Hillary, IMO, just played one of the dirtiest damned tricks ever played

[rateyes]

in presidential politics. I said before that I would vote for the Democratic nominee, whomever he/she might be. I'm rescinding that pledge right now.

[Stephanie]

1. I'm with you.

[rateyes]

4. I thought she was better than this.

I'm severely disappointed in her.

[Cha]

39. I knew she wasn't and

each day brings new evidence. Thanks for posting.

[Stephanie]

66. I've been severely disappointed in her since 2002

I can't exactly say I'm surprised but I am appalled.

[NightWatcher]

2. no you're not. you are gonna vote for the Dem nominee

and Obama is his name-O

[PoliticalAmazon]

77. I'm voting for Obama; I don't care whose name is on the ballot....

...He's the best candidate for the White House. I won't vote for anyone but the best, and I certainly won't vote for Beazalbub in drag, Hillary Clinton.

[backscatter712]

93. Fortunately, Obama is going to be the nominee

Clintonistas can have all the delusions they want, but the fact is that Obama is going to be the nominee for the Democratic Party.

She's already lost. The math is insurmountable at this point, and the way the polls are going in Pennsylvania, after that contest is over, even if she squeaks by with a victory, the math will be even worse for her.

[MadBadger]

3. Which trick?

[rateyes]

9. I wonder who in the hell secretly recorded that meeting

so that Hillary could twist the words around.

[ruggerson]

20. So Obama says something mildly inartful and you blame

Hillary for moving his mouth?

[Hepburn]

23. Oh, please....

...you are more intelligent than to post bullcrap like this.

[ruggerson]

40. Read what the OP is saying

he's not clear on where the recording came from. He think Hillary released this to the press.

[rateyes]

25. No, I blame Hillary for twisting his words...

and for calling him an elitist when there is no one more elitist in this race than Hillary. Wonder how she got a recording of a CLOSED meeting?

[tritsofme]

35. I guess us peons shouldn't know what is going on at a $2000 a plate CLOSED dinner?

Maybe that was just Barack being Barack, and its finally trickling out.

[Hepburn]

60. IGNORE is our friend...

...click.

[tritsofme]

63. Adios.

[blm]

94. Why wasn't she faux outraged when he said it many times since 2004?

Face it - Hillary only cared that she got to use San Francisco as code just like the GOP does. THAT is Hillary being Hillary, and it's finally being noticed by more Democrats.

[ruggerson]

37. She didn't get a recording

it was posted on Huffpo, an OBAMA leaning website, and the media picked it up from there.

[Emit]

48. And it's not even that she twisted his words, it's that she continues to twist them

knowing full well what he meant, and even after he has clarified, added and expanded on his comments. That's the thing, IMO.

[tritsofme]

53. Politics is a blood sport.

The McCainiacs will hit Obama 100 times harder with quotes like this than Hillary ever will.

[Emit]

72. You act like all Obama supporters were born yesterday

And you miss the point, entirely. She's in it for selfish reasons with this kind of politicking. McCain can bring it on, and we will counter it. I expect better from the Democrats, period, including Hillary. Her fighting like this within the party is distasteful and does not represent what Democrats stand for. It is expected from the Repugs. Not from Democrats.

[earthlover]

71. Not even McCain called Obama an elitist. Hillary is worse

[dchill]

31. A Faux Obama supporter - "Mayhill Fowler."

Faux Obama Supporter Mayhill Fowler Smears Obama:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/faux-obama-supporter-mayh_b_96379.html

[C_U_L8R]

58. Well if they got their donation money from Hillary

then they broke the law.

[stillcool]

73. here's the full recording...

full Recording...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-exclusive-audio-on_b_96333.html

And here are some other articles written for Huffington Post by blogger Mayhill Fowler...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler

[rodeodance]

5. you are OUTRAGED once AGAIN. oh my my.

[rateyes]

12. Not outraged...

bitter.

[haymakeragain]

19. You hillarians get paid by the "bitter" don't you.

Another quarter coming your way. It's positively GOPlike, the goose-stepping.

[rateyes]

43. I'm the writer of the OP,

not a 'hillarian.' I was making a joke.

[Auntie Bush]

44. But, but, but, I thought it was Obama that said PAers were bitter?

[emilyg]

50. Facts are not important when dealing with Obama supporters.

[rateyes]

54. Yeah, they are...

that's why Obama supporters are pissed at the twisting of the facts.

