Help ME!!!! I've stopped disliking Hillary....

[Flabbergasted]

I don't understand it. Yesterday I was watching the Compassion Deal and all of the sudden I felt a bit of sympathy for her. Even more I could relate to what she was saying.

Today I see this picture of here drinking whiskey and I can totally relate: It's like when I go to church at 10 o'clock on Sunday morning and then go home and have a six pack before bed. (Yes I really do this)

I'm wondering if I should see a doctor? I need Psychotherapy.

[anonymous171]

1. Watch her newest attack ad.

It's guaranteed to make you a Hillary hater.

[beezlebum]

5. wow

you read my mind.

[marshall]

81. Take two doses of Hillary and call me in the morning.

[rodeodance]

62. HRC's new ad is so mild, I find it almost embarrassingly fair-minded for a

so-called political hit job! I mean, asking Pennsylvanians to react with reason towards the BO's stinky comments? Yeah, how AWFUL is that?

[Texas Hill Country]

2. we welcome you to the fold with open arms.... wanna shot? lol

[JuniperLea]

3. You're just an average American...

Feeling for the underdog... don't worry about it, you'll be fine:)

[RememberWellstone]

4. She is real.

If she did'nt have sniper fire, she's got her democratic party firing shots of hate-filled words and bringing up the past. She is a real person. Nice, calm, gentle and very reachable. I really like her.

[im10ashus]

15. Wow!

In case you haven't heard. The sniper fire never happened. She sure doesn't come off as a nice person. And I've never found her calming.

[RememberWellstone]

25. In case you have'nt heard

You will be the reason I do not vote for him. Demeaning my candidate hurts your chances not mine.

[Armstead]

27. You do a pretty good job of demeaning Obama

[bellasgrams]

38. Probably for the same reason I do. After months of the nasty

hateful remarks from this board about Hill it turns a person. In the beginning I had BO above Hill and all the hate on this board made me start looking closer and I found a really good person in Hillary. She is so down to earth. A genuine friendly person, I don't know what I saw in BO but I'm glad that the people that support Hillary are like her. Genuine and good. I met Hillary at the airport when she was here. She wasn't expected to come over and meet us but she did. She was gracious and joked just like one of us. On the way to her event she passed a nursing home,there were people lined up in their wheelchairs to watch her go by. Only she didn't go by. She stopped and spoke with them and sang Happy Birthday to one of the residents, then went on to her event. I saw Bill last week and was absolutely thrilled. I'd sure like to see 8 more years of the Clintons. She is the only one running that can turn this country around, and she gets free advice and whats more she can send him around to all the countries that have turned away from us since Bush has been in. .

[ima_sinnic]

oh, gee, there's a real believable post

first, you're like all those fake "former Democrats" who would call into C-SPAN gnashing their teeth and wringing their hands back in 2004. You're like Mayhill Fowler, a fake "concerned Obama supporter" who couldn't wait to run back to Molehillary with her big scoop that she violated journalistic principles to get, a real winner.

And isn't that fucking surprising, a political candidate out gladhanding the voters?! oooh, that's sooo unusual! gee, a candidate took time to shake people's hands--wow, did you get to kiss her ring? she joked "just like one of us," a "genuinely friendly person"--just like GWB would be fun "to have a beer with"--did you expect her to be surly and grouchy? she's out on the freaking campaign trail! DUH!!
why didn't you ask her about her deal with Uribe while you were so easily joking around with her? why didn't you ask her when she was going to pay her bills instead of being a deadbeat?

well, I guess people ARE easily impressed by the most mundane shit.

[RememberWellstone]

103. Me too.

I am tired of it.

[dchill]

104. "She is the only one running that can turn this country around,"

and around and around and around and around. Until we get so dizzy that we...:puke:

[im10ashus]

34. Which means you really aren't a Democrat after all.

You'd rather McCain win in November? Bitter much? Oops! I called you bitter. Why? Because you are Blanche, you are!

