Barack will cost us the White House.

[Tennessee Gal]

[GarbagemanLB]

1. Relax, put your six shooters down, and take a shot of whiskey. You sound really bitter...

[Tennessee Gal]

5. Bitter? Maybe just realistic.

[woolldog]

your reality is a product of your environment, rural TN.

Most of us don't live in your environment. So we have a different take on things. You don't speak for the rest of the country. Not every state is as backward as TN

[Tennessee Gal]

54. You are showing your own ignorance.

[woolldog]

60. about as well argued as your OP.

Well done.

[Mags]

104. got hope, na, just bitter commets about small town America.

You had bette have hope, cause that is about all Obama has left.

[Tennessee Gal]

160. Ignore it at the peril of the Democratic Party.

[JackORoses]

175. Tennessee wouldn't even vote for Al Gore, and he was a Native Son

Noone should judge Obama's chances based on Tennessee

[AspenRose]

189. "Harold! Call me!"

Sound familiar?

[last_texas_dem]

146. Do you really think that the political climate of wherever you live in TN

is a good reflection of the United States as a whole, so that you can make assertions about nationwide politics based on your town/city?

(And yeah, I don't expect you'll reply; you didn't respond the other couple of times I brought this up on your substance-less thread from the other day.)

[Tennessee Gal]

151. No.

However, Democrats I am in contact with will definitely not vote for Obama in the GE.

If Democrats will not vote for Obama, how do you think he will fair?

Many are very afraid of Obama and say they will just not vote in the GE.

Do you think that bodes well?

[last_texas_dem]

163. A few things

I am from a southern "red" state like you, and one thing worth keeping in mind is that we have a fair amount of "Democrats" who never vote for Democrats for President. Many of them haven't actually voted for a Democrat on the Presidential level since Carter in '76.

Speaking anecdotally, I have run into more people who would consider voting for Obama than Clinton. (And I do not live in a liberal area; I currently live in a county that voted 60-percent for Bush in '04; McCain will likely win it by a similar margin.) I have only run into one "Democrat" who would vote for Clinton but wouldn't for Obama. His reason: "I don't want a n*gger in the White House." I am wondering if these are the type of people you are meeting who are "very afraid" of Obama. The thing is, at least if you can trust national polls, there are more people willing to vote for a black man than to vote for a woman- so it would appear that there are more people who just flat-out won't vote for Clinton than just flat-out won't vote for Obama. Either way, we won't be getting a certain percentage of voters regardless of whether we run Clinton or Obama. However, most of them are likely Repugs anyway.

And no, I don't think your report bodes well, but I wasn't counting on TN helping us anyway. They chose the Chimp over their own former Senator Gore in 2000, and have been moving more and more towards being a solid Repug state in recent years. TN may very well be one of those states where Clinton would run stronger than Obama in the general; KY, AR, WV, and FL are some likely others. I just don't think that necessarily indicates that Clinton would be a stronger candidate nationally.

[Tennessee Gal]

165. Thank you for you intelligent post.

One comment:

"I have only run into one "Democrat" who would vote for Clinton but wouldn't for Obama. His reason: "I don't want a n*gger in the White House." I am wondering if these are the type of people you are meeting who are "very afraid" of Obama."

No they are not those type of people.

[woolldog]

166. this site gives Obama a 1% chance of carrying TN; and Clinton

a 14% chance.

It's a solid red state and shouldn't fit into the nomination calculus. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

[Bake]

190. NO single state is a "good reflection" of the US as a whole.

Not Kansas, not Iowa, not New Hampshire, and sure as hell not Massachusetts.

You might be surprised to know that Nashville is a solid Democratic bastion, one of the few in the South, by the way. How do you know where TG lives, anyway, or even that she's making her statement based on the political climate where she lives? I didn't see that in the OP.

Bake

[last_texas_dem]

202. That was my point

She had posted a thread a few hours before this one talking about all of the Democrats where she lives not being willing to vote for Obama, and pointing to this as an indication of how he would do nationally. My point is that you can't do much in the way of making generalizations about national elections based on your little corner of the world.

[Mags]

81. your crap is exactly why BO is not going to win.

what arrogance. Where are you from? I guess the slums in a city.

[dchill]

110. So, who IS going to win?

McCain/Clinton '08?

