TPM: Theda Skocpol: For It Before She Was Against It ("Bitter")

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TPM: Theda Skocpol: For It Before She Was Against It ("Bitter")

Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 11:01 PM by SunsetDreams

For it, Before She Was Against It

Theda Skocpol writes in ...

I have been in meetings with the Clintons and their advisors where very clinical things were said in a very-detached tone about unwillingness of working class voters to trust government -- and Bill Clinton -- and about their unfortunate (from a Clinton perspective) proclivity to vote on life-style rather than economic issues. To see Hillary going absolutely over the top to smash Obama for making clearly more humanly sympathetic observations in this vein, is just amazing. Even more so to see her pretending to be a gun-toting non-elite. Give us a break!
I wonder if she realizes that gaining a few days of lurid publicity that might reach a slice of voters is going to cost her a great deal in the regard of many Democrats, whose strong support she will need if she somehow claws her way to the nomination -- and even more so if she does not clinch the nomination. The distribution of "we're not bitter" stickers to her campaign rallies is the height of over-the-top crudity, and the reports are that very few audience members seem to have much enthusiasm for this nonsense. Not surprisingly, people cannot see the reasons for so much fuss.

Yes, she wants a big break, she desperately wants the nomination she and Bill believe is hers by right. We all know that. But where is her authenticity and her dignity and her sense of any proportion?

This has to be one of the few times in U.S. political history when a multi-millionaire has accused a much less wealthy fellow public servant, a person of the same party and views who made much less lucrative career choices, of "elitism"! (I won't say the only time, because U.S. political history is full of absurdities of this sort.) In a way, it is funny -- and it may not be long before the jokes start.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/188673.php

Who is she?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theda_Skocpol

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THE SMOKING GUN on Hillary Clinton? She's said Obama demeaned working class values

yet Theda Skocpol revealed
that in multiple meetings with her, both Bill & Hillary spoke about the working class and "their unfortunate (from a Clinton perspective) proclivity to vote on life-style rather than economic issues. To see Hillary going absolutely over the top to smash Obama for making clearly more humanly sympathetic observations in this vein, is just amazing."
from TalkingPointsMemo.

So why hasn't this been in the news? I'd like to see Theda Skocpol share about those meetings on the national news.

http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080414172327AAH8Wdf
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B. Clinton: Jobs tied to anti-trade, anti-immigrant politics

From The Charlie Rose Show, 12/15/07. "So I think that the rise of this is sort of crystallized for a lot of people, that I think doubling healthcare premiums has had a lot to do with this -- the further loss of health insurance coverage in America. So there's a lot of economic anxiety. In the Republican Party, it expresses itself as this sort of very hard line against immigration. In the Democratic Party, it expresses itself in a very hard line against trade. But the real problem is we haven't created enough good new jobs."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYi_qNWdjgw

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Hey Hillary, the Bible tells people to "cling" to your faith in Christ

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5504931

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I Was There: What Obama Really Said About Pennsylvania

Last Sunday evening I attended the San Francisco fundraiser that has been the center of recent political jousting. The next day, when asked about the talk Obama delivered, I too commented about his answer to a question he was asked about Pennsylvania. Over the past week, though, I have had a Rashomon-like experience concerning those remarks.

Clinton, McCain, and media pundits have parsed a blogger's audio tape of Obama's remarks and criticized a sentence or two characterizing some parts of Pennsylvania and the attitudes of some Pennsylvanians. In context and in person, Senator Obama's remarks about Pennsylvania voters left an impression diametrically opposed to that being trumpeted by his competitor's campaigns.

At the end of Obama's remarks standing between two rooms of guests -- the fourth appearance in California after traveling earlier in the day from Montana -- a questioner asked, "some of us are going to Pennsylvania to campaign for you. What should we be telling the voters we encounter?"

Obama's response to the questioner was that there are many, many different sections in Pennsylvania comprised of a range of racial, geographic, class, and economic groupings from Appalachia to Philadelphia. So there was not one thing to say to such diverse constituencies in Pennsylvania. But having said that, Obama went on say that his campaign staff in Pennsylvania could provide the questioner (an imminent Pennsylvania volunteer) with all the talking points he needed. But Obama cautioned that such talking points were really not what should be stressed with Pennsylvania voters.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-coleman/i-was-there-what-obama-re_b_96553.html

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Manufacturing job losses cripple growth in Pennsylvania

The American Manufacturing Trade Action Coalition (AMTAC) has analyzed job gain/loss in Pennsylvania in a report prepared by Dr. Charles W. McMillion, president and chief economist of MBG Information Services, titled, Pennsylvania’s Jobs Market 2001-2008: Trading Down in A Debt-Driven, Weak Economy.

Reacting to the report, Peter McKernan, CEO of Herculite Products Inc. of Emigsville, Pa., said, "Pennsylvania can’t keep trading good manufacturing jobs for lower paying service sector jobs and expect to grow its economy. Americans haven't stopped buying manufactured goods; they just aren’t buying as many from Pennsylvania as before. That’s what has got to change if Pennsylvania is to recover the more than 207,000 manufacturing jobs it has lost since 2001 and recharge its economy.”

Noting that U.S. manufacturing’s competitiveness concerns are fostered by Chinese and other foreign-country predatory trade practices such as blatant currency manipulation, rebates of value-added (VAT) taxes, and outright export subsidies, McKernan stated, "A detailed policy response from the administration, all presidential candidates, and the Democratic and Republican leaderships in Congress to address U.S. manufacturing competitiveness is long overdue. Without this, sectors of the Pennsylvania economy subject to international competition will continue to bleed jobs and wither from the lack of capital investment.”

more here:
http://www.reliableplant.com/article.asp?pagetitle=Manufacturing%20job%20losses%20cripple%20growth%20in%20Pennsylvania&articleid=11398