[RaleighNCDUer]

52. Oh, tell the truth.

You have no intention of voting for ANYONE on the Democratic ticket.

[RaleighNCDUer]

50. Why do you speak of 'her' Democratic party

as if 'they' are the 'other guys' --

"...she's got her democratic party firing shots of hate-filled words and bringing up the past."

[RememberWellstone]

102. Because everyone is piling on

She is my candidate and it seems the whole party is trying to blow her out. I am tired of this plot against her.

[HopeforChange]

53. She's a really sweet lady who lies and has dillusions about someone shooting at her.

[goldcanyonaz]

6. It was her chugging down beer and doing shots of whiskey. Admit it!

[Flabbergasted]

That's it. You got it. nt

[Flabbergasted]

65. Delete

[cbayer]

7. Bottom line - she is not who she is portrayed as being on this site.

I get that same sense whenever I see either of the candidates. You don't need psychotherapy. The delusion is at DU. Your perceptions are just fine.

[grantcart]

12. this is who she portrays herself to be - I can't think that you believe this is good

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9600.html

[cbayer]

20. I've got no problem with the ad.

She is trying to beat Obama in a presidential primary race that is critical to her campaign. The ad basically says that he is out of touch and she isn't. So what? What's wrong with an ad that has individuals saying, "She gets us and he doesn't?"

That ad is nothing compared to what will happen in the GE. It's just a whisper and a nudge. Better put on the gear.

[grantcart]

39. I certainly misunderstood you. I had understood you to have a broader view

If you have no problems with that ad then I am sure that you don't have any problems with this Jed Report http://www.jedreport.com/2008/04/hillary-clint-5.html.


The problem is not that she is scoring points. That is what a campaign should do. There are two problems with the ad.

1) The first is that she uses the point to denegrate Obama without giving any positive advantage to herself. By taking the higher road she could still get an elbow into Obama but actually make a positive statement about herself. For example she could have said soemthing like

Senator Obama recently talked about the bitterness of people in small towns that have lost good paying jobs during these last 7 years of the Bush administration. While I am sure that there are better ways of addressing the issue I know that people are frustrated about that job loss and my plan will make sure that more jobs aren't lost and that we will fight to bring good paying jobs back. Here is my plan:

she makes her point. the commments about Obama are left in the air and she is able to actually address the real issue.

2) She continues, and it is becoming a pattern, of attacking Obama in the manner that will be most favorable for McCain and the republicans to piggy back on.

[leftupnorth]

58. Yes. Excellent point.

The trouble is, IIRC, wasn't it her camp that started this whole thing?

[cbayer]

75. The Jed Report piece is interesting, but I don't agree with it.

I don't hear her saying that she is more American. Just because she says the word repeatedly? Refers to her father? I just don't read the nefarious angle that he does.

Here's the problem - they can't really campaign on the issues because they basically share a platform. That leaves these non-issues which revolve around what would otherwise be pretty meaningless statements.

I see your point that she could have parsed her ad differently and I like the way you put it. She chose to use the people in the street approach with a couple saying that he didn't relate to them and a couple saying that she did. It's negative campaigning, no question about it. Sad to say, negative campaigning is effective. If it weren't, no one would use it.

Certainly McCain and the republicans can piggy back on anything negative she says about Obama. The two camps are both running against him. Is she supposed to hold him up in order to protect his candidacy for the future? Is she not supposed to use Obama's mistakes, real or imagined, to her advantage?

The premise that many here work from is that this primary is over and it's just not true. She is still in this race and in it to win.

By the way, this is a really fascinating article about the Clintons and their relationship. It explains in many ways why this is not over.

http://www.slate.com/id/2188751/pagenum/all/

I do enjoy interchanges with you, even if we do not agree.

[rodeodance]

64. it was mild for a so-called political hit ad.

[grantcart]

67. For the GE you are correct for the primary you are 100% wrong.

If you have no problems with that ad then I am sure that you don't have any problems with this Jed Report http://www.jedreport.com/2008/04/hillary-clint-5.html .


