rndmprsn
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Tue Apr-15-08 08:52 AM
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Clinton will NEVER be President... |
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Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 09:03 AM by rndmprsn
not this time, not next time...certainly not in 2016. not ever.
they are washed up has beens of past politically impotent (for real dems) times....the sooner the clintons walk off the stage and fade away will be the BEST thing for the democratic party.
they are the PAST...we are the party of the FUTURE...get it?
EXAMPLES: DLC, PNAC, WALMART, CORPORATE SELL OUTS, cautious and triangulating, voted for the IWR, and wants war with IRAN, willing to do ANYTHING to win, voted for the BANKRUPTCY bill, etc...
if you agree please K&R...
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Tue Apr-15-08 08:53 AM
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1. YOu are not necessarily correct. |
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I just hope that we are not shooting ourselves in the foot again, with a mediocre democratic nominee.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:21 AM
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Indeed, a "mediocre nominee".
Monica! Monica! Monica!
Delude yourself into believing that that one name won't deliver a landslide for McCain if Bill's wife is the nominee.
There's mediocre and then there is suicidal.
Either embrace real change or lose.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:27 AM
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18. "Bill's wife" The skirt? Sexism at its finest |
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Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 09:38 AM by Evergreen Emerald
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:53 AM
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27. The repukes thrive on sexism and every other -ism |
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and if Clinton supporters think that the repukes will give their candidate a pass because they suddenly gained a conscious and sexism is passe, they are sadly delusional. Every single disgusting detail of that administration will be laid on the table including Vince Foster, Travelgate, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, et. al.
They DON'T care.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:58 AM
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28. So...you are suggesting that we should not support Clinton because of |
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republican sexism? Should we not support Obama because of republican racism?
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Tue Apr-15-08 10:42 AM
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32. No, I am saying that Clinton supporters need to realize that Obama |
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and his supporters are not the enemy.
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Tue Apr-15-08 07:36 PM
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42. then stop acting like it. |
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Tue Apr-15-08 01:00 PM
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41. We should not support her |
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Because of her actions, nothing more.
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Tue Apr-15-08 10:02 AM
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30. I hope for Monica's sake, this primary race is the end of the Clintons' blind ambitions. |
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This scandal from her early adulthood has marked her for life, but at least the paparazzi have generally left her alone lately. She got a master's degree from the London School of Economics (and got a standing ovation from her classmates when she received her degree) and has by and large disappeared from view. I'd like to point out that she's one of the few involved in the Clinton's various scandals who has not written a tell-all book.
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Tue Apr-15-08 07:42 PM
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43. what a right-wing ugly thing to say. |
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I am so offended by your post.
She was an adult.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:59 AM
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29. Mediocre is the last word... |
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I'd use to describe EITHER candidate.
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Tue Apr-15-08 12:50 PM
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John Kerry was mediocre, Hillary is untrustable while Obama has something special.
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Tue Apr-15-08 08:56 AM
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2. I liked this post until I read the last nine words.. |
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Obama supporters probably don't need the nudge.
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Tue Apr-15-08 08:56 AM
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3. Never. Indirectly or Directly, she represents PNAC. |
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They're not going away and she will ALWAYS be theirs. Her IWR vote clearly demonstrates that fact.
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Tue Apr-15-08 08:56 AM
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4. And not NY's senator as well. She pissed off too many blacks in NY. |
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Say goodbye Hillary and take your Republican supporters with you.
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Tue Apr-15-08 08:58 AM
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5. She could have been this time but hired hacks to run the backstage |
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operation, sanctioned surrogates to race-bait through the winter in NH, SC, and elsewhere, while consistently braying like a jackass about non-issues as an irritating overlay to lies on sniper-fire.
And that's on the days when she isn't boring people to bits as a public speaker.
She's lost the nomination that she once held in her hand and I agree with you that she will likely never be president.
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Tue Apr-15-08 12:56 PM
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37. True. There WERE a lot of people ready to go to her. |
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They were waiting on her to actually speak with them. She never did and a big part of that mistake was her campaign management.
It's too late now; she's shown that her priorities are screwed up, doesn't really give a damn about the party. She expected to get in somehow without us.
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Tue Apr-15-08 08:59 AM
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:00 AM
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7. Rush just LOVES the ones like you ! |
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:00 AM
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8. K Gardner is Right about those last 9 words. PLEASE heed . . . |
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Unless you think you can stop HC, now and/or in the future, all by yourself, you need to learn how to respect people who disagree with you, so that you have SOME chance of eliciting their cooperation in stopping her. To reject them out of hand, shuts the door on any possibility of their cooperation. Rejecting them is "cutting your own nose off to spite their face."
