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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:23 PM
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When an outrageous comment is attributed to Hillary
Or when she is portrayed as having said or done something that enrages you when you hear about it -- go to the source!

If the issue is Mr. Obama's comments about people who are bitter, check out what Obama said, by viewing the video or reading the speech. Then check out what she said in response, by viewing the video or reading the response. For example, read and listen to what Obama said about "bitterness," and then read what Hillary Clinton said. Somehow the interpretations do not accurately convey the message I heard in her words.

Forget the attributions and interpretations. Listen to what she says, and think for yourself.

-MB
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:25 PM
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1. Think for ourselves???
Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We need to be told what to think!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:27 PM
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2. You will now be attacked for suggesting people think for themselves.
Brave of you.

I thought it quite elegantly put.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:35 PM
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8. Yes, when it's all over I'll send you my purple heart.
Posthumously if necessary. :rofl:





:patriot:
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:13 AM
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15. Well, it is a deep subject.
Broad. Tall. Sweeping. Vacuuming === I mean, vacuous == er, the brain.

Well, par don me ee.

:rofl:

It is so obvious -- to listen to her is to support her.

Unless of course you already hate her.

Or choose not to support her.

Or

Think differently.



-mb
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:32 AM
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19. Indeed, it is a deeper subject.
Vast, High, Window-cleaning... er, I mean 'clear'.

Ton Pardon.

It's so oblivious -- To hear him is to support him.

Unless, of course, you already ate him.

Or your shoes don't support him... or his arches.

Or

Something about a sink... I don't know.

Good luck with all that.



-Dr. E
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:07 AM
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27. Well done.
but rare.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:40 PM
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34. It's over.
Easy.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:45 PM
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13. No, the objection would be to go to the source of the misinformation
for information. I myself wouldn't want to risk the sniper fire.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:31 PM
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3. People who can't think for themselves are going to be embittered by this.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:31 PM
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4. Brit Hume speaks for me. I trust Brit to investigate all the fair and balanced
facts and then present them in bite-sized nuggets for my drive-through consumption as a corporate media psychoslave.


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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:33 PM
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5. What is this "think" of which you speak?
I kid. Good points, MaryBear.

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:34 PM
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6. Alway, always, always
This is such a valuable tool. It should be used constantly.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:34 PM
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7. What do you think? Do you think she was accurate?
Do you think Clinton calling Obama an elitist was 'good form' for the ultimate elitist? I do realize she drank a shot and a beer, but 'really'. She didn't convince me she had my best interests at heart. :shrug:
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:44 PM
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12. How in the hell do you think she could have
related to the people of Arkansas for all those years if she was elitist? They would have been kicked out of the governor's "mansion" so fast their heads would spin. Obama would never be elected as Arkansas's governor even if he was all white (I'm already assuming that you are going to call Arkansans racists), he is much too aloof, and looks like he's afraid to get his hands dirty.

zalinda
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:36 PM
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:36 PM
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10. Depends on what the definition of "is" is.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:37 PM
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11. You must be joking.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:49 PM
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14. I do listen to her, and that's why I know she's a turncoat and a Rovian disaster.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 11:52 PM by TexasObserver
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:17 AM
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16. DING DING DING We have a winner!!!
Thanks for that. Saved me the typing time.




:headbang:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:18 AM
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17. Sorry. I prefer to swallow the spin my candidate puts out.
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 12:18 AM by anonymous171
:rofl:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:20 AM
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18. I just put this on the G-Page, I think it's time someone out there know...
that some of the MODS here are trying :patriot:
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:34 AM
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20. MaryBear: don't forget to listen to what he says too, and think for yourself.
This will take about exactly. 3.10 minutes of your time: Obama on Charlie Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a88wMPAWc90

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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:11 AM
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28. thanks.
i usually checkout who said what when i sm upset. or try to. especially when i am remembering to think. -mb
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:11 AM
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29. thanks.
i usually checkout who said what when i sm upset. or try to. especially when i am remembering to think. -mb
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:14 AM
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30. I wish the MSM would just shut up with all their spin and commentary and let people
listen to the candidates themselves, not with soundbite clips but in the full context, and let people think for themselves. It seems all they do is confuse people with all their biased spin. Ahh, pipe dream.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:58 AM
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21. Obama screwed up big time.
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 01:06 AM by Beacool
No amount of overanalyzing his words is going to make a bloody difference. He thought that his elitist remarks would not be out for the public at large to hear them. He erroneously thought that he could show his true feelings among his fat cat donors. Serves him right!!!!!!!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:03 AM
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23. Ding! Not just that, but he thought that 'SF Liberals' would accept what he was saying more readily
So he not only misunderstood small towns in the heartland, he misunderstood the very people that are trying to understand him. Nice job. A little like ringing a door bell with a hammer. So much for nuance :thumbsup:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:19 AM
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24. Yawn. Poor baby.
Just don't quite have a real argument here, just latent hatred, swelling in your colon like so many uncooked refried beans.....


Here ya go:

:hurts:

Now you can feel all better, Right??
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:11 AM
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26. Rude, as are too many of his groupies. n/t
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:45 PM
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39. That's unnecessarily nasty
.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:55 PM
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33. Spot on!!!
Absolutely serves him right, and the public has a right to hear what he said behind closed doors.
Who is Barack Obama?????

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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:02 AM
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22. No. Attribution and Interpretation is truth. You cannot break my truth shield with your "thought"
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:15 AM
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31. Think.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:22 AM
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25. How about that lovely attack ad she did in PA?
What do you think of that?
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:48 PM
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32. Please post link so I can think.
Thanks.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:19 PM
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36. Here
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:12 PM
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35. Here
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:25 PM
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37. Yeah but if people think for themselves,
they might discover both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama are good people and then what would happen? :shrug: Thank you for this post.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:05 PM
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41. We certainly can't have that.
:P
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:10 PM
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42. That would definitely
be a no no.The universe might implode. Or would that be explode? Don't know, that would be one of those science things. Need republican input on that.:7
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:31 PM
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38. Think....think.....think.....


Silly old bear. :hug:
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:04 PM
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40. Hell, this is just good advice in general.
I mean, we know the media has always been fair to Democrats. Right? RIGHT?! :P
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:12 PM
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43. Very fair
and so truthful. They would never mislead us.
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