Jun-16-04 09:22 AM
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Poll question: Clark for VP Supporters: Will you vote for Kerry if he picks Edwards? |
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Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 09:24 AM by JohnLocke
Please ONLY vote in this poll if you support Gen. Clark for vice president.
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Wed Jun-16-04 09:24 AM
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Wed Jun-16-04 09:25 AM
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2. One Clark supporter said he wouldn't, so I ran this poll to gauge support. |
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Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 09:27 AM by JohnLocke
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Wed Jun-16-04 10:08 AM
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8. He's (hopefully) the only one. |
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We Clark supporters are a pretty loyal bunch. Excepting the first week or two after his withdrawal, I've seen pretty solid support for Kerry, regardless of who he chooses as VP.
First and foremost, we want to win in November. Just because our guy isn't the nominee doesn't change that one iota.
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Wed Jun-16-04 12:21 PM
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13. Actually, it was a she |
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and that she is me. But I'm not a Democrat. I won't vote for Bush, either. I'll just write in a vote.
I can't vote for incompetance and I think Edwards would be just horrible in that role. He should have stayed in the Senate and learned something about the world outside of the United States.
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Wed Jun-16-04 04:31 PM
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26. Edwards is incompetent? |
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Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 04:37 PM by JohnLocke
Give me a break. :eyes:
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Sat Jun-19-04 02:16 PM
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46. So you will give your vote to Bush the incompetent |
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That would be the result of you vote
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Sat Jun-19-04 02:31 PM
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49. Doesn't look like we have much of a chance in Tennessee |
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So I wouldn't worry too much about Scoopie's vote. Besides she has a few months left to mull it over, right Scoop? ;)
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Wed Jun-16-04 09:25 AM
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I will be voting for Kerry even if he chose Bugs Bunny as his running mate. I HATE BUSH! Besides no one could be a more evil, corrupt liar than Cheney.
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Wed Jun-16-04 09:27 AM
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4. At this point I don't care who Kerry picks! |
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Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 09:31 AM by freetobegay
I am going to do something this election I have never done before. Thats vote a straight Democratic ticket!
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Wed Jun-16-04 09:33 AM
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5. Satan himself as VP would not stop me voting for Kerry!<eom> |
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Wed Jun-16-04 09:45 AM
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bush has promised to keep him as VP.
PS: Of course Clark supporters will vote for Kerry, even if he picks Edwards etc for VP. Clark would make a good Sec.of State, too.
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Wed Jun-16-04 01:06 PM
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Beating Bush has been my goal for over a year. We can always figure an alternative strategy after the election, but first things first. With all this WWII nostalgia lately, my analogy is this. FDR would worry about Stalin AFTER we got rid of Hitler. First things first.
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Sat Jun-19-04 02:18 PM
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Any thing or one is better than Bush
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Wed Jun-16-04 09:59 AM
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7. For the love of %)$&)*#!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I would wager a bet that the ONE "no" vote was someone's little idea of a joke, since no one bothered to reply and claim it.
Of COURSE we'll vote for a Kerry/Edwards ticket! We may be fanatic, but we're not insane!
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Wed Jun-16-04 12:23 PM
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to not like our choices.
It's a matter of taste.
And, as I've said, I'm not a Democrat. I'm an Independent and I hold no allegiance to either party shooting itself in the foot (and the country in the process).
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Wed Jun-16-04 10:10 AM
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I love Clark but this election is not about VP, it's about getting Bush and his right wingers out of office!
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Wed Jun-16-04 10:24 AM
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I know if Kerry picks Clark I will be 100% behind the man. And I hope that those who post negs daily here against Edwards will stop and get behind the Kerry/Edwards ticket if that is what Kerry picks.
And if he doesn't pick either one...then we still need to get behind Kerry and whoever.
And no...I didn't vote in this poll...I'ld leave that for Clark for VP supporters.
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Wed Jun-16-04 10:33 AM
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11. Just not Gephardt, please please pleeeeeeeeaaaase |
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I'll still vote for him. But mein gott, I hope he doesn't do anything so utterly tone deaf.
And I hope the stupid McCain thing is dead now.
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Wed Jun-16-04 11:23 AM
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Edwards or Clark, Kerry could do much, much worse.
