New comments from BET Founder: Obama Camp has "a hair-trigger on anything racial."

[truthpusher]

I don't know what to think about this... is it just me, or does feel like a double standard? Here is a prominent African American telling another prominent African American that he is using race negatively... now isn't that what he just did? WTF! If Hilary doesn't tell this guy to shut up soon... this will surely hurt her.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics/story/332760.html

BET founder takes on Obama, race
The Associated Press

CHARLOTTE, N.C. --The billionaire founder of Black Entertainment Television says Barack Obama would not be a leading presidential candidate if he were white and that the Illinois senator's campaign has "a hair-trigger on anything racial."

The Charlotte Observer reported on its Web site Monday that Bob Johnson, one of Hillary Rodham Clinton's top black supporters, was commenting on remarks previously made by Geraldine Ferraro, another Clinton supporter.

"What I believe Geraldine Ferraro meant is that if you take a freshman senator from Illinois called 'Jerry Smith' and he says I'm going to run for president, would he start off with 90 percent of the black vote?" Johnson said. "And the answer is, probably not."

"Geraldine Ferraro said it right," Johnson added. "The problem is, Geraldine Ferraro is white. This campaign has such a hair-trigger on anything racial it is almost impossible for anybody to say anything."

more: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics/story/332760.html

[mckeown1128]

1. "Obama is only where he is because he is black" isn't just anything nt

[marmar]

2. Bob Johnson is an unapologetic Hillary shill.....What do you expect him to say?

n/t

[AX10]

3. True.

The Obama camp tries to find anything it can in order to play the race card against the Clintons.

[babylonsister]

7. Why are you so uninformed? Very odd. nt

[JeffR]

11. You're right!

Oh wait. No, you're completely wrong. Sorry, I must have got a contact high from the last pro-Clinton thread I read.

[PBS Poll-435]

57. Fess up. Someone told you that the

bongwater was rhubarb cider.

Chug, Chug, chug.


j/k

[Hugabear]

20. Well, when the Clintons make racially insensitive comments, don't expect to get away with it

Clinton supporters have labeled Obama supporters as 'sexist' over FAR less.

When the Hillary campaign dismisses Obama's performance in South Carolina, saying that black candidates always do well there, that's not racially insensitive?

When Hillary supporters say Obama is only where he is because he's black isn't racially insensitive? (the irony here is hilarious - would Hillary be where she is now if her last name wasn't Clinton? Fair is fair...)

When Bill Clinton mocks an Obama ad, throwing in a comment "at least he doesn't steal cars", that's not racially insensitive?

[NashVegas]

63. So Does Obama. That's What's So Funny About It

"typical white person"

In the long run, I think his campaign is giving some parts of America an opportunity to shout some resentments at each other and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing for race relations; for a presidential campaign, I'm not so sure.

[MadBadger]

4. "Start off with 90 percent of the black vote" Like usual Bob, your just uninformed.

[jackson_dem]

65. True but that goes to his larger point. O got to that by swiftboating the Clintons on race

[GoldieAZ49]

82. he had to separate the black vote from the Clintons

or he didn't have a snowballs chance in hell of continuing in the primary.

He said he 'didn't know' his campaign did that. Bullshit.

Jackson Jr compared him to OJ and asked how can Obama attack a white woman.

There has never been a more racist campaign than Obama's.

[ErinBerin84]

5. I may be slow...

but since Obama didn't even start out with 90% of the black vote, I don't get the point. Maybe I'm just tired.

[jackson_dem]

66. Yes he swiftboated the Clintons on race by doing what Johnson is talking about to go from 36% to 90%

[babylonsister]

6. BOB JOHNSON? The wealthy black man who loves Hill now, but

was rooting for rethugs a few years ago? He's all about the money (BET). Don't kid yourself.

Bob Johnson is not worthy of Barack Obama. Look it up.

[gabeana]

8. The same could be said about Hillary

with regard to gender,
and considering that there is only one black American senator right now he has a politically liable name (first, middle, and last) It's quite remarkable obama is where he's at
Obama is a self-made man something one would think Johnson would be proud about

[americanstranger]

9. Yeah, the guy who made the 'drug dealer' inference...

... and later had to apologize for it.

His name was also on the letter from Clinton donors trying to threaten Pelosi.

Forgive me if I think they guy's full of shit.

- as

[democracy1st]

10. Bull S... Entertainment TV = BET

Brings nothing to the table but bs

[Hawkeye-X]

25. BET is crappy TV.

All they do is rap and lots of it, and even crappy sitcoms.