[woolldog]

117. I've lived all over.

[damonm]

125. Now, that is flat-out uncalled for...

despite the fact I agree with you that Obama will beat McCain like he stole something.

A little civility doesn't hurt, ya know.

[woolldog]

132. what did I say that was untrue?

[Bake]

191. So you've been "all over" ... I bet you've never set foot in side the Volunteer State

Bake

[woolldog]

205. No I've never been to TN.

But I know some people who grew up there. They'd back me up on this as far as what the culture there is like.

[Bake]

208. Oooh. You "know some people ..."

I grew up there, and my family still lives there. So I think I'm maybe just a wee bit more qualified to comment than you are.

Nashville (for starters) is solidly Democratic. There's a strong Dem presence in TN and frankly, I think it's poised to go blue this election. It may not, however, if Obama is the nom, since TN went for Hillary, but that remains to be seen.

It's not as backward as you think. Nor is it as backward as it used to be.

Bake

[woolldog]

211. If you grew up there, deep in your heart, you know I'm right.

"I think it's poised to go blue this election."

:spray:

[Bake]

212. I know you're changing your tune now.

Which is it? Backwards rednecks, or poised to go blue?

Bake

[woolldog]

213. I was laughing at your comment.

TN is as red as a cherry tomato.

[Bake]

216. No, MS is red as a cherry tomato. TN is a bit purplish.

Tennessee, on the other hand, has a Democratic governor (Phil Bredesen), at least two strongly Dem major cities. If our chances this election are as strong as everybody here assumes (or hopes), then we've got as good a shot of turning TN blue as we do any red/purple state.

Bake

[Mags]

177. you sound like an elitist.

[Bake]

188. How fucking condescending of you! Just like your candidate.

First, not all of TN is rural, and you don't know where TG lives anyway. Apparently they're not so "backward" that they don't have internet connections ...

And what "progressive" state do you live in? No rednecks there, I suppose. God, you people really know how to win friends and influence people ...


Bake

[woolldog]

203. I agree with that.

Shame on you woolldog! :rofl:

[Scurrilous]

2. You've convinced me.

:thumbsup:

[ericgtr]

3. Ahh.. forgot to put you on ignore after your laste ignorant baseless statement

thanks for the reminder

[Tennessee Gal]

14. Go ahead.

[L0oniX]

94. Hey ...can I add you to my ignore list too? ...thanks in advance. See ya.

[EnviroBat]

174. My ignore-gun is overheating with these morons today...

I wonder how big the list will get?

[IsItJustMe]

159. Yep, one more for ignore. What drible?

[olkaz]

186. By the way, getting ignored is not a badge of honor.

We can accept intelligent debate. Promote your candidate.

But you're just flaming. So I'm going to ignore you too.

[anonymous171]

4. Can you tell me the next lottery numbers please?

[Snarkoleptic]

6. Hillary will cost us our ideals as well as hope.

[BeatleBoot]

32. A guy at work said the same thing to me today.

he was a Republican that supports Huckabee.

[blonndee]

7. Cogent argument! I concede to your irrefutable logic.

[Buzz Clik]

70. Not many holes in it.

Of coures, it's hard to poke a hole in something that doesn't exist.

[Tennessee Gal]

156. It does exist.

[Buzz Clik]

169. n/t

[dchill]

114. Picking off Obama supporters...

one at a time. Irrefutable logic is our cheesy mousetrap!
:hi:

[Tennessee Gal]

157. You have no logic.

You are mesmerized.

[Sinistrous]

167. Hey Folks! "Mesmerized": word-of-the-day from the clinton cult.

This is about the third time I've seen it used today.

It is so good to see you are in step with your marching orders.

[dchill]

171. I have logic. I live in Reality, PA

You wouldn't know logic if it sat on your head. Your bubble has burst and you still don't know it. Wake up and smell the fail.

[SoonerPride]

8. plonk

I have not time for morans anymore.

Line up and get off my screen.

OBAMA IS OUR NOMINEE AND WILL BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF MCCAIN.

[Patsy Stone]

9. Not if you work to get him elected

instead of posting doomsday threads, Little Mary Sunshine.

[Bake]

192. See, now that's the thing.

I won't work to get Obama elected. I won't give one dime to his campaign. I can't get excited about his messianic candidacy. I'm not even sure at this point that I can vote for him.

