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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:16 AM
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Why hasn't Hillary been attacking George Bush with the same ferocity for the past 7 years?
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 01:16 AM by NormaR
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:17 AM
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1. McCain either...
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:18 AM
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2. That's the problem with Hillary. Who's side is she on?
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:19 AM
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3. Why haven't we???
I understand the outrage over the stupid Hillary ad and so forth, but this infighting has us pretty distracted too.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:20 AM
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4. There's only infighting since he pretty much became irrelevant.
She's had 8 years to stand up to him.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:21 AM
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5. I would say he's still pretty relevant, sadly.
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 01:23 AM by napoleon_in_rags
I hate all the stupid stuff that's going down in Clinton's campaign and so forth, but I also remember the country wasn't like this when the Clintons were in charge. Whatever they were, it wasn't this.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:25 AM
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9. Well Obama says he'll look at criminality for possible prosecution.
That's better than we got out of Bill's investigations (or lack thereof).
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:40 AM
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18. Yeah, Obama's really good. nt
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:22 AM
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6. That's an excellent question.
And one I hope someone asks her at the debate this week.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:23 AM
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7. Best post of the day! nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:24 AM
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8. Yep!!! best post!!
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:27 AM
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10. K&R
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:27 AM
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11. The senate voting records are the same, so that is no big issue
But with that said, Hillary has had all the attention and all the opportunity to have a real role. I think she just never "got" the real issues, and it was all about the dynastic or selfish accumulation of power and wealth.

In any case, on what is truly important: she is no Gore, she is no Dean, she is no Kucinich, she is no Edwards. And finally, she is certainly no Obama.

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:30 AM
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15. She squandered a politician's most precious resource - name recognition
She's had unprecedented name recognition all these years - and she's squandered it.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:41 AM
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19. Exactly, and Bill too.
Could have made a difference, instead made a killing.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:27 AM
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12. I was wondering the exact same thing today.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:28 AM
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13. That's the $64000 question. nt
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:53 AM
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28. You left a few zeros out...
It's more in the neighborhood of $6,400,000,000,000.

That's going to be about how much MORE debt we, as a nation, will have accumulated at the end of the Bush "error". $6.4 T.

And no doubt... 6400 soldiers killed in Iraq by the time it's over. And another 64,000 soldiers wounded or made mentally ill by it.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:29 AM
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14. because of this


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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:31 AM
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16. Right-wing warmongers don't attack each other
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 01:31 AM by guyanakoolaid
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:33 AM
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17. Yes! Obama's been doing that for 7 years!!
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 01:33 AM by Cronus Protagonist
No wait... :P

Actually, it costs money to say stuff in the media. Any of them could have said a lot but we would never know because the media hardly ever reports it.

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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:42 AM
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20. Exactly What Lost Her My Vote
She's been a bit too cozy with this administration.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:43 AM
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21. NOW, there's a great thread title!!!!!!!!!!!!!
one of the best of the year!

SERIOUSLY - this needs 100 recs by noon!


She sounds so vicious about Obama, and he's not even president yet. Where was this harsh, very very harsh tone about the warmongering liar pResident we have now? About the torture? About the outing of Plame? Shrub saying no to Kyoto? About the people being left to die after Katrina? About the Ohio election disaster? All things orchestrated by dumbass B*sh! She may have voiced concern for some of these issues - but nothing in that rancid tone she's been using about Obama...

