Obama looks upset on MSNBC

[RememberWellstone]

On the network live right now,is he grumpy or mad? You think he's feeling the pressure of his own words? Just a question.

[TexasLady]

1. hmm lemme see..

no.

[tridim]

2. He looks like he always does.

Presidential.

[RememberWellstone]

5. He stutters a lot.

You notice that about him?

[tridim]

26. Yep, just like all non-robotic candidates do.

I find it refreshing that he actually thinks about what he's saying.

[RememberWellstone]

37. Uhhhh...ok...mmmmmm...

thats good....uhhhhhhh...mmmmmmmm...annnnnndddddd....uhmmmmmmmm.

[Fearless]

41. How about Colombian $$$ angels dancing on the head of a pin??? HAHA!

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[movonne]

87. I really think you are a Obama fan...just trying to put us on...I can't

imagine Wellstone we be a hillary fan...

[MattBaggins]

116. I will concede that point to you

Hillary doesn't stumble at all when she speaks. She can spin yarns about dodging sniper fire and not misspeak a single syllable.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

134. *plonk*

[sunnystarr]

151. From Limbaugh to you to DU ...

Too funny that I caught Limbaugh making fun of Obama the same way when I was out running errands around the time you posted this.

[Fearless]

153. See everyone... told you so. I'm not the crazy one.

[RememberWellstone]

170. Oh boy...now I'm Limbaugh

Yeah..sure, I am glued to the radio all day long while I'm here in the office, my door shut, the lights are out. Is this what you do to every Hillary supporter? Call them Limpbaugh listeners? Unreal.

[RememberWellstone]

171. And what the pharq are you listening Limbaugh for?

To get hit points against Hillary? What the fuk? Why would you patronize that fat piece of shit? Seriously.

[sunnystarr]

175. I'm in Nashville and that's the only talk radio here

and my XM radio is broken but I'm cancelling it anyways since Randi found a better home. So it doesn't hurt to know what the nutcases are spouting when there's no other game in town.

[Kurovski]

161. Maybe he'll cry next. Or laugh. Or belt back a boilermaker.

He should check with his handlers to see what he should do.

Let us know.

[Condem]

66. Hillary's boring as hell as an orator

Notice that about her?

[RememberWellstone]

68. No

Not last night anyway. She was engaging, sincere and very heartfelt.

[tridim]

70. Give me one "engaging" comment she made last night.

Quickly now, no googling.

[RememberWellstone]

80. Personal faith

I felt she hit it right on the head. What I have is personal and I don't need to talk about it if I do not want to. But I should not be ashamed that I have personal belief system maybe not religious but it is personal.

[Condem]

82. And lets keep it personal, Remember

That's my point.

[Fearless]

84. So her refusing to answer a question was a talking point?

This country is screwed.

[RememberWellstone]

93. Personal means..............

Personal. How is the country screwed when you don't won't to wear a relgious label? God damn i am tired of all this relgious shit entering into politics. It has no business here. None. Answering a question be damned.

[Fearless]

102. It wasn't about religion... it was about the refusal to answer questions about religion.

I'm an atheist. I would be more than glad to have one as president. But, I do not want someone who has to hide their beliefs.

[Condem]

162. Thank you, RememberWellstone. I agrre 100%

[Condem]

73. C'mon , Remember

Both were boring. Religious faith is a boring issue.

[Fearless]

74. Oh please! She was practically crying... a sign of.... frustration perhaps...

You know... that frustration thing Obama is doing... huh?

[movonne]

79. How come he got the biggest appluse...and the talking heads

thought he was better...

[movonne]

75. no...

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

81. Hillary stutters too

you just can't hear her over all the booing. :rofl:

[movonne]

83. NO!!! I think he look like a president should....

[Kurovski]

173. He look-a like a man.

[Hieronymus]

106. NO

[roguevalley]

156. beats canned bullshit any day. your candidate, rememberwellstone, is

looking a little worn out too but then lying does that to a person.

[AX10]

3. Those words will hurt him in PA.

Also, the story is all over the news today.
We will see what happens.

