Mccain/Hillary becoming a reality

[meow mix]

this will be the republican ticket after Oregon. mark my words.

[redqueen]

1. Hahahahahaha

That's funny.

But hey if by some miracle it did happen, that'd be a green light for Bob Barr's Libertarian run!

[pompano]

24. It would be funny...

to see the look on the faces if Lieberman and Lindsey's golden Gramp picked her as a running mate.

I would be laughing for decades, non stop.

[Cronus Protagonist]

2. I think it will be McCain/Lieberman on the GOP side

They might, just might, win MA with that ticket.

[DefenseLawyer]

3. Hillary's negatives among Republicans are probably in the 90s

That dog won't hunt.

[grantcart]

4. With her attacks not only on Obama but also Gore and Kerry you might be right

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aM9...



April 14 (Bloomberg) -- Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said her rival, Barack Obama, was repeating the mistakes of the party's last two losing presidential campaigns by describing some voters as ``bitter'' over their economic status.

`You know, the Democratic Party, to be very blunt about it, has been viewed as a party that didn't understand and respect the values and the way of life of so many of our fellow Americans,'' Clinton said. ``We had two very good men and men of faith run for president in 2000 and 2004. But large segments of the electorate concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or frankly respect their ways of life.''

Past Campaigns

Clinton was referring to former Vice President Al Gore, who lost to President George W. Bush in 2000, and Massachusetts Senator John Kerry, who failed to beat Bush four years later.

[TexanDem]

5. sorry to say I agree -- have thought that for some time...

I would predict if they teamed up together, they'd win the GE. What a horror story that would be!

[meow mix]

7. i think thats the scariest part, hillary would take her 23% with her

and no way for them to lose that being the case.

[Window]

12. The republicans are not that crazy about McWar, and they really hate Hillary.

How could that even begin to be a winning ticket?



Peace:thumbsup:

[meow mix]

16. republicans herd easily, huge drain of indys into the republican party, and hillarys 23%

mix it all up and witness the birth of a morgified republican frankenstein-party.

[biggerfishsmallpond]

25. If the goal is power

Who cares what party name is used?

Question, is power important to the Clintons?

I suspect the potential electoral gains would outweigh the potential losses. In fact the creation of new left or right wing parties would further enshrine the power of the center-right Republicrats. For the Clintons, it would be the ultimate FU to the Repubs, a take-over of their party. For the Repubs, I suspect the gamble would be that the move would do more damage to the Dems than themselves.

Now on the other hand, this sort of blatant move could be a good thing for the remaining Democratic party too, purging the corporatists, enabling more freely speaking the truth, and focusing, with renewed vigor on the future of the country, democracy and the planet.

especially if there is a "national emergency", I see this scenario as plausible.

[Window]

32. Perish the thought!

[grantcart]

6. Of course Lanny Davis was talking about this a year ago

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/12/AR2007011201956.html


McCain-Clinton '08?

The most important reason for a bipartisan presidency in 2008 is the need to find solutions to the war in Iraq and to avoid delaying the end of significant U.S. involvement over fear of partisan recriminations. Solving the dilemma of Iraq -- how to get U.S. troops out of harm's way in a civil war yet not leave behind a rogue state dominated by terrorists -- will require bipartisan effort and support.

A bipartisan administration is also essential for enacting new taxes. Most responsible political leaders in both parties know -- though few are willing to admit it publicly -- that there is no way to pay for the war in Iraq, even as it winds down, and reduce the deficit while also addressing health care, energy independence, global warming and Social Security other than by raising taxes. Only a bipartisan presidency pushing leaders on both sides of the aisle can make it possible to tackle that issue honestly.

So how do you put a bipartisan ticket together? Theodore Sorenson, speechwriter for President John F. Kennedy, wrote a book in 1984 describing the various ways it might be done.

There are any number of provocative possibilities for a bipartisan ticket in 2008. Imagine the buzz if Republican John McCain and Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton committed to making the other vice president in the event that either won the election

[AndyTiedye]

11. It Sucks, But…

If McCain is as unbeatable as he now appears, it might be the best deal we can get.
At least we'd get a Democrat in the White House after McCain kicks the bucket.
Otherwise, we're sure to get some Fundie nutbar.

Obama seems to have jumped the shark with this "bitterness" thing, and his lead over McCain has evaporated.
I'll vote for our nominee in the general election, but it doesn't look good for us.

[Window]

14. I think Sen. Obama will rebound from this like he always does.

Peace:thumbsup:

[Egnever]

22. jumped the shark?

apparently you arent watching the news coverage of this today. It looks more like Hillary shot herself in the foot yet again with her fake outrage and presented Obama with another oportunity to show just how full of shit she is.