One reason for that is the pompous assholes who support him and who daily parade the same onslaught of abuse on Hillary supporters. Honestly, I've never seen such immature name-calling bullshit in my life. This is the worst DU has ever been, and I've been here since it began.

Bake

[Patsy Stone]

215. You are entitled to your opinion, and to act as you choose.

I, on the other hand, am not so petty as to let the Hillary supporters on DU and their anti-Obama sentiments stop me from working to get her elected over John McCain. I have a greater goal: more liberal judges appointed to the SCOTUS.

It seems a bit selfish to me to cause future generations to suffer at the hands of a right wing court because of some real or perceived slight of the candidate you'd prefer to win by people on an anonymous message board, don'tcha think?

[Bake]

217. No different than the countless Obamans who have said they won't vote for Hillary

if she should end up with the nomination. Why don't you go lecture them?

Bake

[Patsy Stone]

227. I lecture everyone.

:)

[Tennessee Gal]

10. Watch and see.

[DJ13]

11. All at once theres been 4 or 5 similar Obama bashing threads

Is it time for the night shift at Hillary HQ?

[pdxmom]

17. They do seem to all post the same thing at the same time. The faxes

with the talking points must have gone out.

[Rockholm]

27. The Hillary bashing threads start in the morning.

Guess equal bashing starts for Obama at night.

[beachmom]

39. New Peter Daou e-mail? nt

[Tennessee Gal]

57. Have no idea what you are talking about.

[beachmom]

88. It is well known that some Hillary bloggers are on an e-mail list from the campaign.

Perhaps you are not, but you are reading what other people are saying. I mean, your post is nearly identical to another one.

[Mags]

123. you folks are really grasping, do you really think that only people on her

list are the only ones for her? How stupid. I think that you and most of the BO talking points are paid for by the BO camp. That's why no one pays any attention to the crap. It's just a farce.

[Tesha]

183. Tennessee Gal posts her quota of these every day now. (NT)

[Buzz Clik]

12. Excellent detailed political analysis.

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[Tennessee Gal]

21. Look at history.

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[Buzz Clik]

38. What history, honey? The history of ... you know ... "those" kind of people.

I know what you mean. Dreadful.

Tell you what, Peach Blossom, why don't you and the mtnsnake go and pick out curtains. Your stereophonic posting habit is hardly a coincidence. Consummate the relationship already.

[Tennessee Gal]

45. The history of Democrats nominating unelectable candidates?

You did not know about that?

[EFerrari]

48. WTF history would that be?

I think you need more iron in your diet.

[Tennessee Gal]

50. Ever heard of Mondale or Dukakis or McGovern?

How old are you?

[Telly Savalas]

137. Ever heard of Truman, FDR, JFK, LBJ, Carter, or Bill Clinton?

How old are you?

[Tennessee Gal]

140. Yep. Sure have.

FDR came before Truman and worked against the great depression. Truman just barely beat Dewey. JFK just barely beat Nixon. LBJ became President when JFK was killed. LBJ won one election and refused to run again. Nixon then won two terms. Carter just barely beat Ford then lost to Reagan. Reagan then served two terms. Mondale lost overwhelmingly to Reagan. Bush then overwhelmingly beat Dukakis.

Your point.

Mine is made.

[EFerrari]

161. And again, I bring up that which you said was disgusting.

LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act.

And it took the party years to absorb that.

Your point is superficial bullshit that ignores the real lives of millions of Americans.

But, you know that, gal.

[Political Heretic]

182. And Al Gore AND John Kerry

Who both won.

[Snarkoleptic]

58. Karl....is that you?

Oh well, sit tight...Hillary's campaign is rapidly imploding!

[PoliticalAmazon]

76. Hillary is the Ultimate Unelectable Democrat...

1. She has torpedoed her own campaign nearly every day.

2. She has run her campaign using worse tactics than Bush Jr/Rove ever did, going so far as to make racist comments, and race-baiting.

3. She whines and plays the victim, and everybody hates a whiner and perennial victim.

4. Four words: Bill Clinton's Multiple Dick-Gates.

For more reasons why Hillary Clinton cannot win the GE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5280301&mesg_id=5281280

[damonm]

127. Please state why (WITH specifics) Obama is unelectable -

I look forward to picking off your points one by one.

[Tennessee Gal]

158. Because Democrats I am in contact with say they will not vote if

Obama is the nominee.

How would you convince them to change their minds?