[Texas Hill Country]

19. they will hurt him everywhere.

[gmudem]

72. Didn't you say that about Rev Wright?

Don't you Clinton supporters ever get tired of being wrong?

[Texas Hill Country]

101. yes, and it did and it will continue to.

[Fearless]

104. Yeah, profit Obama.

[Bensthename]

110. Yah, woopey, she ruined his chances in Nov. Fantastic.. Good For Hillary and you.

[Texas Hill Country]

114. SHE didnt do anything. He did it himself. That is why we are all praying he isnt the nominee

because we all belive that McCain could very well slaughter Obama over stuff like this.

[Fearless]

118. Yes because she is doing SUCH a GOOD job at it now.

:rofl:

To continue the stupidity... "I'm like rubber and you're like glue... what bounces off me sticks to you"

[Bensthename]

127. BS. Hillary brought it up when it was out for all, not McCain. We have plenty on McCain.

There is no way in hell if you look at his remarks they were "eletist", unless you try to make them that way,. Thus the reason for her being booed this morning for bringing it up aagin.

We all want the dem nominee to win but we shouldn't be giving the rePubes any amo.. If they want to try and make him an elitist that is fine, but still false.. But Hillary should not.

[ima_sinnic]

167. you republican asshat--you know Obama has the nomination, yet you gloat when you think

he's "sunk"

go to fucking hell, dumbass repuke troll

and go ahead and alert me, I don't give a flying fuck. You and the rest of the Limbaugh no-brain dittoheads can kiss my butt, moron.

[MadBadger]

I think hes worn down.

[RememberWellstone]

32. He looks troubled

Not worn down..almost like he's recieved some bad news. I wonder whats up.

[Fearless]

54. Wishful thinking methinks. I hear McCain is looking for some of that.

[RememberWellstone]

56. McLame is a corpse

He won't even make it to November, unless they find a cure for being a Vampire.

[Fearless]

60. My point exactly.

[leftofcool]

50. He's probably just tired

Hell, how long was that damned forum last night? I'd say sleep deprived

[Nitrogenica]

4. Wellstone would not act like a child, so why are you?

[RememberWellstone]

8. How would you know?

Are you channeling now?

[Nitrogenica]

13. Well I am Minnesotan, and think he was mature, unlike you.

He did enjoy talking about issues.

[jobycom]

23. I loved Wellstone. I don't remember him being big on personal name calling, though.

Seems like I remember him sticking to evidence and facts a lot more.

Damn, I miss him.

[RememberWellstone]

30. We agree, I miss him too.

I would walk a mile on broken glass to see him alive today.

[jefferson_dem]

164. Bullshit.

Liar.

[JoFerret]

174. crap

.

[RememberWellstone]

24. Thanks.

I try to stay young. I work out, eat healthy and ride a bike to work!

[Writer]

63. I think the way you just snarkily attacked RememberWellstone was extremely immature. n/t

[u2spirit]

97. This remeber Wellstone character

is the only one that gets under my skin. Has to do with the sullying of the name Wellstone me thinks.

[RememberWellstone]

100. Sullying the name?

Puhlease.:eyes:

[Windy]

39. You really shouldn't use his name. He would never spew the vitriol that you do.

I find your hi-jacking of his identity to be very troubling.

[RememberWellstone]

53. Mkay, now what?

You want me to change the name of my hero for you? I don't think so.

[2rth2pwr]

15. Acting like a child? From someone with that pic on their sig line? LOL!

[RememberWellstone]

28. LOL! *grin*

I just noticed that.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

46. What, you don't like people mocking McCain?

:shrug:

[2rth2pwr]

86. With pics of Hillary? No.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

90. That's Bush.

Interesting misinterpretation though.

Hmm.

[2rth2pwr]

96. oops, my bad. Too much Cuervo in the morning.

[RememberWellstone]

107. Cuervo in the morning?

Damn, that is scary! Are you seeing double or triple right now? If you see 2 Obamas, we are screwed.:evilgrin:

[RememberWellstone]

92. McLame is a target rich environment

He is begging to be castigated and ridiculed.:evilgrin:

[DJ13]

6. "You think he's feeling the pressure of his own words? "

No, he looks tired of always being forced to respond to your candidate's false smears non stop instead of talking policy.