The problem is not that she is scoring points. That is what a campaign should do. There are two problems with the ad.

1) The first is that she uses the point to denegrate Obama without giving any positive advantage to herself. By taking the higher road she could still get an elbow into Obama but actually make a positive statement about herself. For example she could have said soemthing like

Senator Obama recently talked about the bitterness of people in small towns that have lost good paying jobs during these last 7 years of the Bush administration. While I am sure that there are better ways of addressing the issue I know that people are frustrated about that job loss and my plan will make sure that more jobs aren't lost and that we will fight to bring good paying jobs back. Here is my plan:

she makes her point. the commments about Obama are left in the air and she is able to actually address the real issue.

2) She continues, and it is becoming a pattern, of attacking Obama in the manner that will be most favorable for McCain and the republicans to piggy back on.

[rodeodance]

its a mild ad compared to one she could have done with so many of BHO lies.

[smiley_glad_hands]

107. No she's exacty who she is.

Someone who wants the nomination so bad that she is willing to destroy the party in the process.

[undeterred]

8. I can't look at her any more.

Enough is enough.

[LisaM]

17. Well, we're killing ourselves because I can't look at Barack anymore

I've gotten to where I absolutely can't stand the sight of him or to listen to his stentorian tones and lecturing speeches, complete with a condescending historical snippet in front of every anectdote.

If we mutally can't look at each other's candidates, the rift might be too large to heal.

[RememberWellstone]

24. Me too

you are not alone.

[undeterred]

26. Well he's going to be president for 8 years, so get used to it.

And if you hear something condescending, you are the one projecting it onto him. This is a good man.

[LisaM]

30. I didn't say he was a bad man. I just don't need a lecture with my fries.

Does he EVER give an example where he doesn't start out with something like, "now, you see, some folks used to think that it was this way. But then some other folks came along and it turned out it wasn't that way at all. So then these folks, they all got together, and ........" and so on, blah, blah, blah. I mean, how much of that can anyone listen to?

[undeterred]

31. After 8 years of a babbling idiot?

Are you kidding? I could listen to quite a bit. And besides its a stump speech. Nobody has to listen to a stump speech more than once unless you're working on the campaign. I look forward to a brilliant inaugural address and state of the union addresses that actually communicate something.

[LisaM]

35. Well I've had enough of the word "folks" to last me a lifetime already

8 more years of it? I don't care who says it!

[Straight Shooter]

42. If I hear the word "brilliant" one more time in relation to Obama, I'll throw my bookbag at the wall

:D

I am also very weary of Obama's voice. He's fine when he speaks naturally one-on-one, but as soon as he begins to give an opinionated speech, or a speechified opinion, it's as if he's possessed by the spirit of James Earl Jones and you will bow down to the power of the oratory.

Obama is an actor, just like Reagan.

[LisaM]

43. How about thoughtful?

I think you are right; he IS an actor. Becauese whenever I hear someone call him "thoughtful", I get a mental picture of him leaning his head on his fist, like "The Thinker".

[Straight Shooter]

44. I haven't heard that descriptor so much, but the "brilliant" makes me grind my teeth.

I have known a few genuinely brilliant people. Obama cannot hold a candle to them.

[undeterred]

45. He's a teacher, activist, lawyer, statesman

When you campaign you have to go through the same motions over and over again and its somewhat like doing a play over and over. The question is, why are you watching him over and over again? You don't have to.

[Straight Shooter]

56. I rarely watch him, only catch snippets on the Internet tubes.

I read what others have to say about him, not just on DU.

The "brilliant" adjective was begun by Oprah and it's been parroted by his supporters ever since. It's silly. He's intelligent, not brilliant. And if he's such an activist, why didn't he pipe up and use his "brilliant" powers of persuasion to bring attention to the stolen election of 2004? Nope. He stood by and did nothing while Jesse Jackson took all the heat. He can't hold a candle to Jesse Jackson, either, AFAIC.

[Justice Is Comin]

66. You're absolutely right Straight Shooter.

Jessee Jackson used to send chills through me when he talked at his campaign rallies. I would have goose bumps.