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Sat Jun-19-04 02:19 PM
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48. The McCain thing is dead...he will be Bush's running partner |
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Wed Jun-16-04 12:26 PM
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15. Yes I'll Vote Kerry Edwards, But |
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I won't work nearly as hard for a Kerry/Edwards ticket as a Kerry/clark ticket. Just the way it is.
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Wed Jun-16-04 01:09 PM
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22. Dinger, I'm sort of on the same page as you are.... |
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Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 01:10 PM by Gloria
Maybe if my back is hurting I won't be able to go to the polls, which would get me off the hook...
It's bigger than Edwards, it's about Kerry's judgment and desire to do something that isn't pushed on him by party bigwigs. He said his VP would have to have foreign policy experience. If he caves on that, then I question his ability to stand tough on a lot of things.
If he introduced Clark as the next Sec. of State, sort of put a team out there, I could understand it. But if not, then I really think Kerry could lose it, because over the summer/fall there are so many things that Bush can manipulate to his advantage....Saddam, Osama, alerts/fear...all the things that Clark could debunk clearly.
My biggest problem is what goes on after the Convention with the money situation and without a really clear voice. Right now Clark goes on TV alot, but I would almost bet that he would be shut out by the media if he weren't named VP. And we'd lose that strong voice.........
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Wed Jun-16-04 12:26 PM
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I might do it as a Nader Trader, which is always a little iffy.
I think the only issue for the vast majority of Clark supporters is how hard they'd work for a Kerry with Edwards as his running mate. Real hard to get enthused about the possibility. But I also think that, in the final analysis, most of us would do what we can, just not with the same emotional commitment.
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Wed Jun-16-04 12:31 PM
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17. See... this sort of answers the |
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question I always get peppered with when I say I won't vote for Kerry/Edwards and that is "don't you know what's at stake?' Well, of course I do. But I simply cannot get behind a ticket I neither trust nor like. Kerry's fine. He's got experience and a world vision. I may not think he's the most exciting thing, but I can live just fine with experience and world vision. What I would have a hard time with is voting for the other half of that ticket - someone who is spun so hard that no one knows who he really is. I only yesterday found out from a friend in Raleigh that, up until he ran for Senate, he rarely voted if he voted at all. I just don't consider him a beacon of public service and I have a real, big problem with that.
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Wed Jun-16-04 12:38 PM
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As a fellow Clark supporter, I respect your dedication, but how can you look at Bush vs Edwards and feel any sort of conflict as to which one should occupy the White House?
I'm not fond of Edwards - I was in the beginning, and I grow less enchanted as the days go by, but Jeebus Pete, I'm not going to sit on my arse while the GOP puts me through another four years of their version of the corporate-american dream.
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Wed Jun-16-04 12:56 PM
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20. I'd be on the fence w/ Edwards, too |
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The extent of his misjudgement on Iraq staggers me, and I find nothing in him to offset that impression.
Everyone complained when the Democrats made their political compromise on the war resolution -- now you ask the voters to make the same mistake as the Congress. I'll give him a chance to tapdance out of it, but one of his supporters informed me that it was really a great sign strength that Edwards stood by his war vote.
Bottom line: my vote will not validate this war. Period.
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Wed Jun-16-04 08:56 PM
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35. I understand all the arguments |
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believe me, I do. But - maybe it was my upbringing or just being a stubborn Capricorn - I just cannot vote for someone I abhor even if he's just a slight touch better than a person I abhor more.
*sigh*
The good news for me is that ABC is reporting that Kerry's looking for FP experience in his choice: Nunn, Clark, Biden, etc. I could vote for ANY of those combinations without a second flicker of regret!! :)
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Wed Jun-16-04 09:25 PM
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37. Yeah, that's just the point |
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Kerry has said all along that the ability to serve immediately, with strong foreign policy credentials, is his FIRST priority.
Ill admit, I was sceptical at first. I thought, yeah sure... he's a politician, he'll do whatever he thinks he needs to to get elected. But slowly, between what Kerry has said, and what others have said for him (Kennedy for example), and the fact that he has had Clark speaking for him repeatedly, I have come to really believe he means what he said. I respect that tremendously.
And I really really want to respect Kerry. He's our only hope for November, and really for the eight years after that. I want him to be everything he can be.