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[anonymous171]

9. No. He's upset that Tonya Oakley Balboa (or the 109m girl) is calling HIM an elitist

[SoCalDem]

25. Tonya Oakley Balboa

:rofl:

Boy I wish I could photoshop..

Imagine this one with boxing gloves & a gun belt

[RememberWellstone]

38. Que?

have'nt heard that one before.

[Hepburn]

10. Adjust your TV and take off your Hill Hound glasses, OK?

:eyes:

[datopbanana]

11. I think he's upset yall are such SHEEP. bahhh

[Fearless]

17. I agree.

The sheeple herd is on the prowl. Sigh.

[MethuenProgressive]

12. He keeps getting to the "pause for cheering" line on the teleprompter...

..and looks dazed by not getting his on cue adolation.

[Taxmyth]

16. ROFL

good one

[RememberWellstone]

18. I noticed that.

It's almost like he is expecting something to happen, that does'nt. Manchurian? Maybe.:shrug:

[SammyWinstonJack]

89. ...

:spray:

[0007]

14. Your looking pretty hard at nothing.

[RememberWellstone]

20. You can say that again

Boring at best.

[Fearless]

27. So at what point will the inteligent debate begin?

[RememberWellstone]

59. You first!

My fingers are tired.

[Fearless]

67. Fine then... I will gladly...

This smear campaign is hurting both candidates and giving McCain the look of the good guy. We should stop this infighting, quickly finish the primary business, and move on to the GE with the nominee and the WHOLE party in step behind them.

[RememberWellstone]

88. Damn! You got me.

That does make sense to me..it really does. But I still am not comfortable with his personality and his untested experience. I cannot see him as a President. I have tried to get beyond my checklist of what I would want in a President, it has'nt happened. I love Hillary and know exactly what I would get with her as President.

[Fearless]

99. Ok...

He's untested but she's been in Congress for a shorter period of time. Her record as first lady does not qualify her to be president any more than it would for Nancy Reagan or Betty Ford. They don't sit in on meetings. They don't have clearance for classified information. They do nothing. The difference between her and them however is that she pretends she does have experience. In Northern Ireland, et al. And more so, she doesn't seem to have a good memory about such "experience" anyways as proven by the Bosnia comment.

The only thing she brings to office would be dishonesty. She has run a smear campaign akin with the worst of Rovian tactics and it's only got worse as she's slipped further and further down in the polls. As president, we would have a bitter, ravenous, liar to whom the ends justify the means. In short, we would have a republican. Even on things she claims to be favorable on she is not. She believes in NAFTA. She believes that DOMA should not be fully removed. She will not removed DADT. She will not seek an ERA.

I too know what I would get with Clinton... more of the same. I want change.

And those are my two cents,
NTF

[RememberWellstone]

113. She does have experience.

The unspoken fact that she was in the White House for 8 years proves to be a sticky point for her. She was there during all the crises and during all the leadership meetings. She was there. Even by default she inherited a wealth of experience just by being there front row. It cannot be faked, she was there.

No matter how many speeches you cite or great lines of policy, he has not been there and there si NO way to gauge what will happen. No real track record except for voting. I voted for the same he has in his term, although mine does not change policy. Governing is different, if we fail to realize this, we will be woefully dismayed if he fails. It could set us back 20 years. At least with Hillary, we know the commoddity, no questions on what she would do for the good of the country.

Obama, we do not know.

[Fearless]

123. You're not listening...

She may have been in the White House but she was NOT at Bill's side during meetings no matter how much she claims she was. She doesn't have security clearance for most of that. It would be a felony to discuss classified information with her.

But, yes, with Hillary we know what we're going to get... Welfare reform, throwing millions into abject poverty, pro-marriage initatives (that would be the m-f kind), both under Clinton in 1996 to get reelected. Then we have DADT = discrimination. DOMA = discrimination. I can go on about their EXPERIENCE.