This string bean phony gives me :puke:

[Straight Shooter]

78. JJ is one of my favorite people of all time.

Obama should have stepped up and boasted of being compared to Jesse Jackson by Bill Clinton. Instead, he took it as an insult.

I do have a problem that JJ's Rainbow Coalition is associated with Meeks, or so I've been informed by a knowledgeable DU'er. I try not to let it change my perception of Jesse.

Stringbean, ha ha. Obeana. :D

[undeterred]

77. Anyone who is editor of the Harvard Law Review

and offered a Professorship at the University of Chicago Law School is brilliant, not intelligent. I hardly think Oprah is the person to consult on this.

Why should he be compared to Jesse Jackson in particular- because they're both black? Is that the only league he's allowed to compete in?

What did ANYONE do about the stolen election of 2004? It remains stolen.

[Straight Shooter]

80. Have you researched the history of the HLR and where those people are now?

I tried, and I could find nothing on former HLR editors. I don't even know what their reasons are for choosing any one particular HLR. So I'm not impressed. Again, he's intelligent.

When he invents something to make the world a better place, when he brings Israel and Palestine together in peace, I'll call him brilliant, 'kay? Right now he's just a smooth-talkin' politician. Like Reagan.

[undeterred]

87. And you think Hillary should be president instead of him??

:rofl:

[Straight Shooter]

91. Why, yes, I do.

How perspicacious of you.

:hi:

[cbayer]

94. I had to look that one up

and I was also the head of something at some point in my life.

:rofl:

[dchill]

93. because they're both black?

Check.

[undeterred]

96. Those black people can't bowl worth a darn either.

[dchill]

98. Didn't people used to say that about...

golf, too?

[undeterred]

100. yes, and swimming

apparently they don't float

Now that Tiger Woods, he can golf, but he's partly Asian, you know :hi:

[undeterred]

46. I'll run through sniper fire with my daughter if you call him an actor again

Oh wait, that was just a misremembering.

[im10ashus]

37. Well, then so be it.

If nothing else, we can sort out who REALLY is a Democrat and who is Democrat-lite and/or Impostor-Democrats. Granted, Hillary makes me ill. BUT, if she gets the nomination, I will pull the lever for her rather than letting the Repugs run this country COMPLETELY into the ground. WHY? Because I am a Democrat. True Blue Democrat. Time to purge the Party of all the centrists. They've done nothing but pander to the right.

[Justice Is Comin]

47. Put er there pal.

I turn him off as quick as bush. I know what he is. Phony finger wagging opportunist bullshitter.

[grantcart]

9. this will help you

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9600.html

[maddiejoan]

21. great ad!

Thanks for the head's up!

I agree with those PA voters!

[mzmolly]

10. She drinks Whiskey? Hmmm, I imagine it's a PTSD thing?

That Bosnia "sniper fire" incident had to be stressful. ;)

[npincus]

11. no, not psychotherapy. Shock treatments.

just kidding!

[JohnnyLib2]

13. The Committee will be by to visit soon.

You might want to prepare your family. :evilgrin:

[MercutioATC]

14. I thought she did fine at the "Compassion" thingie and I don't have a problem

with her drinking a shot on the campaign trail.

However, I don't completely erase my past experiences every time I encounter a new one. Clinton hasn't done badly in the past 24 hours (unless you count her "bitter" ad) and that gets weighed into the cumulative sum of my impression of her. 24 hours of relatively inoffensive behavior doesn't make a huge difference for me, though.

[Emit]

16. You're just flabbergasted

You'll get over it soon enough

[Cha]

18. Yeah, the Bosnian Sniper Liar is

just your cup of tea when you need a good reason to stay in the old school politics of bush, clinton, bush.. no, really..it's quite alright that she's got you fooled.

