I never thought I would say this but unless Obama quits, I'll never vote for Hillary!!!

[KansasVoter]

Her mocking, her making fun of his speeches, her "sky opened up" speech and now the willingness of her to hammer Obama on the "bitter" comment even though she KNOWS he just stated it wrong.

Unless Obama quits or actually has less delegates than Hillary going into Denver (which is impossible) and Hillary is the nominee I will not and could not vote for her.

I won't vote for McCain but I will not vote for Hillary.

She has lost it and her EGO is more important than anything. I am sick of her.

Call me an idiot if you must but I refuse to reward her behavior by helping her get elected.

[greguganus]

1. me 2. n/t

[polpilot]

2. If Hillary loses then 'stayin' with Bill' will be FOR NOTHING. She's damn desperate.

[EFerrari]

4. It got her a Senate seat. That's no small something.

And you never really know about a marriage from the outside looking in, imho.

[TahitiNut]

44. ... and $109 million is a nice consolation prize. Lots of chopped liver.

:banghead:

[EFerrari]

51. A lot of dog chews and Chinese delivery.

lol

[Beacool]

If you actually knew these people you wouldn't say something so idiotic.

Worry about your own personal relationships and let the Clintons deal with their marriage as they see fit.

[Lerkfish]

11. and, therefore YOU do know these people personally?

do tell.

:popcorn:

[Beacool]

26. Let's just say that we travel in the same circles.

I certainly wouldn't have worked my butt off for her campaign without pay if I didn't know what kind of person she truly is and the myriad of good deeds that she has done for many people. Things that are done quietly, without fanfare or alerting the media. Like Obama even said, who else could raise $35M after losing 11 times in a row?

There is a reason why she inspires loyalty in those close to her. Don't believe in all the crap spewed by too many since 1992. Hillary is one of the most compassionate people you would ever meet. I think that of the two, she's a better person than Bill.

[Lerkfish]

27. LOL! so you're a paid operative at DU for Clinton?

I'm so shocked.

[Beacool]

28. No, I've never been paid by any campaign.

I have always volunteered my time if I find a candidate who I like and respect, and with who's policies I agree.

[Lerkfish]

29. :)

you're paid in kind: you get to hang with people you admire: you're granted "exclusive access" that you can brag about to others, as you just demonstrated. Not all payment is in hard currency.

[Beacool]

30. My friend, I grew up in those circles.

My family has "hanged around" these people for years. I wouldn't support anyone just to have "exclusive access". I would have never tried to get close to Obama's inner circle, for example.

[Lerkfish]

33. of course not

you wouldn't be found dead in Obama's inner circle, I imagine.

still doesn't negate my point: your access is the currency you're paid for your loyalty.

that's ok, everyone has their price.

[Beacool]

36. And what's yours for supporting Obama?

I can't see the attraction to this guy.

[Liberal Gramma]

37. Most of us who support Obama do so because with him we see a brighter future for America

Not just a change from Bush politics, but a change from politics as usual.

[Lerkfish]

38. well, I"m not paid, I"m not in anyone's inner circle

I don't work for his campaign at all in any way.
I simply prefer him to clinton.

and as the campaign goes on, I"m more and more impressed with him, and more and more disgusted with her.

pretty simple. As opposed to you, I'm getting nothing out of my choice.

to me, its simply one choice is better than another.

he wasn't my first choice at all, but he has grown on me and I consider him a better choice than Clinton.

[Beacool]

39. Well, he has had the reverse effect on me.

I started out feeling neutral about the guy, now I can't even stand to watch him on TV.

[Lerkfish]

40. too bad, I think he's going to be on your tv for quite a while

maybe you should take up reading.

:)

besides, you just admitted you've been in clinton's inner circle all along, how could you have been neutral on any of her opponents?

[Beacool]

50. Why not?

One thing is to support a candidate, another is to have negative feelings for other candidates. I always preferred Hillary, but didn't initially dislike Obama.