[movonne]

95. That is the best thing you have said so far....go rest your hand..

[datopbanana]

29. ya nothing we can use to attack our fellow dem. BOO!! NEXT!

[Fearless]

21. How about Hillary looking like she wanted to cry yesterday? How about that?

Thought so.

:rofl:

[azmouse]

22. Here. Grasp on to these:

[Hepburn]

31. LOL....

...are they the kind that children use to flavor thier milk?

That would be too perfect for this group! :rofl:

[JBoy]

33. And after the PA primary, grasp onto these:

[grantcart]

35. and don't look at this

[Fearless]

40. Hmm... I wonder what that means??? Hmm... n/t all.

[azmouse]

43. Ohhh... I could just look at that all day!!

:hi:

[billyoc]

34. Well, he doesn't have to win a single contest from now until the convention,

not a single one. What does he have to be upset about? Clinton is already getting booed by the crowd for trying to give "bittergate" traction and Obama is coasting to the nomination.

[DarienComp]

36. What are you, some kind of masochist or something?

[RememberWellstone]

No, I'm Luthern!

Thanks for asking.

[yellowcanine]

42. Really scratching there aren't you? Obama "looks upset...." Oh my. The Horror!

And how did you judge that he "looks upset"? Just a question.

[RememberWellstone]

49. I am asking, not telling

he has a visible grimace on his face...like he has bad gas. He is stuttering more than usual. Just wondering.

[Fearless]

51. Angels still dancing on the head of a pin? Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[RememberWellstone]

61. An ounce of prevention is worth

a pound of cure, don't let the bed bugs bites. You catch more bees with honey than vinegar. This can go on all day.

[Fearless]

69. Actually the angels on the head of the pin was a HRC blunder... look for the video. It's HILLarious

[yellowcanine]

62. "a visible grimace" You are pretty funny, you know that? Is that different from a regular grimace?

And have you been monitoring his stuttering also? I call bullshit. You see what you want to see.

[indimuse]

44. I agree.

..becoming very apparent, poor Obama.

[Fearless]

48. Tell me... How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

[undeterred]

47. I can't believe anyone who really remembers Wellstone

would support Hillary.

[RememberWellstone]

55. Believe it!

We believe!!!!!

[Beacool]

52. Nahhh, he's just bitter...........

:rofl:

[Fearless]

58. As he should be getting attacked by a candidate who works a campaign like a small child

[CakeGrrl]

57. He's tired of being continuously vetted on some dumb-ass meaningless crap

since the HRC campaign cannot win on its own merits. He wants to move forward and get to the business of countering McCain as McCain just sits back and waits and bides his time, but the media is aiding and abetting the Clinton campaign as they make pointless, time-wasting attempts to force Obama into deflecting NON-issues.

It's relentlessly stupid bullshit. And I'd bet money that Obama is shaking his head to himself that the Democratic party is shooting its collective self in the foot while they let this circus drag on. And he knows the media is all too happy to help that happen.

[RememberWellstone]

119. These were his words sweetheart.

They were not made up or misquoted. He said what he said then try to wiggle his way out of it. Hillary had nothing to do with his own words, unless she is a ventriquolist and is exceptional at it.

[Fearless]

126. Did you even see his response speech? The one where he restated his "bitter" statement?

He isn't backtracking. You're misinformed.

[CakeGrrl]

165. Straw man. Did I ever imply that he DIDN'T say it? No.

But on a RELATIVE scale, compared to Hillary straight-up pulling a lie out of her ass to pad her resume for "readiness", it's no big deal.

But the media's so hot to get the Democrats fighting in Denver or to get HRC the nom so McCain can kick her ass that they bite on any dregs her campaign digs up. And that's some straight-up bullshit when people who are losing relatives in a war for which SHE voted, and who are losing jobs, healthcare and mortgages won't get their issues addressed because she's too busy chasing down an ego-tripping power grab by any means imaginable rather than trying to help the Democrats get a victory.

[PoliticalAmazon]

64. He has the right to be angry, and needs to draw the line with Clinton bullies. n/t

[rodeodance]

146. posts like yours will never let this board be civil. Immature name-calling

He has the right to be angry, and needs to draw the line with Clinton bullies.