[AndyTiedye]

23. But He Tanked in Polls Against McCain

Yes, I believe that Obama can still win the nomination, but can he win in November? (Yeah, I know she can't either).

[Egnever]

28. easily we havent even really had a chance yet to contrast with Mclame

when it comes you will have young vibrant obama talking truth inteligently to the american public alongside Mclame spinning like a top to try to hold onto his base with his hump back and cancer cheek.

We will win in a landslide. The only thing proping mcain up at the moment is hillary.

[meow mix]

17. seemed implausible, THEN

however this is wierd-world now.

[still_one]

8. Well if that happens, she is going to have trouble since she took HIS positions against Obama

[Poll_Blind]

9. If Sen. Clinton hadn't spent so much time publicly fluffing McCain's image, I'd disagree.

  But she did, many times, publicly. I think it's unlikely but far from being impossible. If that happens, expect a "night of the long knives" in the Democratic party that will go on for a few months as DLCers who support the joint ticket are not-so-politely asked to leave.

  Expect an ad campaign from the McCain/Clinton team in the GE the likes of which we have never seen, big business pouring millions and millions into the effort to keep Obama away from the White House.

  But also expect that the best, the very best, that the Democratic party has to offer will step up to help defeat them. Obama/Gore '08? Sound implausable? We live in some pretty implausable times.

  It would be the most riveting Presidential election in the history of the United States. I loves me some good drama, but not that much and not at the toll it might take.

PB

[meow mix]

10. "Obama/Gore '08? Sound implausable?"

good point, i like that ticket and wouldnt rule out anything in this one. its gone surreal

[mtnester]

13. Snap out of it..this will not happen

McCain will choose Romney or Lieberman or some other person, but it won't be Hillary. Condi maybe...but I doubt it. He is waiting to see if he will run against a woman or a black man, or a dual ticket, and will make the strategic choice then.

ALL that said, he may not even have the choice...the GOP will most likely rule that decision in a huge way, and it STILL won't be her.

Get a grip. Bookmarked.

[meow mix]

19. wait and see

thirst for power can make strange bedfellows..

[mtnester]

33. Maybe, but not impossible ones

w_o_n_'_t h_a_p_p_e_n

The GOP are haters...no matter what you think, let me make this clear...they will NOT ask a Democrat, who is a WOMAN, to be on that ticket as #2...nope, no nada nyet

Hell, John Kasich is probably being considered, and he used a "distraction announcement" to indicate he was going to run for Ohio Gov. I would imagine Haley Barbour is way up there. Cox, Thune, Crist, Sanford, Giuliani, Portman, Pawlenty, Romney...ALL are probably being considered heavily. THIN chance it will be Sara Palin, but I don't think so. I am guessing it will be a governor or ex member of the beltway, and very possibly Haley Barbour. It all depends on who our own party decides upon and will be totally strategic to that end.

Who it WON'T be is Hillary..and I think you know that.

[Marrah_G]

15. Flamebait n/t

[CreekDog]

18. i think this *effectively* is the ticket already

:shrug:

[Bensthename]

20. Some will think you are joking.. But you are right.

[Poll_Blind]

26. Ever since someone brought up the possibility I've watched the reactions here.

  At first, merely bringing up the possibility was met with the kind of reaction usually reserved for openly-spoken racial slurs or public declarations of pedophilia.

  And then, after Senator Clinton (and some of her surrogates) made uncomfortably-frank overtures and messages of support for McCain- while trashing Obama- the responses mostly became "This will never happen."

  After weeks and weeks of this intentional behavior by the Clinton campaign most of the comments are now "Nah, I don't think the Republican (not necessarily McCain) voters would buy into the concept."

  And this change, while essentially bolstering something I believe is possible, is still very shocking to me. I have never heard of a Democratic candidate who one could reasonably argue just might jump ship and join the Republican opponant.

  Yet people who propose this possibility are not speaking hyperbole. There is an arguable case to be made (both from McCain's own history trying to woo Kerry and Clinton's public stroking of McCain) that this is not so unthinkably far-fetched as it might have seemed a few months ago.

  And people are starting to recognize it as a possibility. If she's really not thinking about this herself, she should be terrified that Democrats have this perception and try to correct this. This is not a smear against Senator Clinton, this is a possibility whose seed has been watered and lit with her own words.

PB

[rucky]

21. I hope so.

So tens of thousands of Republicans will stay home in November.

[knixphan]

27. It's not as far-out as it seems....

[Lone_Star_Dem]

29. .

[auburngrad82]

30. The funny thing is conservatives hate McCain AND Clinton

So who in the GOP would be voting for them?

[AZBlue]

31. I posted something similar the other day and got the same reactions.

I still think it's a strong possibility though - glad to see I'm not the only one. I hope we're wrong, but at this point I think we should be prepared for it.