[ampad]

12. Says the man who's network has contributed to the

demise of the black community with the playing of degrading, sexist, gangsta, rap videos and mindless dribble. Bob Johnson is a fucking tool.

[AX10]

17. I do agree with you that Rap is Crap!

All of it.

[Hugabear]

22. I have to disagree with you there

Not all of it.

Maybe the vast majority of rap nowadays, and since the early 90s. But I still loves me some Public Enemy, LL Cool J, and Run-DMC. Maybe it's just because I'm old now.

[ampad]

35. The old school hip hop is hot

I remember LL Cool J, Run-DMC and Public Enemy. The issues I have with BET is that they will play that 50 cent gangsta rap crap and give little air time to socially conscious artist such as The Roots or Arrested Development ( who recently made a comeback ). I guess that shoot em up, video vixen crap is popular but it does nothing to further the black community. Bob Johnson needs to get off his high horse because he could of done something great with BET. Instead BET is another nonsense channel perpetrating stereo-types that are not good for the black community.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

53. Why does your post not surprise me?

Not at all.

[LowerManhattanite]

54. A blanket statement like that...

...surprises me not one iota from a proud supporter of the sad, crypto-bigot, Liebercrat wing of the party.


“Why wont my Mantovani LPs play in this CD thingy?”

[NDambi]

18. And you know that...

[Divine Discontent]

55. thank you..............

that's what I thought (what you essentially typed) when I read who was saying this... he's just WRONG. but we know this.





yeah Bob... you hold zero respect in most circles, and just hit it big with BET and being rich doesn't mean you're right. that station is so dirty.

[Quixote1818]

13. This article is more race-baiting from Clinton's camp

Obama's campaign is doing everything they can to stay away from being labeled the "Black Candidate". Hillay's campaign has tried several times to try to bait him into being the "Angry Black Man" and from time to time someone from his campaign has taken the bait, but Obama and those close around him know better. Obama is doing well because he is an incredible communicator and connects with people. Those who say he is winning because he is black are simply out of touch with reality. His campaign knows they have to make Obama seem white for him to win. He has to come across like Bill Cosby, Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan. The second he seems "black" to people he loses votes. Thats just a fact.

So, what is this article about? It's about reminding people Obama is black. More race-baiting crap from the Clinton camp.

[EFerrari]

14. More ugly bigoted crap. Thanks and welcome to ignore!

[truthpusher]

23. welcome to close mindedness? just because I posted this doesn't mean I agree with it?

don't be such a knucklehead!

[ruggerson]

34. Now you have a glimpse into

the DU experience of a Hillary supporter. :)

[truthpusher]

38. I agree this is ugly bigoted crap, but it's worth talking about...

...when people avoid listinng, they stop learning... sometimes you are tought by the situation more than the individusl.

[2rth2pwr]

41. If that person followed through on all the "welcome to ignore"'s, there wouldn't be anything to read

[rodeodance]

78. you dared to post something critical of Obama. therefore you are condemed...

yes you are.


it is the truth on gd-p.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

15. Bob "fuck the estate tax" Johnson?

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/08/estate-tax-bob-johnson/

[NDambi]

16. Bob Johnson..the black man who sold the soul of black music..yeah okay im going to listen to him..

He can bite it.

[ampad]

39. Yup he has some room to talk

I hope he knows that quite a few of us know what BET is really all about; it sure in the hell is no secret.

[NDambi]

86. Amen. You said it.

[DarienComp]

19. Dear Hillary,

It's still racist even if a black man says it.

Love,

Earth

[Colobo]

21. Uncle Bob Johnson.

[Cha]

24. What was it bob johnson said before

about Obama and had to apologize? And now he's crawled from under his rock and back at it.

[cliffordu]

26. IF:

"Truth" == Bullshit

then


"truthpusher" == "Bullshitpusher"

Any questions??





:patriot:

[truthpusher]

27. another one! what the fuck? just because I posted this doesn't mean I agree with it?

I think it is important for people to see the level of hate out there.... this article reeks of hate... I was curious to see what people thought... instead I am not seeing a whole lot of actual discussion, just a lot of name calling?

[cliffordu]

31. If you just post that swill, no one here knows how you feel about it

and assume that you endorse it.

If you think it's bullshit, preface your post with:

I think this is bullshit, but you gotta read this:

[truthpusher]

32. thanks

[cliffordu]

36. And the 'sarcasm' smilie works wonders, too.

But MY all time favorite is the "stamp of approval" smiley:


:hurts:




:patriot:

[Chovexani]

79. Do not expect thoughtful discussion here.

That hasn't happened since about 2004.