But if he picks Edwards, I'll know he (Kerry) is a fake. My worst doubts will be confirmed. So it will be VERY hard for me to vote for Kerry with Edwards on the ticket, and VERY easy to rationalize that it won't matter in my state. Possibly anywhere.
And yet, I know Kerry on his worst day is many times better than Bush on his best, even if he were to betray my trust that he will live up to what he's promised. So yeah, I'll hold my nose and vote for him, if come Nov 2nd I think it makes a difference. But I can certainly understand those who won't.
Thankfully, I gotta believe it's not gonna come to that.
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Wed Jun-16-04 12:46 PM
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19. I am not aware of this info! |
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Are their facts re: Edwards not voting? Living in NC, I am quite interested in your friend's inside knowledge - any info would be appreciated.
I would indeed vote for John Edwards!
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Wed Jun-16-04 02:02 PM
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23. I'd vote against Bush and for Kerry if Kerry has Bozo as his running mate. |
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When you're in a state of emergency you don't screw around and vote for a third party or not vote at all. Ya gotta be nuts to do ANYTHING that might allow BushCo back into office.
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Wed Jun-16-04 02:32 PM
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24. I'm ABB but i hope like hell |
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it isn't Edwards, Vilsack, or (especially) Gep
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Wed Jun-16-04 03:07 PM
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25. I will absolutely vote for Kerry |
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no matter who he chooses as running mate. I would vote for him if he chose to run with Atilla the Hun. I may not be completely happy about it, but I will do it.
I voted for Nader last time, and I will not make that kind of mistake again in such a critical election year as this.
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Wed Jun-16-04 04:35 PM
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27. I will vote for Kerry even if he picks Lieberman, |
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which is only one step down from Edwards.
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but won't work for the Kerry campaign, will still be precint captain and get as many people registered to vote, but it will be that much more difficult in my area. I'll pay more attention to my campaign for school board. I can not campaign for Kerry/Edwards in my county, but I can for Kerry/Clark. Sorry.
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Wed Jun-16-04 05:45 PM
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If Kerry picks Edwards, it will trouble me a great deal about Kerry s judgement on his first important decision.
It will tell me he prefers style over substance.
It will also mean he lied, when he said his Veep would be ready to be Prez immediately, in an emergency.
So I have not decided; Hawaii is safe for Kerry...there is nothing Bush can do to win this state. Therefore, I just may not vote, or do a write-in. If I lived in a swing state, I probably would hold my nose & vote Kerry/Edwards.
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Wed Jun-16-04 06:49 PM
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31. Definitely going to vote for Kerry/Edwards if he's picked. |
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I want Clark to be the guy but not to the point where I'll act like a spoiled bitch if he isn't.
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I'd vote for Kerry if he picked Nixon as VP.
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Wed Jun-16-04 07:46 PM
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I'm not impresssed with Edwards -- he lacks both depth and experience -- but I'll vote for Kerry as long as his running mate is a carbon-based life form with a pulse and no Bush DNA.
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Wed Jun-16-04 08:52 PM
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34. Sure would. I prefer Clark, but Edwards is good |
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Saw him in NH, the only thing that holds me back with JRE is lack of FP experience, and I think that is critical with what Dickweed stirred up overseas. We have to be prepared for anything now, because we've done such a fine job winning those hearts and minds.
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Wed Jun-16-04 09:11 PM
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36. My vote's for Kerry, no matter what |
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I like Edwards a lot, but a Kerry/Clark ticket will swing more Independent and Republican votes. Plus, Clark's experience with world affairs makes me feel a lot more secure.
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Thu Jun-17-04 01:35 PM
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41. Edwards is good. Clark is excellent. |
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Just in general terms. In terms of this specific election, with national security such an important component, and Clark's experience, knowlege and most of all his willingness to hammer Cheney and Bush on their failings therein, he becomes by far the best choice.
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I'd be extremely reluctant to vote for a Kerry/Edwards ticket, even though I would simply end up voting for it because of my unyielding desire to prevent another 4 more years for Bush. But honestly, Edwards is a bit too conservative-in-disguise-ish for me.
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But, hell, I can say that about Kerry. Two pro-war senators on the ticket is a bit much to swallow.
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50. I will support JK!!!!!!!! |
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