[Lautremont]

209. You're "in contact with" a whole lot of Democrats right here on this board,

and I don't detect the sentiment of which you speak. If you're "in contact with" a whole other repository of Democrats who claim they won't vote if Obama is the nominee, let's hear a little more about them.

[damonm]

210. How would I convince them...?

OH BOY - that's a tough one. :sarcasm:

I would ask them to please tell me how an Obama presidency (given the miniscule policy differences between him and Clinton) could possibly be as bad as a McCain presidency.

-Would Obama appoint judges to overturn Roe V. Wade? McCain's said he thinks it should be overturned; Obama has said no such thing.

-Would Obama keep us in Iraq for 100 years, as McCain would?

-Would Obama take us into more wars? McCain says "I hate to tell you, but there's gonna be more wars."

-Would Obama continue with US use of torture, as McCain voted for?

-Would Obama vote to grant telecoms immunity for tapping our phones, as McCain has?

-Would Obama TALK about supporting the troops, but vote AGAINST increasing their benefits to preserve Bush's tax cuts, as McCain has done 10 times in the past 7 years?

-Would Obama have us sit back and do nothing while the economy implodes and the middle class gets screwed over and over and over again, as McCain would?

And lastly, do these "Democrats (you) are in contact with" LIKE the direction the country's headed now? Because staying home if Obama's the nominee is nothing short of enabling it to continue.

And quite frankly, if these people can tolerate ANY ONE of these things, I question whether or not they're Democrats.

[EFerrari]

46. "Peach Blossom"

:rofl:

[Buzz Clik]

65. I'm just trying to be seasonal in my insults.

[EFerrari]

77. The calla lilies are in full bloom.

[Buzz Clik]

143. I like that. Next time...

[Bake]

194. The peach blossom suggests Georgia

The Tennessee state flower is the iris. Try to keep up.

Bake

[Hepburn]

75. OMG....

...this is soooooo good. However, I don't believe the target audience will get it!

:rofl:

[Mags]

96. I am sure you won't cause your scottie has taken over.

however the real world will get it.

[dchill]

149. HERE's what the "real world" gets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwG4BlK8w_Y

[me b zola]

108. Did you get that line from Rush Limpballs?

Amazing how those whom claim to support Hillary rely on the radical rw for talking points and media assistance.

[cliffordu]

13. Blah de blah de blah blah blah. We got it, on to the next, please.

[Colobo]

15. You post something like this everyday.

[donheld]

26. She does seem to do this every single day with

absolutely nothing to back it up.

[Colobo]

16. You post something like this everyday.

[EFerrari]

25. Yesterday, it was "AMERICA WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!"

wink wink

(In all honesty, that's a paraphrase. It could have been inbred freepers will not vote for Obama.)

:puke:

[Tennessee Gal]

29. Nope.

Rarely post because of the enthrallment of the Obama supporters.

[EFerrari]

42. Actually, yes, you do. You can't post the stuff you do to this crowd

and expect to go under the radar.

[Tennessee Gal]

63. Two posts. Two days.

How many Obama lovers post?

[EFerrari]

82. That's right. And you've been called on your bs both days. n/t

[Tennessee Gal]

91. Ah, think you are right?

How long have I been here? How many posts do I have?

Point is - you don't know me nearly as well as you think you do.

[EFerrari]

100. There is no clairvoyance necessary to read your posts.

[Tennessee Gal]

121. Ya think? Perhaps you are not so wise.

[EFerrari]

153. We agree. Your posts as transparent as water. n/t

[LaurenG]

207. Lets see right at 2901 posts and you've been here since 2002

What do I win?

[Bake]

195. And yet there are almost 200 responses so far ...

Seems to draw the Obots like a moth to a flame ...

Bake

[Tellurian]

220. ....

:kick:

[DearAbby]

18. OH NO'S

:::this is where I run around screaming with my MuuMuu flying sexily around my fat ankles:::

[tularetom]

62. fat ankles???

stop making snarky references to HRC.

[DearAbby]

78. Sweetie

I would take a picture of them, and post it...but then I would have to silence you...my ankles are top secret. They are registered as lethal weapons with the Dept. of Defense. honest, If you don't believe me....ask me.

[tularetom]

89. I'm sorry - I thought you were referring to a more famous pair of

fat ankles.