[Fearless]

158. Actually name-calling is a protected right in DU. Didn't you get the memo?

[aquarius dawning]

65. he's frequently seen scowling and looking angry even before all of this "bitter-gate" business

[SammyWinstonJack]

94. Or looking condescending and arrogant. Which he is.

[Fearless]

109. Oh yes... HE is arrogant... and she CAN'T possibly lose... HAHA, give me a break.

[aquarius dawning]

166. I think you hit the nail on the head there.

[aquarius dawning]

169. Check this out : What, me smug?

[PoliticalAmazon]

147. Not my experience at all. In fact, if you look at the crowds of supporters...

...Hillary's supporters usually look bitter and angry. Obama supporters appear upbeat and enthusiastic.

[aquarius dawning]

168. Hillary supporters look normal enough IMO but Obama supporters tend to look wild eyed and frenzied.

like manic little girls at a beatles concert practically.


versus

[wowimthere]

71. Hillary Clinton... the silly child we like to scold... I've never seen a campaign rife...

with pettiness and silliness. Oooops... oh yeah... forgot... The Bush campaign.

[goldcanyonaz]

76. But, does he look bitter?

[Fearless]

85. How do you look bitter? Eat a lemon? Listen to HRC?

:rofl:

[MethuenProgressive]

103. marry Michelle?

That'd do it.
:rofl:

[Fearless]

108. So do you believe that Ted Kennedy is wrong in his judgment and selection of Obama?

[MethuenProgressive]

124. Ted's endorsement was out of spite,

Mass newspapers covered Teddy's outrage that the Clintons supposedly gave LBJ credit for what Teddy thought JFK deserved re civil rights, and just days later Teddy's out endorsing BO. Seen Teddy out there recently? That might be because of Obama's exposed lie about his "owing his entire existence to the Kennedys" - claiming they brought his dad to the US. But the Kennedys didn't become involved until long after dad was here in the states. BO is a Kennedy-sniffer. We get a lot of them.

[Fearless]

129. So you're against the Kennedy's now? Whatever helps you sleep at night.

I've seen TK in Congress recently, you know... doing his job. He campaigned simply to get the union vote. He did and then left. Or would you rather he continued?

[MethuenProgressive]

132. Sorry, thought I was talking to a Democrat.

Never mind.

[Fearless]

135. I'm sorry too... I unlike some actully believe that TK is doing a good job.

I don't see how you can take a key figure of the Democratic Party and distort it so much to fit your needs. Facts don't work that way. They just are. They're not up for interpretation.

[MethuenProgressive]

141. You don't think that you can support some, but not all, of what a politician does?

"All or nothing" is a Republican trait.
I'm a Democrat.

[Fearless]

145. No, I think that broadly bashing the Kennedy's is a Republican trait.

[MethuenProgressive]

148. "Broadly bash" does not equal objecting to One thing One Kennedy did.

Really got your goat, eh?

[Fearless]

152. I don't have a goat. Sorry.

"Ted's endorsement was out of spite"

What does that sound like?

I read it as, TK is spiteful and petty because he felt shunned by the Clinton camp. Elaborate if you wish.

[MethuenProgressive]

157. Thanks for adimitting your error.

You're a better person than Barack Obama.

[Fearless]

159. And now you misrepresent me. I didn't apologize for anything.

And, I'm done pandering with you. If you want to discuss facts, by all means. Until then, you can keep your distructive devisiveness, I've got better things to do. Like, unite a party. Enjoy.

[Beacool]

163. Teddy is an old windbag with more skeletons in his family closet

than a cemetery. The Kennedys, my family knows them very well (their house in Palm Beach was near ours), also from vacationing in Hyannis. There are so many things that the public doesn't know about these people. There was a reason why Jacquie kept her children away from them. To top it all, Teddy had the balls to criticize Bill when he endorsed Obama. Way too hypocritical and funny. It was a pleasure to see MA go to Hillary by 17%. So much for Teddy, Kerry and the governor's endorsement!!!