"Why Hillary’s Lies are Important"

- March 24, 2008, 9:53PM
Hillary Clinton has been caught in a series of lies and misrepresentations during the primary campaign. To some of her supporters, these lies may seem trivial and insignificant and even politics-as-usual. However, please consider the serious impact of these lies by placing them in the context of the past seven years of the Bush Administration and the legacy of expanded executive power that he leaves behind. In particular, consider the dangerous message that the Clinton campaign sends by employing similar tactics to achieve her political goals.

1. The Florida and Michigan Primaries / The Delegate Count
Hillary agreed to honor the DNC’s decision to strip Florida and Michigan of its delegates after their primaries were moved up into January in express violation of the DNC rules. She did not change her position on the validity of these primaries until she found herself unexpectedly behind in the delegate count and desperately needed to claim the delegates that she had won in these unsanctioned contests. As her chances of winning the nomination became increasingly slim in recent weeks, we have been presented with threatening and desperate lines of reasoning for why these primary results should count as is. At the same time, Clinton and her surrogates continue to propose different metrics for determining who should win the nomination even though there is and has been a clearly defined process in place for several decades.

Please think about the implications of changing election rules after the fact. We have suffered through at least one stolen presidential election and the manipulation of untold numbers of Congressional and state elections through various vote tampering and voter intimidation schemes used by the Republicans and their allies. The American people (and especially Democratic voters) have lost faith in the integrity of the election process. The Clinton strategy to continually change the rules for determining the Democratic Party nominee sets a dangerous precedent that could lead to increasingly un-Democratic elections in the future if it is allowed to succeed. If anything, we need more transparency and methods of accountability in our elections in order to repair the damage done in recent years and to restore our confidence in the Government.

2. The Bosnia Fabrication / Exaggerated Experience Claims
Hillary fabricated a story about a dangerous, life-risking visit to Bosnia in order to gain stature as an experienced negotiator in international conflicts and war. While this type of embellishment can seem almost comical, it represents a willingness to distort reality in order to influence the public perception. This is the same type of distortion that the Bush administration used to justify the war in Iraq, although the magnitude of the lie is certainly on a different scale. The Bush administration falsified reports, cherry-picked intelligence, used unreliable sources, and employed fear-mongering tactics to convince the American public that our safety was at risk and as such, you were either with us or with the terrorists. The lies used by President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are impeachable offenses and should be condemned by all Americans. Sadly, the Clinton campaign seems to have shown a shocking willingness to employ the same tactics to create a more favorable reality and to rely on divide-and-conquer rhetoric to weaken opposition. Her attempts to frighten the American people by conjuring up 3 AM phone calls are bad enough, but her vote of confidence in John McCain over Barack Obama should be seen as treason against the Democratic Party.

3. NAFTA
Hillary lied about her position on NAFTA and used her lies in a calculated way to influence the Ohio primary. Recently released White House documents confirm that Hillary had been an active proponent of NAFTA prior to its passage, and she has continued to support it publicly in her speeches and memoir. However, while campaigning in Ohio, she claimed to have been privately against NAFTA during the Clinton presidency and believes that it should be rewritten to protect American jobs and workers. This type of maneuvering is reminiscent of the behind-closed-doors policy-making that the Bush administration has used during the past seven years. Specifically, Bush and Cheney have made policy decisions without providing transparency to Congress or the public, and President Bush has repeatedly ignored the rule of law by issuing signing statements and disregarding the parts of the laws that he doesn’t agree with. If we cannot trust Hillary to be truthful about her positions on critical legislative issues now, how can we trust that she will be truthful as president?

These are just three examples that illustrate the concerns we should have with a candidate who demonstrates a sense of entitlement to the nomination and is willing to lie, misrepresent, threaten, and divide in order to obtain the nomination. President Bush and the neoconservative movement have greatly harmed this country by the creation of an imperial-like presidency. This election is not just about whether a Democrat or Republican wins but if the checks and balances are restored to the three branches of government. The framers of the Constitution were in such fear of an imperial president that mechanisms for impeachment are prominently and explicitly included in the Constitution. If Hillary Clinton is willing to use lies and deceit to win the Democratic nomination, what assurances do we have that she will not continue to use them once she is president?
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/why-h ...