:evilgrin:

[rodeodance]

90. they start that and it will be open season on big Ears

[Bake]

196. Uncalled for. You'll make us say something about Barry's ears ...

"Fly, Dumbo, fly!"

Bake

[PoliticalAmazon]

79. MY EYES! OH, MY EYES!! n/t

[Mags]

102. you are gross. You don't know enough to add to the conversation

so you flake it. Just gross.

[Emit]

119. What conversation would that be, Mags?

[EFerrari]

19. You really need to leave the compound more often.

:hi:

[Tennessee Gal]

133. Would that be the Obama compound?

Sorry. Never been there.

[donheld]

20. Your whining may cost us our sanity but, Obama has an

excellent chance of winning with long coat tails.

[WillyT]

22. Damn TG, Better Move Outta The Country... You Only Have A Few Months Left...

:shrug:

[im10ashus]

23. Give me a fucking break.

She's LOSING this contest and she was the PRESUMPTIVE nominee this time last year. What happened? The veil has been lifted. The man behind the curtain exposed. Billary is TOAST and they are doing ANYTHING to keep their name in the headlines. Desperation has no redeeming qualities. It's like breaking up with someone and yet they keep showing up wherever you are. They keep calling and calling until you have to block their calls and get a restraining order. Billary is like a bad break-up. They just can't take a hint.

[Catherina]

24. You really need to get out more n/t

[Speck Tater]

28. DU have devolved to nothing more than unsupported pronouncements.

What happened to reasoned argument? What happened to justifying a conclusion from stated facts or observations?

Now all people do on DU is to make ridiculous proclamations out of the clear blue with no supporting facts or arguments. It's so sad to see Dems resorting to the Rovian technique of endlessly repeating nonsense in the hope that people will start to believe that nonsense.

[Tennessee Gal]

31. History. Follow it.

[kwassa]

200. House. Paint it.

[cbayer]

115. So true and so well put.

It's the same statements over and over again with nothing to back them up and no apparent wish for dialog. I recognize it and, at the same time, am drawn to it. It is on it's face really boring but watching the dynamic go back and forth has me captured.

Once in a while you will stumble onto a thread where you can actually have a debate. It makes you think and research. Perhaps that is it.

But that's my problem..

[tularetom]

30. Who do you mean when you say "us"

cause he sure as shit ain't gonna cost the Democratic party the white house. He will probably cost the clintons the white house and that's good. He will most likely keep that old asswipe McCain put of there too. So who exactly is us?

[Tennessee Gal]

34. Democrats and you know it.

[EFerrari]

No, bullshit. You mean "democrats" like you who know "history"

and won't vote for Obama.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this shit here. Because it's as transparent as possible. "Gal".

[Tennessee Gal]

67. I am old enough to know the history of Democrats nominating

unelectable candidates.

[EFerrari]

Run it down for me. I'm all ears.

And, I've got my decoder ring handy, so do a good job.

[Tennessee Gal]

87. Humphrey, McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis.

ring a bell?

[EFerrari]

97. You have one warped history in hand there.

They killed Bobby who was the presumptive nominee.

I'll give you the other but can you name who ran against Carter and Clinton?

And, in the velvet depths of your soul, can you possibly understand what happened to this party after our leaders were assasinated? I don't think so.

And how do you account for Gore winning and not being seated and Kerry also winning and being cheated?

You have to reach back into the last century when the party was digging out of its trauma to call Democratic candidates losers.

And, I'm not in the least surprised that you do. :hi:

[Tennessee Gal]

124. Oh, good grief.

I did not mention Carter or Clinton.

I'll give you Humprhey because of Bobby. But the others make my point.

[EFerrari]

131. That was shortly after the South freaked out because they were told

that they had to let black people vote, remember?

Are you guys still back there or are you ready to join the new century?

[Tennessee Gal]

135. You really are disgusting.

[EFerrari]

150. I bet I disgust you three ways to Sunday.

And that's just fine with me.

[Bake]

197. Kerry, who immediately sold us out and folded like a cheap suit?

THAT John Kerry? The one who didn't lift a finger to fight the crooked vote count? If he did it because he was afraid they'd shoot him, he shouldn't have run in the first place. Anybody who runs for, or especially anybody who wins the presidency, is a potential target for SOME unhinged idiot. That's what the Secret Service is for. Kerry was a hero in Vietnam; I guess he lost his nerve somewhere between Da Nang and windsurfing or skiing in the Alps.