Hillary you're a shrill woman who needs to go far, far away.
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:49 AM
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22. Let me triangulate the answer...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:00 AM
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24. lol
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:58 AM
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23. Bar & GHBush said that Bill was like another son
so Hillary wouldn't want to be too rough on her "brother-in-law". x(
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:15 AM
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25. Cuz that would be elitist
it would make her like Gore and Kerry. :eyes:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:18 AM
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26. this bothers me too
yes INDEED
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:48 AM
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27. Well, and this is probably a bit unfair, but up until she decided
to run for President, I think she sort of agreed with George W. Bush.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:54 AM
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29. Good question.
Since I doubt I'll have an opportunity to see her in person, I hope someone asks that question of her.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:59 AM
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30. Because Dubya hates them San Franceesca latte-suckin' elitist pro-choicin' gun-grabbin' libruls, too
She's not Elmer Fudd, she's Yosemite Fuckin' Sam.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:01 AM
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31. Because they're buddies.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:16 AM
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32. "Bush Knew". A few months after 9/11, freshman senator Clinton
stood on the floor of the senate with a copy of the NY Post bearing that headline.

She then asked the question "Bush knew what?". Her question was met with a chorus of chirping crickets on both sides of the aisle.

After that showing of no support by her senior colleagues, I never took her to task for not passionately going after Bush.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:22 AM
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33. Bush is her friend ..... and she is his base. n/t
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:12 AM
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34. Because they're two ends of the same worm......
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:28 AM
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35. .
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:32 AM
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36. she's a traitor and never stood with democrats much.
thats clear now..
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:33 AM
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37. Because she has the same paymaster...
...
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:56 AM
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38. K&R
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:22 AM
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39. .somewhere in this triangulation is the truth




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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:31 PM
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40. Attacking Bush is political suicide-
there are obvious forces preventing any real investigations into criminal activity. Are the Bushes that powerful that they can make themselves into teflon? Kucinich was marginalized because he wanted to impeach, not because he didn't have the American people behind him, but because the powers that be would not allow this.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:45 PM
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41. Had she attacked Bush
with the ferocity she has attacked Obama and the Democratic party, she would have been the nominee right after Super Tuesday. The primary would have been over. And every Dem and most indies would have been working on her campaign day and night.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:48 PM
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42. Repiglicans don't usually attack their own
Why would Hillary trash Republicans? She is one.


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Citizen Kang Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:54 PM
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43. Because the Clinton's are just another wing of the Bush Crime Family
Bill did nothing while the Bushes stole their way into office in 2000. The Clinton's underminded Kerry's campaign in 2004. Hillary and Bill both supported the Iraq war, until it was in their interests to be against the war.

Google Mena, Cocaine, Bush and Clinton and do some research.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:57 PM
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44. she has been, sort of
No US Senator gets the same national attention as a Presidential candidate. The media tends to give more attention to people who bash Democrats, which is why Lieberman sold his soul for more TV exposure. Even now they probably pick out the Obama-bashing parts and talk about them rather than the Bush-bashing parts of any of her speeches.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:03 PM
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45. because the Clinton's and Bush's have been cozy for several years now.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:08 PM
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46. "I wish I could get them(The Bush Family) to adopt Hillary.".... Bill Clinton quote
Former President Bill Clinton discussed his relationship with President Bush's father last night on CBS LATE SHOW.

Clinton: "I think we're good friends. I like him very much. I've always liked him. When he was vice president, I was still a governor. We worked together on a number of things. He hosted the governors, in 1983...at Kennebunkport."

When they made an announcement about raising funds for Tsunami relief in Houston former First Lady Barbara Bush "announced us. And she said she has started to call me son. I told the Republicans there, I said don't worry, every family has one, you know, the black sheep. I told them, this just shows you the lengths the Bushes would go to get another president in the family. I wish I could get them to adopt Hillary."
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:08 PM
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47. She was too busy voting for his neocon agenda. n/t
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:09 PM
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48. That's a damn good question.
Really.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:56 PM
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49. Hillary has been assimilated
All the makeup in the world can't hide that.

The Clintons are part of the BFEE hive.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:57 PM
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50. Because she didn't want to appear weak on defense.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:48 PM
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51. Oh yeah- just like Obama has been fighting Bush since he got into the senate
oh wait...

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:50 PM
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52. Because he's not running for President.
Duh!
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:52 PM
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53. Exactly. Important question to be applied to any number of people. nt
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