I'm sick of this elitist crap.

[Indiana_Dem]

I'm really getting turned off by the media exacerbating this elitist spin. Just think about it.

What makes me mad is that NOBODY seems to recognize that just as the media spinned that John Kerry was married to a multi-billionare, Teresa Heinz, John McCain is also married to an elite woman with a lot of money. Why doesn't the media focus on this fact just as they did with John Kerry!? This is really frustrating.

I think it would be a good idea for everyone who reads this to point this out to the media with emails. They need to be bombarded with emails about this bias that they have.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Jon Stewart said it right: If you're running for President aren't you elite?

I want a president who's better than me. Right now we have a blithering idiot. Bring on the elites!

[leftofcool]

3. Pretty much pegs em all........from Washington to Bushco 2

[Indiana_Dem]

8. Yeah, I agree.

What are they talking about? They're ALL elite! I, myself, don't care if someone is elite or not. I just can't stand how the media is jumping on Obama as being elite when there is no way they shouldn't be speaking about McCain and his "elite" wife and her family.

[SteppingRazor]

2. I liked Jon Stewart's take last night:

"Not only do I want an elite president, I want someone who's embarrassingly superior to me."


Christ, when did it become bad to be the best and the brightest? The president of the country should be better than the average joe. What's wrong with that?

[LaurenG]

7. Good point

:7

[Moochy]

11. "when did it become bad to be the best and the brightest?"

When the right found that rabid anti-intellectualism dovetails nicely with the de-funding of public education.

Probably right about when the Reagan Revolution took over the country.

[Mz Pip]

4. So much for the liberal media

One almost thinks these MSM people want a McCain presidency. Maybe they do, though I can't for the life of me imagine why.

[SoonerPride]

6. They like afternoon naps, like they had during Grampa Reagans years

And they want them back

[bklyncowgirl]

17. Certainly some of the do, Joe Scarborough and Pat Buchanan for example.

Not to mention everyone on Fox News. They've been joined in this by their temporary allies the Clintonite pundits and analysts.

[Johonny]

5. Bush thinks God made him president

but you know Republicans aren't elitist...

[kentuck]

9. Television was not made for news...

It was made for entertainment.

[Leftist Agitator]

28. "It was made for entertainment."

Perhaps, but too many Americans, especially those over 60, are laboring under the misapprehension that if it's on television news, it must be true.

[cbayer]

29. Especially those over 60?

Where do you get that idea? If anything, I think it is younger people that are ruled by the tube.

[knixphan]

10. Teresa Heinz gets the label

But the Cylon gets a pass. You're exactly right.

[beandoc]

12. It's all about pinning a label on someone.

It doesn't require a lot of thought, and it sure doesn't need to be true. All you do is emphasize one example where you could construe words or actions to make the label apply. Then let confirmation bias do its work. Anything that the candidate does that could possibly fit the label is emphasized and anything that doesn't fit the label is ignored.
John Kerry is a flip-flopper.
Al Gore is an elite out of touch Washington insider.
George W. Bush is dumb (OK, bad example).
The media loves it because it's easy, can be applied in short simple segments that don't require thought or nuances that could stretch the attention span of their viewers. It becomes the caracature portrayed on late night TV. Soon enough, John Q Public feels informed enough to say,"I don't like this candidate because he/she is a (apply label here)."

[Fredda Weinberg]

13. There's nothing wrong w/elite, but I was taught not to look down on others

I guess Barry has to learn for himself.

[Moochy]

15. based on your loathsome posting history here..

You need some remedial lessons in that "not looking down on others" thing.

[Fredda Weinberg]

18. See my tagline for details. My posting history reflects the environment

As for Barry's problem w/true believers, well, I won't look down on what I was, so the lesson has not been lost. We don't know the man's true faith - unless you see Christ in him.

[Name removed]

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[Moochy]

27. "we don't know the man's true faith"

I mis characterized your venomous posts as the work of a hack. For that I apologize. You are clearly a professional.

[TheDoorbellRang]

44. So Freddy, why do you need to know more about his faith?

Last time I checked, that wasn't a prerequisite for the presidency.

[blm]

16. Yet you support the POWERFUL ELITE who look after each other. Clintons protect Bushes

and you all find ways to support them on that bit of privilege.

[Fredda Weinberg]

19. Ah, privilege ... like racism, another loaded term that bites the

Democratic Party every quadrennial. Resentments vs aspiration ... classic conundrum for candidates.

I'm a realist: privilege exists. I've eschewed for myself which is all I can ask. You expect sacrifice from others and will always be disappointed.

Worse yet, you've positioned yourself as my political opponent, which is downright silly, since we supposedly share values. That's why this is silly season, so all accusations from anonymous critics falls flat.

[Moochy]

21. "anonymous critics"

As opposed to the World Famous Fredda Weinberg.

[Fredda Weinberg]

40. Don't need fame, dear. n/t

[RaleighNCDUer]

24. Spoken like a True Believer -

sacrafice for yourself, for the benefit of the elite.