Yeah. That John Kerry.

Bake

[Bake]

198. Actually, I thought it was Obama who is "all ears."

:evilgrin:

Bake

[PoliticalAmazon]

86. Oh, you saw right through that, didn't you? n/t

[Erin Elizabeth]

33. There was a time when people actually posted

thoughtful brief essays on topics. Not just one-liners.

That being said, I'm bookmarking this, so you can apologize after election day.

[Tennessee Gal]

37. Yes there was a time like that.

But it is no longer useful. Haven't you noticed that? It happened right about the time that some of you fell in love with Obama.

[Erin Elizabeth]

49. Actually I think it happened before that.

I've been reading DU for years now.

[Bake]

199. Really? Because you've only been a member here for a couple of weeks.

Newbie.

Bake

[splat]

51. It's all to be shot down, they don't take what's real on the face of it

[Catherine Vincent]

55. I think you should recommend so it can make the greatest page

That's what happens on the Obama side.

[myrna minx]

35. This seems to be the Hillary message of the day.

What will tomorrow message be, I wonder.

[beachmom]

36. Hmmm. Two posts like this from different Hillary supporters. An e-mail from Peter Daou?

New talking point: Obama has now cost us the White House!!!! A revisionist reality where Clinton supporters now acknowledge they KNEW Obama had the nomination sewn up, but now see his gaffe over the weekend to be fatal, thereby losing us the White House. So, you know Hillary can't win the nom, eh?

[Tennessee Gal]

43. Who is Peter Daou?

[nsd]

40. I don't find this argument convincing.

Perhaps if you put it in CAPITAL LETTERS?

[JVS]

41. Is this the meme of the day from His44 or something. I saw another thread saying this already

[azmouse]

44. ...

[mmonk]

47. Care to elaborate?

Head to head with McCain, he has polled better than Clinton most of the time.

[Atman]

52. No, your stupid ignorant self-serving attitude will

Except it won't.

Obama will win, despite the cries of desperate Hillary supporters.

.

[Bigleaf]

53. WRONG! Dems will get the White House. He only cost Hillary the White House.

[merh]

64. hillary suppporters think it is a package deal

bill and hill and all of them, in the white house. Most have sublet their apartments and signed leases on their houses. They will have no place to go. x(

Maybe the clintons will let them live in their mansions. :sarcasm:

[Bigleaf]

103. Really. Talk about a cult.

[AtomicKitten]

56. Mountain Dew is a contraceptive.

[EFerrari]

59. LOL!

:applause:

[Hepburn]

83. Latte spew.....

...:rofl:

[Hippo_Tron]

61. So instead of Obama we need to nominate Hillary Clinton, another policy wonk

See Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry for good examples of how electable those types of candidates are.

[tekisui]

66. That's it?

Who are you to lose the WH?

[Tennessee Gal]

73. Yep. That's it.

Have fun now.

[tekisui]

93. Who is the "us" you are referring to?

If "Us" is Hillary Supporters, I agree.

If "Us" is the Democratic Party, I think you are adopting a defeatist attitude, and have lost perspective.

If "Us" is the People of America, I don't get it. Chimpy cost "Us the People" the White House.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

68. Imbecilicalest OP of the day.

Few hours to go.

[Mooney]

69. What fascinating analysis.

[TexasLady]

71. I guarantee you that Repukes don't want Obama

as much as they want to run against Hillary. Not only because Im engulfed, no, wallowing in repuke relatives everywhere around me who say this, but I venture out past DU and read what lots of other forums say.

Whether it's a Repuke site, or just a non political site with a political section in it. It's all the same. It's harder to fight a foe you dont know than one you do know.

[undeterred]

72. Tennessee will cost us the outhouse.

There, I've said it.

[Tennessee Gal]

136. Yep. You did. And showed your ignorance.

[undeterred]

You have the prize for that, I'm afraid.

[Tennessee Gal]

142. Really? I did make the remark you made.

[Downtown Hound]

74. Put a cork in it

She's done, and no one's buying into this bullshit anymore. Have a nice life.

[mth44sc]

80. Barack

will gain us the White house of perhaps 30 years of Democratic rule.


The latter might be a mixed blessing - but far better than the alternative...

