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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:17 PM
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Clinton 40, Obama 37 in PA! Susquehanna Polling & Research
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 01:19 PM by stratomagi
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:19 PM
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1. K&R
:toast:
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:19 PM
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2. I'm not usually one to harp on spelling, but you might want to check that sigline photo.
:hi:

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:21 PM
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6. LOL!
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:21 PM
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7. Damn i just didn't notice I pulled it off the thread where they were making all of them.
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:30 PM
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13. Fixed
took a few minutes in paint.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:38 PM
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15. Nicely done!
:thumbsup:
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:19 PM
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3. The polling was done before the bitter story broke. nt
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:21 PM
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8. The bitter story seems to be helping Obama
His numbers in Rasmussen and Gallup are rising.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:23 PM
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10. That bullshit by Hillary really seems to have hurt her...
...she got booed at a Union gathering this AM whereas Obama who was speakig at the same event, got cheered.

She should have steered clear of this totally. Ouch!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:20 PM
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4. Cautiously optimistic he can put an end to this bullshit in Pennsylvania.
No worries, though. He has skillfully managed to keep her margins down. She has ZERO chance of catching him in the delegate count and her dream of a superdelegate coup d'etat has turned into the nightmare realization that she has already lost.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:20 PM
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5. 23% undecided?????????/
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:22 PM
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9. I am wary of polls that show 23% undecided at this late point. However,
I do not believe at all that he is down 20% either, as ARGGGG! suggests.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:25 PM
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12. I think they're called that
because that's the sound I make whenever I hear about another one of their polls.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:41 PM
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16. those may be the Rush-bots
waiting to unleash their stealth powers :rofl:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:24 PM
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11. I'm wary because its pre bittergate.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:03 PM
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21. "bittergate" is not going to hurt Obama

It's just bringing the worst out in Hillary. She was heckled today
in Pittsburgh.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:30 PM
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14. Are we really surprised by the noise?
Actually I think this is quite a good sign. Obama is even with or only slightly behind McCain in Obama v. McCain polls. What's going to happen when the noise dies down and the rightist smear machine no longer has Hillary, its best leader, out in front of it?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:42 PM
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17. Obama takes Bitter Lemons and makes Sweet,Sweet Lemonade
This man is a marvel!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:00 PM
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20. Poll was done before Bitter lemons, so lets say.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:09 PM
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24. bittergate might have helped Hillary if she was a Repuke and this was the GE,
but that is not the case.

Democrats have seen bullshit wedges like this being used against them in elections for decades. Especially in PA.

Hillary seriously misread her audience on this, and she will be the one who pays the price.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:58 PM
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18. If she doesn't win it by 15 - 20%, it won't matter
Of course, her campaign will claim a win if Obama doesn't win by 10 percent or more...
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:58 PM
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19. and you forgot to mention that PA will then cease to count.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:05 PM
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22. But what happens when Diebold is factored in
Will it give Senator Clinton the election by a 15 point margin? Will Diebold keep her in the race and eventually help her to win the nomination? Will they then use these fixed numbers as an example where polls are meaningless? ie: "See, look at PA. polls where they had Obama almost even with Clinton when she was instead way ahead because she had turned her campaign around! Polls are inaccurate, it's the votes ONLY which count"

A caller from PA on the Tom Hartmann show phoned this very concern in today. I've embellished his concern with my above example but the point remains valid: Can Diebold skew the PA results to favor Senator Clinton and do so for neocon purposes?
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progdog Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:10 PM
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25. Yes
n/t
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:27 PM
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27. I'm not sure but I don't think Diebold makes the e-voting machines in PA
at least not all of them.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:38 PM
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28. I hope that you are right.
I fear that the corporatists are running out of options. When that PA. caller phoned in his concerns that Diebold might be about to skew the PA. votes for Senator Clinton, I sensed the 'merit' if you will, behind his concerns. Perhaps I am just being gun-shy because of all the shenanigans that the corporatists have been pulling but I don't put it past them to be trying SOMETHING in PA.
I do hope that election fraud will not be rearing it's ugly head in PA. I hope that the collective will of the citizens of PA is reflected accurately in the upcoming election...however it turns out.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:06 PM
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23. I think Hill will win PA but I think Obama will make it a close race.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:11 PM
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26. WRONG "The current poll was conducted April 6-10" sorry... old.
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