[oasis]

77. He's feeling the pressure. The mask has been ripped off, the true Barack revealed.

:wow:

[Fearless]

78. SHAME ON YOU OBAMA! Shaaaaaaaame!

You can't be human. You can't be tired. You can't be angry. You can't show emotion. It's unfair. HRC can't show emotion for real; it's only fair! BOOOO! HISS! BITCH AND MOAN.

Give me a break.

[BigDDem]

91. is he grumpy or mad?

Bitter!

[RememberWellstone]

98. Trifecta!

To the bigDdem! He is all three! He is the trinity that that the Oompas are looking for.

[Fearless]

112. We don't all live in crystal towers. We have the right to be angry and bitter.

There are jobs leaving this country by droves. If you want a full tank of winter heating oil, it will cost you a full paycheck and only last three months. Gas will hit $4.00 a gallon this summer. Diesel already has, causing food prices to go up. Inflation is rising again. The housing bubble busted. The mortgage market is in bankruptcy. I could go on...

[RememberWellstone]

117. Grab your gun and Bible!

Obama thinks this is what you do...so go do it!

[Fearless]

133. Sounds like you've been listening to Bill-O

[snooper2]

131. You are an...

!#$^@^@

[Life Long Dem]

105. Clinton looks sleep deprived.

[knixphan]

111. He looks like he's um...

leading in pledged delegates...

[Fearless]

115. And the popular vote, and in national polls... hmm... looks like he's winning...

Who'd've thought that HRC could mess up such a sure thing. No wonder you're all angry.

[LisaM]

120. I think he generally looks angry

Oh, he'll summon a smile now and then - but I feel as if he's trying to consciously turn on the charm. But his general aspect is pretty serious.

[RememberWellstone]

121. Iceberg maybe?

We don't know what lies beneath the surface?

[LisaM]

130. Yeah, who knows?

I do sense a simmering sense of impatience underneath the surface.

[Fearless]

137. As it should be for President of the United States

[knixphan]

122. He looks like any of us would look...

Running against two republicans simultaneously.

[Fearless]

138. K&R!

[cboy4]

125. I believe he is beyond furious with more than just a few

of his so-called supporters.

[Kber]

128. Sheesh

I just wasted 3 minutes on this thread and never found out where Obama supposedly looked grumpy or upset, the context, or anything reomotely useful. Just a long exercise of "Nah -nah! I know you are, but what am I?"

I usually like reading the thoughtfully argued points of people I disagree with. I've even changed my mind once or twice based on the well reasoned opinions of others here. Not today I guess.

Done with you.

[Maribelle]

136. I know why Obama looks upset today.

There is news out of Chicago that his name has been mentioned again at the Rezko trial.

[Fearless]

139. Do you have a link?

[Maribelle]

140. I do have a link

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rezko-court-story,0,7957753.htmlstory

[MethuenProgressive]

142. Holy Chit - more RezkoGate for BO, on TOP of insulting the peasents?

Bad week!

[Fearless]

143. Peasants? Are you insulting grassroots organizers now?

You are no Democrat if you are.

[MethuenProgressive]

150. Are they anti-immigrant, gun and bible clinging organizers?

Lord Barack considers them mere peasents. Let them eat arugula!

[Fearless]

155. What are you talking about?

Obama is not anti-gun. He is not anti-bible. That doesn't even jive with the usual Rev. Wright BS. If all of you could get together and get your story straight, then I'll be interested in hearing what you all come up with. Until then, leave the Dem bashing at home.

Cheers,
NTF

[Fearless]

144. Say it ain't so... he went to his party! Oh no! ...I've a link for you too...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tngWyRHIjYU

[smiley_glad_hands]

149. Hilliary: Master of the Kneecap. eom

[Hutzpa]

154. I've always wondered why you'll use such

a great name to act like an ass, just my view from reading majority of your threads/posts.


:shrug:

[RememberWellstone]

172. I don't like to be bullied

My name choice is also my hero choice. If I were saying the same things about Hillary, you would call me your hero.

[rodeodance]

160. oh poor wittle soul. Get of the kitchen if you can't take the heat