As for the TV, if we're stuck with him I'll just keep changing the channel as I do when Bush pops up on my screen.

[lisa58]

3. tell howard dean...

...my stepson and I had this conversation the other night - he is very active in the party and we were discussing what would "cross the line". I told him that if it looked like Hillary got the nomination unfairly - I would vote for her - but I would also walk away from the party - no money, don't even ask.

He told me to let them know before hand - the sd's need to know how you feel.

[UALRBSofL]

5. Will you vote for Senator McCain if Hillary were to win?

I'm just curious.

[Zodiak]

8. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

From the OP "I won't vote for McCain but I will not vote for Hillary. "

Perhaps you have trouble reading anything that does not come from the National Review. Maybe you are not reading it because the OP doesn't have the word "SNOBama" in it.

[lisa58]

22. no - I'm not suicidal - but..

...if it looks like it's unfair - I'm out.

I've been paying close attention since 2000 - got active because of the horrible florida recount and supreme court decision that gave us our current hell. If the dems don't act better than that - I'm done.

[Hepburn]

49. If Hillary were to steal the nomination from Obama...

...I would do one of two things:

1. Write-in Obama; or

2. Skip voting for the top of the ticket.

I will NOT vote for Hillary and I will NOT vote for McCain.

[quakerboy]

55. There's always third party

Depending on what they put up. It might be nice to eventually get one of them up to the threshold, though I would hate to see it come at the expense of a McCain win.

[Kittycat]

12. just did...

thank you for the reminder.

[leftofcool]

18. Funny

I pretty much wrote the same thing about Obama

[lisa58]

24. If Hillary wins fair - I'm good....

....If Obama wins unfair - I'll feel the same way and walk away.

[Beacool]

6. That's OK, you're entitled to vote for whomever you prefer.

I have zero intention of voting for Obama. So, fair is fair........

[smiley_glad_hands]

7. I'm leaning towards your sentiments.

She should be attacking mcsame the way she is attacking obama. I find her campaign to be quite disturbing.

[Zodiak]

10. And think of the 7 years of Bush

where she showed no fighting spirit at all....now she unleashes this whirlwind on a fellow Democrat?

Typical DLCer....spending more time opposing the grassroots than the Republicans.

[Strathos]

9. Well then you people can blame yourselves when McSame is elected

Maybe you should stop calling yourselves democrats completely.

[Zodiak]

13. Never did

I am a populist independent who mostly joins with the Democratic party out of common goals.

If the Democratic party morphs back into the DLC, then I am out. I do not vote for labels...I vote for issues, and the DLC has nothing to offer.

[mrJJ]

14. I am not a member of any organized party

After the so called Dem superdelegates make their decision as to who the Dem nominee for President will be for the General 08 election "We the peon voters" Indies, Newbies & Crossover voters will have a chance to have our say. But NOT until after these superdelegates vote as their rules dictate. ... for anyone and for any reason they decide... thats the rules so nothing more to be said about it. If you are inclined to keep the Republican Right from completely dominating and continuing the Bush legacy; I strongly suggest that you vote FOR your states DEM nominees Senators, Congressman etc during this primary.

Lets look forward to the General election. For those of us who are not card carrying Democratic party member (Indies,newbies & crossover voters). If you are inclined to thwart the continued Bush/Cheney policies in 2009 what do you do? I would urge you to vote FOR your States Dem nominees for Senate & Congressional seats in this primary.

1 In the General vote FOR your states entire Dem Senate and Congressional seats.

2 Decide to vote AGAINST the Dem nominee by leaving the Presidential slot BLANK in Nov 08 or Writing in your choice

3 Vote with your feet by not showing up to vote in Nov 08

4 Vote for the Dem Presidential nominee just because thats the only choice you have been given.

5 Most importantly vote FOR the Presidential candidate because this candidate is YOUR choice.

I am NOT a follow my party right or wrong voter..I'm not even a member. However I do wish to thwart any more of the Bush/Cheney policies of the present. Therefore I will vote FOR my states Dem Senate & Congressional seats that are in play during this election. It will be interesting to see how many Indies and newbie & crossover voters feel the same way.