[CreekDog]

84. Let it sink

this isn't an OP, it's barely a sentence. :banghead:

[rodeodance]

85. If he is the Dem nominee, the Dems have lost the WH. yes.

[PerfectSage]

95. So Hillary the condescending "wedge issue asshole" needs to save the dems from their stupidity?

[Tennessee Gal]

101. Nope. Should have been John Edwards.

He would have blown McCain out of the water.

[PerfectSage]

106. Too bad Edwards isn't on a mission to save us. Instead of Hillary.

[karynnj]

179. No he wouldn't

Remember any 2 way match up with Edwards:

- Kerry blew Edwards away in 2004

- It was a draw with Cheney - there were times where he looked like a deer in the headlights there

- He was clearly bested by both Obama and HRC

- When he and Kemp came back from Russia, Kemp, who I dislike, was better in their joint conferences.

I could see someone regretting it wasn't Biden. Biden would complete on foreign policy. But I think this year people were looking for something that would remove them from the past - both the 1990s and 2000s. That's why I think that Obama might be better against McCain than even Kerry, who was my first choice and who I think is the only person who is strong on every single issue.

[rodeodance]

105. " So BHO the condescending "wedge issue asshole" needs to save the dems from their stupidity?

[PerfectSage]

113. Hillary's behind and her friends say she's on a mission to save save democratic

voters from themselves. The more Hillary the drama queen goes negative the higher her unfavourables will go.

If only Hillary was as smart as a Potemkin village idiot... ... :rofl:

http://www.philly.com/philly/polls/17657034.html?results=y

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080414_John_Baer__Decades_of_working-class_neglect_-_now_that_s_insulting.html

[L0oniX]

92. Ok you are right ...I am now for Hillarat .....yea ...dream on.

[bigwillq]

98. Can you elaborate

as to why you think so? :shrug:

[zulchzulu]

99. I think I hear sniper fire!

:puke:

[ashtoncusher]

107. Obama is more electable than Hillary

He is tied with McCain in NC and is ahead in swing states of Nevada and Mexico. He has a good change of winning in November.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

109. The earth is flat.

[JoFerret]

111. You are not alone

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=2814749773191

[Hepburn]

112. You know....

....the more I look at what you say, I realize this is code for you saying, "He's black....so he can't win!"

Congrats...I only knew one other person from TN until I met you on the DU...and he was the biggest racist bigot I have ever had the displeasure of knowing. It must be the freaking water in some places in that state.

:puke:

[walldude]

116. 117 replies

time for me to leave. This place has turned into a fucking joke.

[dchill]

118. Tennessee Gal will cost us valuable time.

Better send all the money you have to Hillary right now, so she doesn't have to spend any of her ONE HUNDRED AND NINE MILLION dollars!

[Tennessee Gal]

126. Me? Nope. Just trying to make people think.

[dchill]

128. Duuuuh... Think what?

:eyes::crazy:

[Tennessee Gal]

138. Perhaps think what you may be incapable of thinking.

[dchill]

139. Yup. My I.Q. just keeps decreasing every moment I...

spend in your thread.

[Tennessee Gal]

141. Yep. I thought you lacked the ability to think.

[dchill]

147. Must be all that Crown Royal.

[jackson_dem]

120. You are right. Check this out. Hill wins Florida but Obama loses--by 15

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5507718

[lojasmo]

122. Clinton will put the WH in jepardy.

I think our candidate Barack Obama will pull through, though.

[havocmom]

129. LOL Hillary and her husband promoting McCain seem more damaging

but thanks for playing

[Evergreen Emerald]

130. I look at all of these really really nasty responses, and then I look at the site and see

all of the really really nasty posts about the great NY Senator, and I wonder who the hell ever believed that Obama could unite anything? His supporters do not unite. They bully.

[Spider Jerusalem]

134. Ha.

That's funny.

Hillary has no chance at all of getting elected even should she improbably get the nomination. NONE. She is not only hated by the GOP, she is now hated by a significant percentage of Democrats. She would energise the Republicans to vote against her, while many in her own party would probably not vote for her. If anyone costs us the election, it's Hillary, with her cheap-shot Rovian politics against the likely Democratic nominee. If you're to fucking stupid to understand that, I genuinely pity you.

[Brundle_Fly]

144. Sadly I think Hillary already has.

[last_texas_dem]

145. Same shit, different day

Wow, I swear you just posted essentially the same one-sentence piece of garbage the other day (and got even more recs for that one- ridiculous!). I mean, if you're going to make some extreme statement like this, couldn't you actually provide some substance to go with it, or would that be too much of a burden?