[rodeodance]

61. No, they aren't

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

83. Huh?

[emilyg]

13. And just had to let us know.

[rateyes]

17. Yep.

[Hepburn]

22. Yeah....

...it figures you would still just adore her. :puke:

[emilyg]

47. You bet I do.

I like strong, smart people.

[rateyes]

55. And, devious ones too, it would seem. nt

[oasis]

24. Panic abounds in the Obama camp. Is "Bittergate" Obama's "Dean Scream"?

[stillcool]

74. no it's his Reverend Wright/Rezko/Muslim...

too black, not black enough moment.

[goldcanyonaz]

6. I rescinded that pledge long ago.

Oh well, better luck next time.

[anonymous171]

7. I'm getting really, REALLY close to that point right now.

:grr:

[papau]

10. As are the Hillary supporters re any general election Obama vote.

[rateyes]

15. Why?

[Olney Blue]

8. Link?

[rateyes]

11. What rock have you been under?

Link, my ass.

[Olney Blue]

14. I just got home after working 12 hours.

[rateyes]

16. The "bitter" remark has been all over the news for the past

4 days.

[Olney Blue]

Yes, I heard about that- but what trick did Hillary play? She didn't make

him say it!

[Hepburn]

18. Make that another life-long, straight Dem ticket voter who will NEVER vote for Hillary.

Under NO circumstances will I vote for her if she is ~~ gawd fucking forbid ~~ the Dem nominee. I will either pass on the top of the ticket or write in Obama.

Fuck her.

[ruggerson]

26. I've talked to your scotties

they're worried about you.

[Hepburn]

34. I have ONE Scottie....

...and she hates Hillary, too. She says she is worried about you. Don't make her get up off of my bed and give you a talking to, OK?

:D

[ruggerson]

42. I have three mutts

which is how I know deep down you're a good person because they correspond regularly with your scotty.

[Hepburn]

46. LOL....

...well, she does have her own email account...and today she wrote to one of my friends and asked him for a pony. I would not put it past her to have other correspondence about which I, as her mother, am not aware!

:hi:

[TahitiNut]

32. I came to that conclusion long ago. She's unprincipled and destructive.

It's appalling, imho. :puke:

[Hepburn]

57. Yep....

...that describes her well. :hi:

[Mags]

21. so am I , I will never vote for BO.

[depakid]

27. You must not have been around politics long

or read much history....

Not surprising, tho- there seems to be an awful lot of that around here this time.

[MonkeyFunk]

56. no kidding!

I swear, this is everybody's first election.

[depakid]

69. If you consider the frequency (age) distribution

and guestimate the likely preference weighting, it probably is a good many GDP Obama supporters' first presidential election, or else the 1st election that they've really felt a part of.

Also, if you think about it- this is a demographic that's been brought up on the world wide web. On the positive side- there's a dynamic there that older, more experienced folks tend to lack- quick reaction and a sometimes healthy sense of outrage.

On the other hand, that's a two edged sword, because it also lends itself to shortsightedness and volatility.

(not to mention the usual troubles with rudeness and Manichean thinking we all go through as we mature).

[Auntie Bush]

28. Me too! I'm mad as hell and I'm not taking it anymore.

[BlooInBloo]

29. I'm 2nd to none in my derision of Hilarity Clinton, but anyone who doesn't vote for....

... the eventual Democratic nominee is a fucking jackass.

[rateyes]

49. I've been called worse.

But, this fucking jackass won't be voting for another one.

[PoliticalAmazon]

78. Hell, HILLARY has called you (and all Obama supporters) worse. n/t

[DesertFlower]

30. which one of her antics did it?

for me it was after she endorsed McCain 5 times.

[PoliticalAmazon]

79. For me, when she voted for the neocon agenda in the Senate. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

33. Her suck is strong, grasshopper.

[corkhead]

36. keep your recind in your pocket. You are not going to need it.

[EFerrari]

38. Yes, she did. Maybe it was fair game in the short run

and it likely won't harm Obama in the long run.

It will just make more work in the GE.

But it was ugly as hell.

This woman whose husband took 80k from the same people in Colombia that are murdering labor organizers in the thousands every year -- she's trying to say she's for labor. The same person whose top aide just met with the same Colombian butchers that attack their opponents with chain saws.

That Hillary Clinton.

The same person who last night implied that San Francisco is full of elites less American than anyone else. Shit. Maybe she should come out here by the beach and visit with the homeless people. Or I could take her on the foreclosure tour or the closed small business tour or the closed clinic tour. We're latte liberal elites, all right. Unemployed ones fighting the highest fuel prices in the country and watching our salaries tank in relation to the economy just like every one else.


