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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:25 AM
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Al Gore, John Kerry, found under Hillary campaign bus
Having watched politics as long as I have, I have to wonder if Hillary's comments about Al Gore and John Kerry seeming "out of touch" and therefore elitist were not (surprise) calculated.

Here are some thoughts on why she is choosing at this point to trot out this line of attack against Obama, in particular with regards to Al Gore.

1) She sees an opening in terms of getting a nice bump in popular vote out of Pennsylvania.
2) The more she can get people talking about Al Gore winning the popular vote, the more she can try to use that as an argument -- in the very long shot that she somehow pulls out the popular vote and Obama wins the delegate count.
3) She is clearly trying to pull the currently sidelined Al Gore into the fray and taint him as biased against her by making provocative statements about him -- and John Kerry. This allows her to moan to the press about how biased Al Gore is against her.

This is all about the convention folks, she still aims to take us all the way there. Don't be surprised if you find yourself under her campaign bus in the near future.

-Dave

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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:30 AM
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I've tried to stay away from all this for this very reason: I WILL vote for the Democrat
and I don't want to have to hold my nose to do it. But I have to say, I'm really starting to dislike this woman.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:30 AM
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1. Kerry endorsed Obama months ago ....
and Gore hasn't endorsed her, despite the fact that he was VP when she was First Lady. Why the hell wouldn't she through them under the bus? Give me a break!
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:36 AM
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4. Because
you do not throw former presidential nominees and leaders of your own party under the bus. Also, because they do not deserve it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:36 AM
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5. lol. another hillarian who thinks every politician
owes Hill. Why the hell should Gore endorse her, just because he was her HUSBAND'S VP?

Give me a break!
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:36 AM
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6. Why would she have to toss them though?
Does she have no class left at all?

What did Kerry do to her?

:shrug:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:39 AM
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10. Possibly because they're democrats.
Try throwing some Republicans under the bus.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:55 PM
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16. "Why the hell wouldn't she through them under the bus?"
Because they democrats.

:shrug:

Now kindly tell me why vice presidents should endorse first ladies, please.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:11 PM
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21. Hillary threw Kerry under the bus in Oct. '06. He owed her NOTHING. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:33 AM
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2. Did she name names when she made that comment?
I don't recall hearing them (but wasn't paying close attention).

If not, I'm guessing a lot of people didn't connect the dots (as they say) -- didn't give it much thought.

WE got it, but did the non-wonks?


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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:37 AM
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9. She refered to recent nominees
not much room left for interpretation.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:57 AM
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12. Agree -- but I'm thinking
a LOT of people won't even think about it -- or about whom she was referring.


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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:57 AM
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13. Agree -- but I'm thinking
a LOT of people won't even think about it -- about to whom she was referring.


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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:35 AM
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3. The Dems need to rise up and slap her down
She is out of control and extremely destructive. Time for the SDs to put an end to her antics.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:36 AM
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7. Al Gore, are you listening?! Please pick up the red phone . . .
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:49 PM
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14. She certainly gave him enough incentive to act
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:20 PM
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18. She sure did - if he's ever going to endorse Obama, as I expect he will, now's the time.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:37 AM
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8. Here's some useful links for you, dave....
And that Vanity Fair article slast year quoting Gore camp about the undermining they received in 2000 should really be added on here.

TeamClinton has sabotaged any Dem leader that came forward to oppose BushInc.

http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354


http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/


http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:54 AM
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11. thank you
I'll check them out as soon as possible
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:53 PM
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15. Her campaign bus pretty much ran over all progressives yesterday
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 12:55 PM by Cali_Democrat
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:55 PM
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17. bullshit, what she said was entirely accurate.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:00 PM
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20. He won the popular vote...
He did not lose the election... it was decided by the supreme court.

She said he lost, and tied that loss to a specific issue. She threw him under the bus.

vroom vroom.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:22 PM
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19. Add Nancy Pelosi
She sent her congressional district there too.
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