I am not a member of any organized party--I am a Democrat. Author: Will Rogers

If I cant be the Dem nominee for Commander in Chief.... I say that Republican Sen McCain passes the test... Author: A fool who will say and do anything to win the Dem nomination...

[Uben]

15. Oh!, the drama!

I just can't vote for so and so. My heart won't let me do it cuz he/she said something bad about my candidate. Do you realize how adolescent that sounds? And, I've heard it here a thousand times, from both sides.

Vote for the nominee or switch parties.

[Texas Hill Country]

16. but the "annie oakley" speech was ok? double standard much?

[KansasVoter]

17. Idiot...it was in response to her being unfair about his comments!

[LaurenG]

21. That was funny

and why should she take that as a bad thing, Annie Oakley had it going on. She was an excellent marks(wo)man

http://www.lkwdpl.org/WIHOHIO/oakl-ann.htm

[Marrah_G]

19. Yet I bet you would jump all over any Hillary supporter who said that about Obama.

[kid a]

20. No Comment.

:hi:

[nancyr]

23. I feel the same.

She lost me at the "sky opening up" point. Until that, I was inclined to support either of them, but that little display revolted me. I guess I'm an idiot, too.

[emilyg]

25. Thank you for letting us know. Go Hillary.

[redqueen]

31. What... just cause she backs up the RW "elitist" BS?

Because she said Gore lost due to that BS?

:shrug:

[guruoo]

32. Member since Mar 20th 2008 - n/t

[Blu Dahlia]

34. I don't think I can either

[PatGund]

35. Personally??

I will vote for the Democratic nominee.

If there is no Democrat running, then I will vote for Sen. Clinton

[Mezzo]

41. Don't worry. *I* knew you'd say it all along. nt

[Bensthename]

42. Why, because she is a horrible polititian that cant win talking issues or debates so

she resorts to lies, manipulation, false outrage, and is even willing to divide the dem party to the point where the dems will lose in Nov. ?

You silly Billy..

[Tippy]

43. So you like paying $4.a gal for gas?

Do you get a bang out of our son's and daughters losing thedir lives in Iraq? Are you on food stamps yet? You must enjoy the thought of begging or you would vote!!!!! I am sure Obama would want you to vote. Don't get me wrong I don't like Hillary but I sure as hell know it would be in my best interest to vote for her over McCain.....

[Lerkfish]

52. we're going to have over 4 dollar gas regardless of who is president, frankly.

otherwise, I basically agree.

[Bucky]

45. You won't have the option

In case you haven't noticed, Obama almost can't lose. All Clinton can do is turn people off to him.

[snooper2]

46. If it's McHillary or McSame...

I won't be voting...

More coporate whores in the whitehouse, more of the same...

Fuck them both, IF, and that's a big IF, they are on the ticket, the country deserves them...

[Eurobabe]

47. If she gets the nom (slim chance)

I will write in Obama and vote for my other State and local candidates.

[Lou Queb]

48. There are many who seem to base their non-voting rhetoric on campaign smears and

I wonder how good of a reason that is. Think about it, that's campaign politics afterall, what do you expect ? I understand that one or another candidate might go too far sometimes but Im amazed each time I read comments like yours, :-) no hard feelings mate, Im just observing and giving my take.

I would rather understand someone saying that he/she won't vote for any particular candidate based on more solid arguments like HRC is a corporate democrat you know...anyway, you have all the freedom to vote according to your deepest feelings, I believe any argument is valid, power to the individual !

Peace.

[samsingh]

53. Hillary is many times better than the idiot mccain

[TheDonkey]

54. I wouldn't be surprised to see her run as a 3rd party candidate

she's gone off the edge

[Yukari Yakumo]

56. I will not vote for a thief

And that's virtually the only way she can win it now.

If HRH HRC steals the nom, then I'll vote 3rd party (unless that's Nader, then I'll vote 4th party).