[Fredda Weinberg]

41. I was ... and the system still works. I can defy it, but don't expect

others to give up benefits. No, not everyone can be privileged, but in a healthy society - animal or human - privileges can be shared. That's the essense of tribal society ... what keeps bin Laden going?

I walked away from my closed society and rigid ideology ... let DU be the environment I was seeking, where reason rules.

[Jed Dilligan]

42. You mean like when you call a grown man by his childhood nickname?

That kind of looking down on others?

[ClassWarrior]

14. Yup, it's a Luntzian RW meme, and when it's used it enables the Rape-Publicans...

...no matter WHO it's used against.

NGU.

[eleny]

22. I believe that elite is code for "uppity"

Since those pushing this whole deal are aching to use the word uppity in public but can't, they repeat the "elite" meme over and over and over. They're dancing on the very edge here but it keeps on and on.

That's my take on the embracing of the concept of his being "elite".

[amandabeech]

23. Maybe they will once the General Election gets going.

McCain is pretty much a non-story now.

The action is with the Dems, and pretty much the Dems only.

I'll withhold judgment on this one.

[jakem]

25. BUT... BUT.. Hillary is a whiskey and beer drinking good old boy with a gun...

and 107 million in the bank.

:eyes:

[GoldieAZ49]

26. If they had an audio clip of McCain insulting Middle America they would run with it

money doesn't make an elitist, attitude does.

In his own words Obama has shown what he thinks of middle America, and it isn't pretty.

[Indiana_Dem]

30. I'm IN middle America, and if this is what he really meant,

then I totally agree with him. I've lived in a small rural town of less than 100,000 most of my life (43 years) aside from 7 years in large metropolitan areas. Like someone else has said, the base of the Republican party (which happens to include a majority of middle America) always clings to the single issues like the ones Obama has mentioned-God, guns & gays. The opponent clings to these issues when they can't offer up justification for their other viewpoints which even they don't understand goes against their own interests. That's middle America for ya. I guess I'm one of the exceptions. Gotta go to work.bye :)

[nichomachus]

32. Do you mean

like John McCain saying that the "average American" wouldn't pick lettuce even if you paid them $100,000 a year?

That's pretty out of touch with reality -- but that happens when you're constantly flying in your private jet between your eight houses.

It's actually pretty insulting -- because it assumes that the average American is making more than $100K -- and those are the only people he cares about. Anyone making under that is just a peon to him.

[GoldieAZ49]

33. I make less than that and I COULDN'T pick lettuce for $100,000 a year

my dad and aunt picked cotton as a teenager it is hard work in the sun.

I remember that comment, it was all over the media, he offered to pay that if the average American worked the whole season.

I wouldn't last a day.

[nichomachus]

34. Well, that's you

I live in the desert -- not far from AZ. There are plenty of regular folk -- American citizens -- who work in the sun all summer for a hell of a lot less than $100,000. McCain insulted all of them, telling them they're not "real Americans" because they do work no real American would do.

[GoldieAZ49]

35. I can see why they would be insulted

and have the most to lose with the illegal immigration that takes those jobs.

I like the way Canada employs migrant farmers, they document them as such, feed, clothe and shelter them for the season then pay them and send them back to Mexico (They pay their transportation costs both ways).

[nichomachus]

36. Illegal immigration is a phony issue

devised by thew GOP so US workers would have someone to blame after the GOP ruined the middle class. It's the same tactic used by the Nazis who got Germans to believe that the Jews were the cause of all their economic problems.

[GoldieAZ49]

37. I disagree

It has almost destroyed our hospitals here, several urgent care and emergency rooms have had to close. It has increased crime and created financial problems within the school system. There is violence against our border patrol. Worst of all: the deaths in the deserts every summer is awful.

The GOP does nothing to stop it because they want the cheap labor. Mexico encourages it because they send most of their wages back to Mexico. It is the modern day slavery issue that no one wants to address.

[nichomachus]

38. Why does that not surprise me

Lou Dobbs -- is that you?

[GoldieAZ49]

39. McCain, is that you?

[walldude]

43. The exact thing could be said of the Bush administration,

almost destroyed health care, and did for many Americans. Increased crime, created financial problems in schools. Not to mention that there is 18 BILLION dollars MISSING in Iraq. somehow I bet that 18 BILLION DOLLARS could solve lots of the "problems" "caused" by illegals. But is anyone demanding to know where that money is? Has anyone in the media talked about it? Is Lou Dobbs the big economist going on TV every fucking night demanding to know what happened to our 18 billion dollars? No, all our woes are caused by brown people coming here illegally and stealing our jobs while taking welfare and living like kings.

[nichomachus]

31. Not only am I sick of it . .

my butler is sick of it, the chauffeur is sick of it, all the maids are sick of it, the gardener is livid, and the cook is beside herself.

:rofl: