Clintons are responsible for thousands of lost jobs in Pennsylvania, Indiana and North Carolina

[zulchzulu]

Instead of yapping about Bitter This or Bitter That, why not report on this story? It would show that there are REAL journalists out there...

PENNSYLVANIA JOB LOSSES

Due to CHINA 78,200 2001-2006
Due to NAFTA 44,173 1993-2004

Manufacturing jobs lost from 2000-2007: 207,400

78,200 jobs lost, 2001-2006 (all sectors), as a result of the trade deficit with China, equaling 1.4% of the total state employment in 2001.

“In just a few short years, tens of thousands of Pennsylvania jobs have been shipped to China ,” said AAM Director Scott Paul. “The presidential candidates are rightly concerned about the potentially damaging effects of unfair trade and they need to focus more attention on our record trade deficits with China , which have cost us more than 1.8 million jobs since 2001. Vigorous enforcement of our trade laws will ensure American workers and companies have the chance to compete in a fair global market. We call on the presidential candidates to make this commitment to the voters of Pennsylvania .”

AAM’s analysis of Economic Policy Institute data found that Pennsylvania lost 78,200 jobs from 2001-2006 (all sectors) as a result of the U.S. trade deficit with China . That works out to an average of 15,640 lost jobs per year. Using an identical analysis, AAM found that Pennsylvania lost 44,173 jobs from 1993-2004 (all sectors) as a result of NAFTA, for an average of 4,016 jobs lost per year .

Cool: http://www.americanmanufacturing.org/inyourstate/
http://www.americanmanufacturing.org/

What about Indiana?

Manufacturing jobs lost from 2000-2007: 109,800

45,200 jobs lost, 2001-2006 (all sectors), as a result of the trade deficit with China, equaling 1.5% of the total state employment in 2001.

http://www.americanmanufacturing.org/inyourstate/

What about North Carolina?

Manufacturing jobs lost from 2000-2007: 217,100

77,200 jobs lost, 2001-2006 (all sectors), as a result of the trade deficit with China, equaling 2.0% of the total state employment in 2001.

http://www.americanmanufacturing.org/inyourstate/

Who signed NAFTA and the China free trade agreements into law?
BILL CLINTON



Watch Bill lie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ooMrgXido&feature=related



Who lied when she said she didn't support NAFTA when she was First Lady?
HILLARY CLINTON

Now that we know from official records of her time as First Lady that Clinton was the featured speaker at a closed-door session where 120 women opinion leaders were hectored to pressure their congressional representatives to approve NAFTA; now that we know from ABC News reporting on the session that "her remarks were totally pro-NAFTA" and that "there was no equivocation for her support for NAFTA at the time;" now that we have these details confirmed, what should we make of Clinton's campaign claim that she was never comfortable with the militant free-trade agenda that has cost the United States hundreds of thousands of union jobs, that has idled entire industries, that has saddled this country with record trade deficits, undermined the security of working families in the US and abroad, and has forced Mexican farmers off their land into an economic refugee status that ultimately forces them to cross the Rio Grande River in search of work?

As she campaigns now, Clinton says, "I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning."

But the White House records confirm that this is not true.

Her statement is, to be precise, a lie.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=300860

Who voted for the China free trade agreement in 2000?
HILLARY CLINTON

Clinton supported most favored nation trade status despite concerns about China’s human rights record. “We have to use our our moral and material strengths in ways that serve our evolving interests,” she said. “We have to ask ourselves what hope does the global market hold for the tens of millions of victims of child labor, or for the 100 million street children without homes or families whom I’ve seen everywhere from Brazil to Mongolia who are being left to fend for themselves.”
Source: Dean Murphy, NY Times Oct 20, 2000

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Hillary_Clinton_Free_Trade.htm#2

Are we to assume that this critical story will never be reported for voters to know about?

[Spider Jerusalem]

1. Those numbers for North Carolina are probably a lot higher...

if you include the period from 1994-2000. The textile industry (once a major employer in much of the South) has been decimated due to offshoring of production.

[valerief]

2. And she voted to drain the Treasury dry, I mean, to go to war. nt

[redqueen]

3. What? This isn't a story!

Everyone knows this already.

:sarcasm:

[zulchzulu]

4. It sure would be nice to report it this week...

:hi:

[redqueen]

5. I wouldn't count on the M$M doing so...

they sort of have their own interests to look after. :P

:hi:

[zulchzulu]

21. Maybe in tonight's debate, something will be brought up...

I sure hope so.

[Bigleaf]

6. Yeah, but today she announced plans to fix things (NAFTA) so everything will be fine again.

:sarcasm:

[tritsofme]

7. How about the 20,000,000+ jobs created during the Clinton administration?

Are they responsible for those too, or just these cherrypicked losses you are bringing up?

[juno jones]

11. Hmmm. Lets see.

Well paid Manufacturing job.....Starbucks
Manufacturing job with insurance and other benefits.....Merry Maids
Manufacturing job with a pension after retirement.....(insert service job here)

Ain't the quantity but the quality that counts, as the old fable goes.

[tritsofme]

13. I remember hearing that line from the GOP throughout the 90s.

I guess they were right?

[juno jones]

16. dupe.

Posted twice.

[juno jones]

18. I juggled several of those jobs in the Clinton years

remember the old joke-, X many jobs created and I've got three of them? I know others who experienced that as well. Sure would have been nice just to have one good-paying job with benefits. IIRC, most of those jobs Bill took credit for were less than full time in the service sector. The only good jobs created in that economy were tech and IT. Whither have those gone, I ask? Bet most of those jobs created outside the service industries have left the building. And Hillary wants more visas for foriegn tech workers, supported NAFTA before she was against it, etc. :eyes:

I won't even get into how Bill's welfare reform screwed over many working mothers.

A Starbucks or Wal-Mart job is lipstick on the pig and an insult to workers everywhere. Sorry.

If you're trying to call me out as a republican, you're barking up the wrong fish. I've got blue-collar democratic street cred coming out my lily-white ears.

[whistle]

8. Is AAM passing the buck here after the fact? Didn't these same AAM folks agree

....that NAFTA and China as preferred trading partner was a good idea? Perhaps they did all that in stealth mode as to just who started what and with which goals and objectives, i.e. ASOCODE and CLOC and FTAA, etc.

http://www.lse.ac.uk/Depts/global/Publications/Yearbooks/2003/2003Chapter8b.pdf

[Kurovski]

9. K&R. (nt)

[moondust]

10. Precedent.

NAFTA effectively sanctioned outsourcing and thus officially opened the door to the loss of millions of U.S. jobs that continues today. The direct and indirect consequences are incalculable.

[anonymous171]

12. Hillary's swinging wide with these newest ads. Obama needs to take advantage and attack her on this.

[zulchzulu]

14. I hope Obama brings this up in the debate this Wednesday

I have a funny feeling that he will. I can't wait to hear her non-answer.

:rofl:

[Cha]

15. And that's what Obama's response ad to

hilary's bittershit should say..with him directly talking to the people.

[zulchzulu]

17. I'm guessing Hillary is going to screw up in the debate this Wednesday

Hopefully Obama can use whatever she does in an ad.

[zulchzulu]

19. More data showing how NAFTA has hurt the country's manufacturing base

All 50 states and the District of Columbia have experienced a net loss of jobs under NAFTA, with the U.S. losing 766,030 actual and potential jobs between 1993 and 2000 (see NAFTA's Hidden Costs from the report NAFTA at Seven ). With exports from every state being offset by faster growth in imports, net job loss figures range from a low of 395 jobs lost in Alaska to a high of 82,354 in California. Other hard-hit states include Michigan, New York, Texas, Ohio, Illinois, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Indiana, Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia, each with more than 20,000 jobs lost. These states all have high concentrations of the kinds of industries (motor vehicles, textiles and apparel, computers and electrical appliances) that subsequently have expanded rapidly in the maquilidora zones in Mexico since the implementation of NAFTA.

The U.S. manufacturing sector lost 544,750 jobs (72% of all jobs lost) between 1993 and 2000, due to growth in the net export deficit between the U.S. and Canada (see the methodology section and the accompanying table). One of the hardest-hit sectors within manufacturing is electrical electronic machinery (108,773 jobs lost), which includes home audio and video equipment (28,995 jobs), communications equipment such as telephones and cell phones (33,254 jobs), and appliances such as refrigerators and washing machines (data not available for this sub-sector). Other hard-hit industries in the U.S. included motor vehicles and equipment (83,643 jobs lost), textiles and apparel (83,258 jobs, combined), and lumber and wood products (48,306 jobs). The service sector also lost 112,499 jobs as an indirect result of the loss of markets to foreign producers of traded goods. This includes legal, accounting, and data processing services that are used as inputs to traded goods production, and also temporary workers that are contracted out to the manufacturing sector.

(snip)

Overall, the states with the most job losses are: California (82,354 jobs lost), Michigan (46,817 jobs), New York (46,210 jobs), Texas (41,067 jobs), and Ohio (37,694 jobs). Many other states have lost tens of thousands of jobs, as shown in the attached table.

Within the states, job losses by industry reflect the geographic distribution of major industries in the United States. For example, employment in motor vehicles and equipment has been particularly hard hit by NAFTA in Michigan (25,912 jobs lost), Ohio (9,826), Indiana (7,119), Tennessee (3,658), Illinois (3,468), and California (3,002).

The electronic equipment sector has also suffered, with large losses in California (14,332 jobs lost), Indiana (9,721), Illinois (8,316), New York (6,288), Texas (6,170), and Pennsylvania (5,042).

http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/briefingpapers_nafta01_impactstates

[Scurrilous]

20. K & R

:thumbsup:

[whistle]

22. I'm not convinced that the Clinton's were as guilty as suggested here

....First, this composition appears to be a string of things that were put together, apparently anti-Clinton.