[Tennessee Gal]

154. My point is to get people to think and I have responded.

[Zodiak]

176. I think it would provide too much of a target

If there was substance, it would get refuted in triplicate and then mocked for its ham-handedness.

I have noticed a lot of one-liners coming from that camp as of late. Their voice gets smaller and smaller.

Of course it could just be that I exercise my "ignore" feature liberally.

[stevietheman]

148. Please stop the attacks on our nominee Barack Obama. n/t

n/t

[Tennessee Gal]

152. What attacks?

He is not yet the nominee.

[EFerrari]

155. He wll be. And he will be the next president of these United States.

It will be a shame that some American will find that trying.

[Jamastiene]

162. If he doesn't stop ridiculing small town Democrats, he will.

Between him and Michelle and the things that they both say from time to time, I'm not sure even some Democrats will want to vote for him. He should really have never ridiculed small town America.

The truth is that small town America represents quite a few electoral college votes. Remember? We have had this debate time and time again. Popular vote is not how we choose a president in this country. It's the Electoral College vote that decides it and the Electors are divvied up not by the quantity of people for a specific area, but instead in an uneven manner to make sure all are represented.

Obama needs to think about that before he sticks his foot in his mouth again and pisses off more of small town America. We are not all Republicans in small towns. There are a lot of us out here in small towns who are lifelong Democrats and will vote for the Democratic candidate in the GE, but there are also a lot who will take his words to heart and will either not vote or do the unthinkable...we know what the unthinkable is.

[EFerrari]

164. He never ridiculed anyone. He's not the kind of politician like Clinton

who has the face to dictate to other people who they are or what they need.

Did you read what he actually said before embarking on this misinformed tirade?

God, what a bunch of crap.

[quakerboy]

168. Agree'd. Why'd He have to get in Ron Pauls way, damit?

or were you more a Romney or Thompson sort?

[Perry Logan]

170. You people don't understand: Barack's screw-ups are all Hillary's fault.

[DemVet]

172. Agreed.

[DefenseLawyer]

173. Scoreboard n/t

[Skidmore]

178. Hillary will cost more than the White House--

she is destroying the Democratic Party for a generation.

[Political Heretic]

185. I actually agree with you on that and think its that serious.

[Political Heretic]

180. Hillary's doing her damndest to already do that.

[bunnies]

181. False.

Obama will draw new voters by the millions and will beat McCain in a landslide.

[BlooInBloo]

184. We'll win in spite of fuckers who won't vote for the Democratic nominee...

.... and work to make the Democratic nominee lose.

[SeaLyons]

187. Agreed...K&R

Truer words were never said.

Hillary for President!!!!

:kick:

[reflection]

193. This white male Tennessean

is going to cast a vote for BO in the GE. And I know a lot of other Tennesseans, black and white, who are ready to do the same.

[Tennessee Gal]

222. Good for you. I don't know any Democrat who is going to vote for Obama.

[reflection]

226. TN will probably go red anyway

so it's probably a moot point. :)

[Vinca]

201. If the White House is lost, it will be Hillary's fault. I've never, ever

seen a Democratic candidate go after another in such a dirty, Republican way as she's gone after Barack. He's going to be the nominee unless she convinces the superdelegates to overturn the elected vote, something that is highly unlikely. So. If he loses it will be thanks to Hillary's efforts in the primary. If she steals it and becomes the nominee, she loses because Barack's millions of new primary voters will assume their votes don't count and will stay home for the general.

[Tennessee Gal]

224. So, how does Barack win the GE if Democrats are saying they will not

vote for him?

[IndianaJones]

204. ironically, because of typical white people. nt.

[smiley_glad_hands]

206. Why vote republican lite when you can just vote republican?

Hill is the one destroying the party with right wing attacks.

[Symarip]

214. lol

[knixphan]

218. Barack will open the closet...

that bigots have been hiding in for the last 30 years...

I say, It's about time...

[wowimthere]

219. LOL! Your post has not merit. By all accounts Obama shouldn't be where he is... but HE IS!

[Teaser]

221. and also, sex.

.

[racaulk]

223. HERE'S AN LOLCAT!!1! ELEVENS!11!

[NeedleCast]

225. I think your crystal ball needs cleaning