<snip>

"Her response to being caught lying to a military audience, when she invented a story about being under sniper fire in Bosnia, was to say it wasn't surprising she got some things wrong, seeing how she spoke millions of words every day. What a magnificent idea, that if you say lots of words some of them are bound to be fantastic lies. So if you listen carefully to horse-racing commentators they say things like "And it's Teddy's Boy still leading three furlongs out as they come up to the fourth last fence with Nip and Tuck two lengths behind by the way I fought a tiger once, punched it clean out and they're all safely over."


<lots more>
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/opinion/article3 ...

"It's not that lying to pad the resume, avoid Indictment or to advance her political fortune is anything new for Hillary Clinton. She famously said she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary (debunked); she told New Yorkers she was a Yankee fan when she lived in Chicago (debunked); she told rural New Yorkers that she was a "duck hunter" (debunked); she claimed that her daughter Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center at the time of the 9/11 attack (debunked by Chelsea herself.) And, those subpoenaed Rose Law billing records just happened to show up one day on a hallway table in the most monitored home in America!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Clintonista2]

36. Another Obama supporter stuck in stage 2!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5501284&mesg_id=5501284

[dailykoff]

19. Fine, phone her up for a date.

Just be sure to bring a barf bag. :)

[AllentownJake]

22. Do you live in PA

If you do wait till you see her new TV ad...the feelings will return in spades.

[democrattotheend]

23. I have moments where I feel twinges of sympathy

But right now, I am not just bitter but MAD AS HELL over her new attack ad, and if you take a look at it it should wipe away any sympathy you might have felt. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Clinton_Pennsylvania.html

[MoonRiver]

28. I like her too! Surprise, ;o)

I hope you get to know her better, cause the more you know the more you like! I was one of her biggest detractors before the Dem primary, and well, the rest is history! :hi:

[mountainvue]

29. HRC is the real deal. n/t

[KaptBunnyPants]

32. Remember what she's trying to do.

She would subvert your right to self determination for her own personal power. It's the very hallmark of a tyrant and a villain, and it's no more sympathetic just because she is failing in her attempt.

[Justice Is Comin]

70. Bullshit.

She's learned on the campaign trail feeling and seeing peoples needs. It has morphed her completely from her former thoughts. She's not the same corporate wonk or terror bullshit buyer she was.

She will take up the cause of the middle class like few have ever seen.

String bean started out a phony, still is, and always will be.

[Phillycat]

33. I have always liked her.

It's only on DU and right-wing sites that she's hated.

[Armstead]

40. Just watch one of her recent speechs of phony outrage against Obama

if that doesn't cure you nothing will.

[Mezzo]

41. wait for it...WAIT for it...

something else will happen so over the top, you will jump ship. Now, to be clear here, these candidates share 95% of the same voting record so...

with me it was Harry and Louise.

[Auntie Bush]

48. Are you saying you are like those people that

go to church on Sunday and then spend the rest of the day cursing people out with foul language? I know some people like that.

[Flabbergasted]

69. I'd never admit that here. I have a reputation to uphold...

:)

[Auntie Bush]

76. Do I know you?

Shhhh...I won't tell.

I'll post it in the lounge. Heh, heh

[Flabbergasted]

84. Listen Here Auntie: If You blow my cover you're in deep shit.....

:toast:

[Auntie Bush]

86. Blub! blub! blub! gasp! blub.

Someone's had too much to drink!

[Flabbergasted]

92. Mocking one of god's chosen will not help your chances at the Pearly Gates. I will pray for you.

[Auntie Bush]

95. I'm flabbergasted!

You'd pray for me? A fellow sinner! I'll return the favor. :hug:

[ginnyinWI]

49. last night's program? she left feeling empty.

She seemed so robotic, and what she said just went around and around in circles until I couldn't make sense of it--and I was really trying to listen. She was talking like I've heard very overtired people talk--and was impatient for it to be over with. The audience was similarly underwhelmed.