The first part is from the AAM, which seems to be an issue group, a 527 committee(1). which can't make endorsements, but can only speak on and about issues. The AAM Board has an equal number of Democrats and right-wing GOPers. The last two items, which attack Hillary as always being for NAFTA, are partisan attacks which are not from AAM. In fact as a 527 committee, AAM would not be allowed to make such statements. The Nation is a left-leaning Democratic magazine which I read from time to get a broader perspective which is away from the extreme right and progressive views that currently dominate the political scene in the U.S.

I am and will continue to be against "free trade" as it is currently defined(2), practiced and politically understood. Those who blame China for the imbalance of trade, are simply using that country as a scapegoat. The Chinese exports to the U.S. were created by U.S. manufacturers, who set up "runaway shops"(3) to China to use that country's cheap labor and infrastructure. Perhaps up to half of Chinese imports to the United States are still from U.S. companies who located in China and are NOT from "China" (i.e. Mattel China based manufacturing lead paint tainted toys under their oversight and specifications). This is not good for China either, because the employers are underpaying their labor, and using their transport, water, electricity and other valuable infrastructure, of which China has a limited amount--to get "Walmart"-type junk to shipped to U.S. market.

Those groups who raise "China" as the enemy, are just covering for their own refusal to fight the speculative interests, for favorable treatment for investments put back into America to accomplish modernization of U.S. industry, instead of favorable treatment for hedge funds, Wall Street speculators, etc.

These same people who scapegoat China did not buck people, such as Felix Rohatyn and others, who finance the Democratic National Committee, in order to bypass the interests of people who wanted Economic Recovery legislation(4)(5)(6). which has been proposed by Democrats in Congress since Bush and company begin their destruction of the U.S. economy, that would have for example taken excess auto manufacturing and the machine tool and die industries excess capacity to construct alternative uses to build high speed railroads--which require steel. If the U.S. were to begin no to build a magnetic levitation railroad network (mag-lev) to replace obsolete railway systems and interstate roadways which were never designed and build to handle the massive and heavy loads trucks now carry, such a meg lev construction project would require 5,000 tons of steel for each mile of build. Now the whole transportation system un the U.S. is coming apart. But that all can be fixed and modernized and provide Americans once more with millions of skilled jobs at fair wages for the next four to five decades.

Instead, Bush and the republicans gave us nothing, then not much more than nothing and finally far less than what the country needed to recover from the worst economic and financial crisis to come along in eighty years. (7)




Notes:
(1) A 527 group is a type of American tax-exempt organization named after a section of the United States tax code, 26 U.S.C. § 527. A 527 group is created primarily to influence the nomination, election, appointment or defeat of candidates for public office. Although candidate committees and political action committees are also created under Section 527, the term is generally used to refer to political organizations that are not regulated by the Federal Election Commission or by a state elections commission, and are not subject to the same contribution limits as PACs.
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/527_group

(2) Free trade is a market model in which the trade of goods and services between or within countries flows unhindered by government-imposed restrictions. These restrictions may increase costs to goods and services, producers, businesses, and customers, and may include taxes and tariffs, as well as other non-tariff barriers, such as regulatory legislation and quotas. Trade liberalization entails reductions to these trade barriers in an effort for relatively unimpeded transactions. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_trade

(3) Runaway Shops.(Brief Article) from The Nation, April, 2000 by Marc Cooper -- http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb1367/is_200004/ai_n5583803

(4) Economic Recovery Bypasses U.S. Foundry Industry: Foundry Industry Is In A State Of Shock BY RICHARD McCORMACK, Manufacturing and Technology News, November 4, 2004 -- http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/04/1104/art1.html

(5) The Economic Recovery Plan America Needs By Robert Kuttner, The American Prospect. Posted February 15, 2008 -- http://www.alternet.org/democracy/76707/

(6) The U.S. Economic Recovery Act of 2006 For Economists, Legislators, and Labor Emergency Legislation, Now! -- http://www.larouchepac.com/material/2006/05/18/u-s-economic-recovery-act-2006.html

(7) President's Economic Forum: Economic Recovery and Job Creation Session, Baylor Law Center, Baylor University Waco, Texas, August 13, 2002 -- http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/20020813-1.html

[Armstead]

23. It's actually simpler than this -- The Clintons pushed a horrible economic philosophy

The Clintons -- most notable Bill asd president -- did everything possible to push the whole corrupt "free trade" scam and to marginalize those who saw through it.

Neoliberal "free trade" was less about trade than it was about imposing a free market conservative agenda on the entire world, and undermining domestic sovergnty of nations -- thus suffocating progressive social and economic reforms.

This was obvious to many from the beginning. And, critics warned that it would lead to a race to the bottom and the bolstering of the elite oligarchs.

But the Clintons, in cahoots with the MSM and other elite interests, did everything possible to push the "free trade" mantra and marginalize anyu crirticism or opposition to it.

Now, the chickens are coming home to roost. And, hopefully, they'll shit on the head of the Hillary Clinton bid for the presidency.