Obama is a "Corporatist" - where does this come from???

[LSK]

What in his past indicates this?

What is the basis for this outlandish claim?

I see people saying this a lot here but I cant fathom of anything in his past that indicates this.

[YOY]

1. From this man's ass:

You have to believe in magic to really understand... sigh...

[Doctor_J]

2. Strange. I thought he was a Marxist

Or was Marx a corporatist? :shrug:

[MNDemNY]

3. Maybe his SUPPORT for the Cheney "energy plan"?

[papau]

13. that and 88 major corporate "bundlers"& "NEW WAY"=tax cut for corps only fiscal bill passed with GOP

[Andy823]

4. Comes from

The "Clinton" camp! They need to paint him as "elite", out of touch, a corporatist, anything that will make the voters doubt him. Doesn't matter if it's true or not, we have already found that out, they just want to get this kind of crap out there, and the think the average voters will not bother to research things, they will just accept whatever the Clintons throw out!

Just another slimy republican tactic that the Clintons have become "master's" at using against a fellow democrat!

[Bonobo]

5. Wait, I heard today from Lieberman that he was more like a Marxist...

[cliffordu]

20. Yeah, he looks like a communist motherfucker to me....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[jakefrep]

6. Just what the hell IS a "corporatist"?

Just wondering, since it's a term that gets thrown around indiscriminately around here.

[LSK]

9. one who always votes for the Corporations instead of the people

[kentuck]

7. He's also a "progressive" and a "union lover"...

Isn't that terrible? Think of how socialist our country will become if he is the President. We cannot permit that to happen. Let's have a poll and see how many people think Obama is too "socialistic"? Will this hurt him in the general election? Also, he prefers orange juice over coffee! Can you believe it? Call your Congressman now!

[Buzz Clik]

8. "Corporatist" is a buzz word for wannabe socialists trying to impress their friends.

It's generally uttered whenever someone has the brass balls to question Hugo Chavez or suggest that not all social programs have turned out well.

[Armstead]

12. Oh that's just bullshit

Your right-wing dismissal of criticisms of oligarchs is pretty damn short sighted.

There's a whole lot of difference between supporting free enterprise, capitalism, etc, and being a corporatist.

If you support taking away regulation from broadcasting and allowing a handful of powerful corporations to own the media, you might be a corportist.

If you believe it's fine for banks and otehr financial services firms to congeal into a handful of all-powerful corporations, you might be a corporatist.

If you believe that public services should be privatized, you might be a corporatist.

Etc.

[Buzz Clik]

15. So, you've been busy explaining to the wannabes that Obama is not a corporatist?

Or is this only for my benefit?

[Armstead]

19. It's for your benefit -- I think Obama is a little bit of a corporatist

But much less so than Hillary.

[rndmprsn]

10. three letters...HRC

[SoCalDem]

11. Rove's Playbook..page 47..sub-section VII

:grr:

[Adelante]

14. If you mean on DU, as I recall

It came from you guys last year :D

[RaleighNCDUer]

17. Last year, when Kucinich and Gravel and Edwards were running,

Obama looked like a corporatist.

He is a moderate who does not back single-payer universal healthcare (at least not publicly) and that leaves a lot of power in the hands of the medical industry and insurance industy - makes his stance appear corporatist.

BUT he is not DLC, which is wholly owned by the corporations, and he does not reject the assistance of populists and progressives while he DOES reject corporate lobby funding, which at this point in the race makes him beholden to the populist/progressive wing, rather than the corporate wing, so it is safe to say he is NOT a corporatist.

So last year's meme no longer stands.

[BlooInBloo]

18. Shorter: Moonbeam McCrazypants supporters were full of shit.

[Zodiak]

21. NCevilDUer

That was spot on!

:yourock:

[LSK]

22. that is simply not true

Just because he has a different philosophy on how to get there does not mean you say he does not want single payer universal healthcare, especially in light of his work in IL on the subject.

The play that is true single payer is HR 676. But that would not pass Congress as it is. The American people have been brainwashed too badly so we will never make the leap to Univeral Healthcare in one step, we need incremental steps to get there.

In any event, the differences between Hillary's and Baracks healthcare plans are irrelevant because Congress would change either plan anyways.

The important thing is that Obama and Hillary would sign any healthcare plan that comes out of Congress and McCain would veto it.

[JoFerret]

23. Indeed it did

So people - stop all the huffing and puffing.

Neither candidate is "pure". Both are politicians playing hard to win. Neither are the second coming of Christ. Nor the ant-Christ.

[L0oniX]

16. Hillarat ...Walmart ...What?

[jackson_dem]

24. Edwards' campaign manager offered the strongest evidence

Obama sold out on health care in Illinois on behalf of drug company and insurance company lobbyists. That is the prime example and Bonior called him a corporate sellout for it. Exelon is another prominent example, as is his record on coal.