[TML]

28. Anything racial? Like this?

Check out Larry Johnson's headline on this post: Saddam Hussein, Barack Hussein Obama’s Hidden Real Estate Partner?

I'm getting tired of this shit from "Democrats" As a minority, one reason I hardly vote GOP (I voted for Arnold over Angelides and his GOP-like scandals) is because of the open racism. As far as I'm concerned, I will never vote for Hillary if she wins. As a matter of principle, I will never support a candidate or supporters that are likely to call me a racial epithet behind my back or under their breath.

At least the GOP and their supporters are willing to say it to my face, so I at least have to give them credit for that.

[indimuse]

29. K&R

people are starting to see where the problem is...

[truthpusher]

30. do you actually think that these comments help the HRC campaign?

to me they sound bigoted and hateful... it shows me the type of people she hangs around... are not nice people, I say go ahead and recommend this thread... it will only help Barak... that's my opinion.

[NJSecularist]

33. If Hillary wasn't the husband of Bill Clinton...

Would she have started off with 75% of the white Democratic working class vote?

[geek tragedy]

37. Bob "the death tax is racist" Johnson. Ha ha ha. n/t

[Beacool]

40. Thank you Mr. Johnson!!

Not that your comments will be appreciated on this board. If Obama had been any other senator with barely 2 years in office, the party leaders would have told him to sit his butt down until he built an actual resume. That's what Gerry was trying to point out, except that she said it in an inarticulate way.

[Colobo]

42. Obama doesn't have to wait turns. No politican has. Democratic voters

have voted in his favor, and that needs to be respected.

[Beacool]

45. I think that plenty wish they could re-vote now that the media

is finally starting to vet him. Rev. Wright, "bitter" remarks, etc. All of these will play quite well in the GE.

[babylonsister]

43. Wow. I can't even believe you typed that.

And FTR, Obama has a lot more experience than your gal. But the facts don't count. Got it.
And Gerry was trying to point out what besides her baiting??

[Beacool]

46. Oh please, the state senate? Being a protege of Emil Jones?

Chicago politics make us in NJ look like babes in the woods. The guy is undeserving of the presidency at this point in time.

[babylonsister]

49. You changed the entire subject. Address what I said, pls.

So you folks from NJ are not tough enough? So because Obama lived in Chicago, worked the streets and tried to help people, he's a thug? You are out of your mind. And you SHAME NJ! Tony Soprano would be pissed!

[Beacool]

50. Emil Jones and Rezko's financing made Obama.

Check it out for yourself. Chicago is the city where dead people voted for decades, even in Jersey we check for a pulse.

[babylonsister]

51. Do you think Obama is all about Chicago?

Have you read a book, heard about a thing the man has talked about? I don't know who Emil Jones is, but I guarantee you, if there was anything to it, it would be out there. You are grasping at straws.

IF you are really a Dem, try to pump up your candidate, instead of trying to bring down the other candidate.

[Beacool]

58. You don't know Emil Jones? Google him and Obama

Actually, read this:

http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/

[jackson_dem]

67. WOW. Any Obama supporter who doesn't know who Emil Jones is very uninformed about their candidate

Jones built Obama's fraudulent record in Illinois by giving him every major bill in 2002 so he could then use them in his senate run. The problem? Others had fought for them for years and the sponsorship of the bills were taken from them and given to Obama so he could have a (fake) record to run on.

[GarbagemanLB]

44. If your candidate didn't have the last name Clinton, she'd be no where too. Let's not

get into this silly argument...

[Beacool]

47. It's not silly. Obama is not experienced enough to be president.

At least not in 2008, and if he manages to make it, we will regret it. As we did with Jimmy Carter, a good man but an ineffective president.

[babylonsister]

48. That vagina reference is uncalled for. Not so the Clinton one. nt

[guyanakoolaid]

52. Oh, lord

Clinton has barely seven years experience as a senator, big deal. Obama has ten as an elected official compared to Clinton's seven. Bill had zero national experience. It's irrelevant, but whatever jumble of thoughts sounds like a good sound bite to you today, I guess.

[Beacool]

59. The state senate? Big deal!!

As for Bill, he was the senior governor of the country in 1992. He had been a governor for 12 years.

[guyanakoolaid]

61. Obama only helped insure 150,000 kids, helped IL take death penalty off the table, helped pass

Illinois' first earned-income tax credit to help the working poor, helped pass the first ethics and campaign finance law in IL n 25 years. Yeah, you're right not much accomplished there. :eyes:

Of course, Hillary does also have First Lady experience, where she steered the Clinton health care plan into the ground with her stubbornness ,championed NAFTA, and dodged sniper fire in war zones.