WHERE WILL YOU SPEND THAT COLOMBIAN BLOOD MONEY, HILLARY?

Not in my White House, you hypocrite. Not if I can help it.

:nuke:

[symbolman]

91. I agree with you and the OP 100% BUT,

it was 800K that Bill Clinton stashed in their account from the Colombians - which of course SHE is using NOW as I understand it ..

THAT is the question I want her to answer NOW, and not Cackle Off like she did the very day she began the Bitter War against her fellow Dem, my buddy Obama...

I Believe THAT is one question, that total conflict of Interest that will bring her and her Sugar Daddy down in this blundering mess of a campaign.. And isn't Penn STILL advising her? That's what I heard, and this petty ass, henhouse chickenshit has His Fingerprints all over it ..

To be honest, I think she's got Rove himself advising her, and he's fucking all of us over and laughing his ass off, knowing they're going to steal it for McWar anyway...

[billyoc]

41. Stick around, it's only Monday.

You ain't seen shit yet. :rofl:

[rateyes]

51. Yeah, I've seen shit.

And, I've smelled it, too.

[The_Casual_Observer]

45. Who cares?

[rateyes]

52. I don't know.

You replied.

[FightingIrish]

59. She has definitely hit a new low with me

I'm not ready to say I'll vote against my party in any circumstances, but if I have to vote for her in the GE, I'm glad I live on Oregon. Here I can mail it in.

[mod mom]

62. As this campaign continues on more and more people are realizing the type of person

Hillary is-a political opportunist who places her own goals ahead of the nation or party. There is a reason she chose such a despicable person as Mark Penn as her chief strategist.

[Scurrilous]

64. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Mezzo]

65. sure harry and Louise was nothing. Man you're a hypocrite. nt

[anonymous171]

67. Can you PLEASE post a link to whatever you are talking about. nt

[Mezzo]

86. Obama ran a republican ad from the 90's against Hillary in Ohio. It's called Harry and Louise.

[PM7nj]

68. I've seen you bring this up about 500 times...

is that really all you have? Is a (factual) campaign flier worse than siding with Karl Rove, Grover Norquist, and John McCain?

[stillcool]

76. I can't see that poster...

are they referring to this?

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.

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Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

[PM7nj]

80. Yup that one!

[stillcool]

81. they just keep recycling...

this shit. If at first you don't succeed try and try again, and again, and again, and again..:rofl:

[Mezzo]

89. or your guy keeps recycling republican ads...

:rofl: :popcorn:

[Mezzo]

88. whose using the ad of Karl Rove, Grover Norquist and John McCain, but IOKIYBO. nt

[Skip Intro]

70. What trick?

[bridgit]

75. Ah, it's like Colonel Sanders secret recipe

As such it *must* be finger lick'n good:9

[Two Americas]

82. oh stop it

This is ripping the party apart. It is not helping the Obama campaign. It is crippling us going in to the general.

[pompano]

84. The one that sticks in my craw.....

was during the debates when the moderator (forget now) wanted each candidate to come forward with a shortcomming of theirs.

True to test Obama talked about his lack of day to day organizational skills. Everybody has some faults. Notice he answered first. Then Hillary went on a tirade about she cared too much for poor people. What a phonie with a Higher case P. That was the start of her gutter campaign tactics as far as I'm concerned. Then she got worse, much worse. IOW, she used the plight of poor people to make a political jibe and then spit in their face again by seizing the moment and not having to admit any of her own shortcommings. Unconscienceable!!!

Edwards didn't do much better, IIRC. But he did get over it and beyond it. She has played that phonie card when it suits her non stop from the beginning.

She makes me sick to my stomach sometimes. I voted for the Clintons, twice. I must have been drunk, ya think?

[RaleighNCDUer]

85. What's it called, throwing out your line as you drift, to see what you hook?

Trolling?

[Kittycat]

87. At this point, I seriously quesiton if HRC Is a Democrat.

She certainly doesn't act like one.

[deerheadgal]

90. Why Won't She End It Now!

She has no chance. It's all over for her and I want desperately to still like her. At least she could leave with some shreds of integrity and respect still left. If this continues much longer, she's going to be in the same corner of the party that Joe Lieberman is in.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

92. Hi RE - I feel your pain ! What trick are you referring to? There are so many !