Did you hear the audience when Obama walked it? It was like they woke up from a bad dream. His answers were clear and logical. He seemed warm and connected to the audience.

[tekisui]

51. It will pass. I have felt something before......

give it a few days, I guarantee she will push you away again. I would be willing to bet on it.

[Condem]

54. You're the only one.

[jillan]

55. If someone would have told me that I would end up supporting Hillary

I would have told them they were insane.

She got to me too....

I noticed that even Stephanie Miller, who used to bash her non-stop, has been saying that she really likes Hillary.

She's a great lady, inspite of all the crappy politics.

[Condem]

59. Hey , pirhana

When haven't you been supporting Hillary?

[Flabbergasted]

85. A lot of people here were "ABC" from the very begining. When 8 become 2...

some had a change of heart.

[jillan]

105. I am a huge Biden supporter.

When he dropped out, I went for Obama; but Hillary won me over.

Biden is still my candidate.

[BlooInBloo]

57. She's gone from despicable to tragic to comedic for me....

C'mon!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/watch-obama-on-annie-oakl_n_96459.html

[SoCalDem]

60. I see her as a 60 yr old woman who has put up with a LOT

She's been publicly humiliated by a horn-dog cheating husband..she's been hounded by the republicans for decades, and this was to be her pay-back..

She honestly feels like she earned it..was entitled to it..and then this charismatic young guy comes from nowhere and is trying to take it all away..

She's apparently ready to self destruct, in order to take him down.. kind of like a suicide bomber, in an odd way..and she's willing to kill him, herself and the party and its chance at making a slam-dunk..

Mc Cain is proud of her and probably loves her more than Ms Cindy, at this point :)

[BlooInBloo]

68. In the large, the same happened with Dole. The details differ, obviously.

[SoCalDem]

74. yep it was his turn too..

and the man of the moment won..

You would think that they of all people would recognize Kismet when they see it

[totodeinhere]

61. There's nothing wrong with liking Hillary.

I have always liked her personally although I don't approve of some of her campaign's tactics. It's possible to support one candidate while still liking the other.

This thing about not liking Hillary has mostly been foisted on us by the RW media. But from what I've read, in person she is a very personable and likable person. And as an Obama supporter I have no problem with saying that.

[JoFerret]

63. "Faith in public life"

What a nauseating concept.

[AtomicKitten]

71. Nah, I'm pretty sure I dislike her intensely.

[HopeforChange]

72. They did an extra good job with the Botox for the Compassion Show

[rodeodance]

79. and they taped BHO ears flat for the show also

[Condem]

82. Rodeo

Lincoln had elephant ears. In fact, Whitman said, he was so ugly he was beautiful.

[Condem]

88. Yeah, rodeo

Didn't think you'd touch a Whitman quote.

[rodeodance]

97. oh good, ok . its open season on big ears

[my3boyz]

73. Run to the dr! LOL nt

[L0oniX]

83. No one ever comes back from the dark side ...Luke.

[JackORoses]

89. Don't give in to this urge. It is a trap.

I made the same mistake during the Mavs - Heat Champinship Series a few years back.
The Mavs were kicking the Heats asses so bad that I started feeling sorry for the Heat towards the end of Game 3.
Then the Heat came back and won 4 in a row.

Never again.

Hillary is a horrendously sore Loser and a Liar of wide reknown.
She should go and she should go now.

She has betrayed the Democratic Party. She is irredeemable.

Always Remember...

[Bonaparte]

90. Hillary is not a bad person, she is just behaving improperly

Trying to echo Republican talking points and exaggerating Obama's comments in San Francisco.

[donheld]

99. She also is getting some very verfy bad advice

:hi: Welcome to DU

[Straight Shooter]

101. I don't know what that word "verfy" is, but it has a nice ring to it.

May I appropriate it? TIA.

:hi:

[smiley_glad_hands]

106. Is this the thread where all you Hill supporters get to claim some kind of mandate?

Nice psyops.