[jackson_dem]

68. Too bad his entire Illinois "record" is a total fraud. Find out who Emil Jones is

And then learn how much of a fraud the messiah is.

[rodeodance]

77. Recall Judicial Watch saying that Obama obviously did not want to leave a paper trail.

[guyanakoolaid]

89. I'm sorry, would it be possible for you to point out the fraud, or is smear of Obama's contributors

all you have?

[grantcart]

56. somebody isn't going to be the most powerful African American in the country and he is just going to

pout about it. Can someone hand him a blankie.

[Kurovski]

60. Oh, that's just how billionaires talk. I wouldn't put much stock in it.

[cali]

62. Johnson is a lying sack of shit

who has NO insight into the Obama campaign. He's the pig who said Obama was doing drugs in the hood while Hill was working her little heart out for AA causes and then lied about it. He's an elitest creep who's worked to get rid of inheritance taxes.

[BumRushDaShow]

64. If BET had a different corporate name without "Black" in it

then the cable network would have completely gone bankrupt because its programming can be found elsewhere. Note that AA Cathy Hughes owns a similar cable network with a race neutral name - TV One.

Johnson's cable network has such a hair-trigger on anything racial it is almost impossible for anybody to say anything.

Would he agree with that statement? No? See how that game gets played? :eyes:

[MethuenProgressive]

69. k&r for anti-elitist Bob Johnson!

:thumbsup:

[Connie_Corleone]

70. What a dumb ass! Obama didn't start off with 90% of the black vote.

He had to earn the black vote, just like he had to earn every vote he's gotten so far.

[JoFerret]

71. Sounds spot on to me

This campaign is deeply divisive and has played the race card to perfection - well almost. Perhaps the tide will turn in time. I certainly hope so. this last offensive little cloth-eared outburst is just one of many missteps along a fault-line.

Maybe - one by one the supercilious assumed superiority of Obama will wear thin on even more people. The GOP is slathering at the prospect.

[Vinca]

72. This from a man who has gotten rich depicting young, black women

as "bitches and hos." Yeah, I'm really going to take what he says to heart.

[BumRushDaShow]

73. Exactly.

And when confronted with his perpetuating the negative images, he tosses it off because his sole raison d'etre is making $$$$. And don't forget this is the same man who did a below-the-belt broadside to try to look hip in front of the Clintons with:

"Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood. I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in his book."

He doesn't know what a "high road" is and neither he nor the Clintons will ever know.

[GoldieAZ49]

84. "bitches and hos."???????

sounds like rap music

do you denounce it and those artists?

Are those women that appear on BET forced to?

[Clintonista2]

74. 100% true. Good thing Mr.Johnson is AA, or O supporters would stamp him as racist.

They are life destroyers.

[cali]

75. nah, he's just a pig of a hill sycophant

and a lying sack of shit who accused Obama of doing drugs in the hood while he was a community organizer in Chicago, and who's lobbied hard for the repeal of the estate tax. I'm sure little old you just loooves him.

[Medusa]

76. Hillary would never have been elected to the Senate

had it not been for her last name. Put her lack of qualifications on a white man's resume (or a black man's) or hell, another white woman minus that Clinton last name and she would never, ever have been elected to the Senate, nor would she have been qualified to run for the presidency.

[GoldieAZ49]

80. Obama Camp has "a hair-trigger on anything racial." No shit, not breaking news

for anyone that has been on DU for an hour


I agree, Ferraro was and still is right, so is Johnson.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

81. Bush's friend, Bob Johnson, who thinks the estate tax is racist?

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/20/bush-naacp/

:rofl:

[bigtree]

83. anyone who criticizes Obama is going to be ridiculed by his camp

If he was for Obama the supporters would be fawning over his every word of support like he was some sage. it's hilarious that you think he shouldn't be allowed to criticize Obama on race because he's also black.

[GoldieAZ49]

85. Some uniter eh? His 'movement' is more divisive than anything

in our history since the civil war.

Look what it has done to the dem party, and we want to take this crap into a national campaign against the repubs? Bullshit.

It is the last thing this country needs.

[NDambi]

87. Oh yeah blame it all on Obama...

LOL..you not only smell pathetic and desperate...you are both, convincingly too.

[ellacott]

88. That's funny

It could be said that's it's Hillary that's dividing the party. Many will agree that it's Hillary.

It's funny that some of you think otherwise.