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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:59 PM
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Poll question: In light of Hillary's nasty attack ad, should Obama counter with a Sniper-gate ad?
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:00 PM
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1. no she's self destructing
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:01 PM
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2. No
She got booed at two events today and at the Philadelphia Jefferson Jackson dinner she was ignored.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:01 PM
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3. He needs to come up with a super positive ad.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:03 PM
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9. Great idea! nt
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:01 PM
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4. No, he's better than that
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:02 PM
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5. His message ads are awesome.
Don't change a thing. It's working!
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erasmus Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:06 PM
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14. No
On a culpability scale of 1 to 100 'Bittergate' comes it at the full century and 'Snipergate' (so-called) might register at 0.001.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:02 PM
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6. He has refused to hit her below the belt. That's why he is winning.
Oh, and he's smarter than she is.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:03 PM
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7. No. He will need Clinton supporters in November
He can attack back on things she attacks him on but he should let others attack her on Sniper-gate.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:16 PM
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22. If Hillary runs on a fractured democratic third ticket
She will need to play the victim. Obama needs to deflect her attacks,

and still be gracious to her while she withers on the vine.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:03 PM
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8. No. He's leading. He needs not take any stupid risks. nt
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:03 PM
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10. No. Colombia, NAFTA, lobbyists and the bankruptcy bill n.t
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:04 PM
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12. I agree. Those are real issues that people care about
and such an add would come across as fair and important.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:04 PM
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11. No, Hillary is in the toilet slinging shit and everyone knows it.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 09:04 PM by bowens43
Obama can just sit back and watch the crazy banshee self destruct.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:05 PM
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13. No. He's showing how classy he is. He might should if things look
really bad, but just maybe he doesn't want to win that way. I commend him.
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erasmus Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:12 PM
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20.  The mainstream media have been scraping every barrel trying
to tear Hill down. A blind eye has been turned by them to Barrack 'bitterness you can believe in' Obama's serial 'gates'. She owes it to the American public to cast a light on this silvery tongued pseudo-messiah seeing that nobody else will.
This add is AWESOME!
I am overjoyed by the WHINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE from the BO camp.
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, and take your pillows with you!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:13 PM
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30. WOW! I didn't even get a chance to respond before you got served pizza!
Great job, MODS! :toast:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:07 PM
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15. No, he should hit her with it in the debate....something like this:
We can assume that a question about the candidate's statements over the course of the primary and how those statements will effect their electibility in the general election will be asked. Without going negative, here's what I'd love to see Obama say...

(you'll forgive my lack of speechwriting experience...my goal is to provide basic content, not eloquence)



"It's been a long primary season. There's always going to be something you wished you'd worded better...something you wish you'd spent more time clarifying. Over the course of fourteen months, something's going to come out in a way that leaves it open to negative interpretation, regardless of how true you feel the message is. Obviously, I have some recent experience with that. (smile)

I believe that voters are smart and tolerant enough to understand that. If you give them a real message...if you tell them the truth...they'll see the value of that message and forgive the occasional awkwardness of its delivery.

What voters will not tolerate are lies. They've spent decades being lied to, and they're tired of it. Don't tell them that things are fine when their own experience tells them different. Don't tell them that you've tried to protect their jobs from being sent overseas when you've spent years supporting free trade agreements...and have your own chief campaign strategist trying to sell a free trade agreement to Columbia. Don't tell them that you were under sniper fire...and then repeat that lie three more times when their sons and daughters are dying every day in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The American people are smart enough to see what the issues really are and to forgive an imprecise word or two if they believe in the truth of the message. All they ask is your attention and your honesty. I feel that I've given them that."
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:08 PM
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16. No, she can't fit any more feet in her mouth as it is...Plus we have Bill who still tries regardless
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:09 PM
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17. No, he shouldn't stoop to her level.
Respond to her absurd attacks of course, but not roll around in the subterranean slime with her.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:11 PM
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18. Absolutely not! Hillary is doing fine all by herself.
The media did the job of exposing Sniper gate. He should leave it alone and not bring it up, because if he does then he will appear petty like she is. She has carried on for 4 days of the bitter people blah..blah..blah..
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:11 PM
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19. No, she deserves it, but he's better than that.
A lot of Obama's appeal is that he might move us away from the old politics of Bush, Rove, and (apparently) Clinton.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:35 PM
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24. The problem is, she knows she can get away with stuff like this
With little or no push back. I know she's digging her own grave but what if she isn't? What if it sticks?
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:44 PM
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25. Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 09:46 PM by nsd
I'm worried about that too, but I just think we gotta have some faith in the American people. 2008 feels like a different kind of year: people are fed up (some are even "bitter"), they don't want to hear the same old bullshit, they're ready to listen to a politician who talks to them like adults. That's what Obama is. Even people who disagree with his policy prescriptions respect him (as long as they listen with open ears) because they realize he respects them and isn't playing these old games. I don't want to lose that.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:12 PM
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21. Bill did a pretty good job
of putting a maraschino cherry on top of that confabulation.
Only a Clinton can seem to stack a lie that high.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:34 PM
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23. No point. She's had a giant fork sticking out of her back for well over a month now.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 09:35 PM by Walter Sobchak
He doesn't stand to gain anything by running a pointless negative ad. It'll only drive up his negatives.

Hillary hasn't been a real candidate for quite a while now. She's merely a disrupter desperate for attention.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:45 PM
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26. No, what the hell is wrong with you?
Stupid "poll":silly: :dunce:
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:46 PM
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27. Maybe with a Mark Penn ad.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:47 PM
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28. That's how you would know Obama is in trouble.
Hillary is obviously in trouble and is throwing the kitchen sink at Obama.

If Obama starts going negative, then you know their internals say its working.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:49 PM
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29. No stay above the fray BUT if some 525 would like to I'll be glad to donate only
I'd like to see the video of her squirming when questioned about Bill's $800,000 for advocating for free Trade with Colombia.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:17 PM
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31. Why sink to her level?
I saw that ad and I was offended by the frigging ad.

People who use their faith for comfort should not be offend by Obama's words as the ad implied. That's BULLSHIT.

In the words of "The Boxer": All lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. That's the people who feign outrage at Obama's comments.
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