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:01 AM
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11. duly noted and affected... |
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:07 AM
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Not everyone is definitely in either end of the spectrum on any issue. Many are kind of "here and there", depends on the time of day or context or something . . . ?
It's a commonplace of activism that "You're not out to convince anyone, just to identify and organize those who agree with you." Given the way the current situaiton is ALL diced-up, I think that axiom is obsolete now. We gotta identify the leaners and the "middle-of-the-road" people and establish common cause with them somehow.
Solidarity, rndmprsn!
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:01 AM
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9. Neither will Obama. He isn't even a nice man (eom) |
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:10 AM
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14. Agree. I have it from reliable sources that he only pretends to be a |
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Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 09:59 AM by Old Crusoe
nice person, but that in reality he and Michelle put the kids to bed then go out into the living room and make crank calls to people, making fun of their names in the phone book, etc.
Also they siphon gas out of people's cars in the dead of night so the people wake up the next morning and don't have enough gas to drive to the hospital. Thousands have died.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:46 AM
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24. LOL--I hvae heard that they also |
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sneak into office buildings with fire ants in lunchboxes, which they plant in people's desk drawers. They have also been known to capture skunks in Havahart traps and let them loose in people's garages and under their porches.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:01 AM
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This country has moved on from their type of swill they call politics. She probably knows that she will never be president which is why she is trying to take down the party as if she were a spoiled child. It's not gonna happen though. This party will survive her rampage.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:07 AM
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13. Sigh. Those are reasons the GOP will crossover vote.... |
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and she will defeat McCain. Obama will not. The GE isn't looking real strong for him right now, including this Democrat's support.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:12 AM
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15. For someone with otherwise excellent political sense, you sure are |
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out in right field on this one.
A good deal of county Dems do not want Hillary Clinton at the top of the ticket.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:48 AM
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25. Nice to see you too OC..... |
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:evilgrin:
My political sense was more fire in my belly. That flame went out when JRE suspended, so now, I support the candidate I simply like better. I hope she's the nominee.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:52 AM
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26. Fair enough. Could be you know more than I do on this one, but it's |
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my best insinct that between the two remaining junior senators, the one from Illinois will be our nominee.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:14 AM
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16. GE has always been HRC's weakest point...she does not |
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appeal to anyone outside the core of the dem party (she doesn't even appeal to most of obama's dems)...forget, crossover repubs and independents and forget about the WH is she is the candidate
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:42 AM
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There is such a slim possibility now that she could pull this nomination off that if she did the stench of skull duggary would be so thick it would make the 2000 coup pale in comparison.
People won't fall for the crap 3 times in a row. A huge part of her base will stay home. The crossover Republican votes she is enjoying now won't be there either. They want Hillary in a battle with McCain so bad they can taste it. Thats why the Republicans are in her corner...for now.
If as little as 20% of her base stayed home and the Republicans vote for whom the are loyal to (which they will in the GE) McCain beats her in a landslide. Republicans play to win and they darn sure get out and vote, and if one is going to beat the Republicans they are going to have to get hip and get to the polls. It's obvious we are getting to the polls thats why the Republicans are desperate and if they can't pick their winner they'll settle to nominate our looser.
I have seen the Republican run Bible Colleges let out to vote and the poll lines are a million miles long. They are not Hillary voters, believe that. Hillary is wasting her time if she thinks she'll make up lost base votes with Republican and Ind. crossovers. She is not that popular with Republicans.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:29 AM
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19. K&R ... agreed. She will never be president or VP. |
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She might be president of a college someday, however.
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:36 AM
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20. typical OP of the denizens of obamanation. nt |
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Tue Apr-15-08 09:38 AM
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22. She has no sense of 'Huma' |
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Tue Apr-15-08 10:04 AM
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31. Yes she will be President in Jan/09. Obama won't. Period. |
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Tue Apr-15-08 10:43 AM
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33. barb, you're likely a great person. You deserve a great candidate for |
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president.
Unhappilly for you, you're backing HClinton.
She's lost the nomination.
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Tue Apr-15-08 12:59 PM
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40. I know of at least one major long-time Democrat in this area who is pledged to her and |
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now embarassed by her performance and regrets being pledge to her.
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my fervent hope is that the Party will once again, put out the tent stakes and embrace it's core values...
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