MSNBC: Philly DJ said undecideds moving away from Obama due to "bitter" remarks

[npincus]

saturating the airwaves over the past day there, based on his most recent listeners' phone calls. He said up until now, Obama was doing well with these voters, and they are not talking about "Bosnia-gate"- that is getting no coverage anymore. He said they were looking for a reason to vote for Obama, but have been negatively influenced by this "bitter" kerfuffle.

This guy does not seem to have a bias, and seems to be telling it as he sees it. So... what I would suggest, as an Obama supporter, that he dip into negative waters and get a quick ad out on teevee highlighting the Bosnia confabulation, and slamming her on it- before tomorrow night's debate, so it can be DISCUSSED at the debate, and remind voters of this episode. I think he needs to slam HRC on this now.

on EDIT: a DUer (Post #37) cited that he/she was pretty sure the radio host was Dom Giordano- a conservative. I don't believe that MSNBC introduced him that way, but referred to him as a DJ from Philly. So there you (probably) have it- some conservative asshole talking down Obama, probably wanting the success of the weaker GE candidate.

[JKaiser]

1. How come Obama won't apologize for his remarks.. It would make things better

[azmouse]

5. Why should he apologize for telling the truth?

[shadowknows69]

7. Um, he has said he wished he would have worded it differently

Nothing to apologize for, he just needs to dumb his comments down a bit for certain people it seems.

[JKaiser]

12. That's not an apology... He is just showing his arrogance for not..

[smiley_glad_hands]

51. The arrogance is by Hill and her supporters. The party is not yours to destroy. eom

[cali]

53. no. he's demonstrating that he won't shy from what he believes

is true. that's not arrogance. And it is true. It wasn't even something we argued about here at DU a few short months ago.

[JoFerret]

57. Supercilious is one word

that fits.

[quantass]

8. Why should he apologize. The point he was making is true. Its the MSM thats the prob.

[Bonobo]

9. Oh, right. You wouldn't recognize what it is cause you never see it in your candidate.

It's called "political courage" (as opposed to "political cowardice".)

[JKaiser]

15. I am just saying that he should or this is going to be a big problem. If it hasn't already..

[keep_it_real]

19. Obama has already apologized for his remarks

It is the MSM that is keeping this story going and Hillary of course.

[JKaiser]

21. He didn't say " I apologize for..." He just said he used the wrong choice of words..

It's not the same thing.. He needs to apologize or it's going to be a problem

[crankychatter]

35. jeebus... all the way down the thread... panic panic panic

ok Chicken Little...

I'm going to have to give you a time out if you don't calm down

[JoFerret]

56. Because it is what he really thinks

It was a political gaffe only.

[cliffordu]

58. Why apologize for the truth???

[JKaiser]

2. How come Obama won't apologize for his remarks.. It would make things better

[thewiseguy]

6. He said that he regrets the wording of his remarks.

[quantass]

11. Anyone that is offended NO DOUBT was brainwashed by the media's out-of-context suggestions

[JKaiser]

18. Well he needs to stop the fire before it spreads.. HE should apologize..He needs to give a speech

or something like he did about race..

[crankychatter]

25. there is no fire, that DJs info is anecdotal and skewed... he's a liar

he got on National Television though... he's probably thinkin "Sirius" and counting his loot RIGHT NOW

[Texas Hill Country]

22. what he SAID was elitist, what he meant may not have been. He needs to distance himself now.

[crankychatter]

33. It's going to be a long ride... they will be frying his ass till he takes the oath of office

so relax and watch... defend the last Democrat standing

they ALWAYS do this... to every anti-war candidate since flippin McGovern

BUT NOT THIS TIME

This time the American people are FED UP... they know they're kept in the dark and fed bullshit by the media... like flippin mushrooms

WE know it... and we're not going to take it anymore

NOT THIS TIME

[brentspeak]

50. I was offended by the stupidity of his comments, and I don't watch TV

or pay attention to media shills, either.

[crankychatter]

30. He DID apologize ya big goof... take a Xanax, will ya?

breathe into this bag

[smiley_glad_hands]

52. What would make things better is Hill not using republican frames angainst dems.

How about not tearing down the party?

[0007]

3. Right on!!

[stellanoir]

4. Honest social commentary that was poorly phrased versus

total embellishment if not complete fabrication.

No frigging contest.

[npincus]

10. there's a mushy middle who are unduly influenced by the latest

soundbite fed to them ad nauseum... people who don't make up their mind until the last minute. Thoses folks may mean the difference between a close margin or a landslide. i'm afraid that these mushy folk need to be reminded of HRC's insincerity and pathological lying, or they may have slipped away.

The truth cannot be ignored here- we still have time.

[Connie_Corleone]

13. If they want to vote for someone (Hillary) who lies about sniper fire.

Lies about NAFTA, then they have every right to.

Just don't come crying to us when you still don't have jobs, you're still paying high gas prices, you lose your homes when you can't pay your mortgage, or you still can't afford healthcare.

You get what you vote for.

[malik flavors]

14. msnbc first read said Obama will probably answer her negative ad today.

[high density]

16. They aren't bitter?

If they aren't bitter after Bushco then they'll probably be voting for McCain in the fall anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter.

Alzheimers disease and mid/long term memory losss seems to run rampant in the voting public.

[SeaLyons]

38. ....

your insensitivity matches the level of your candidate.

[DefenseLawyer]

17. Who is the "Philly DJ"?

It is hard to put much stock in it without knowing more. If he is a radio call-in show about politics, chances are he is a right winger and his audience is the same. If that is the case, it is kinda like asking Pat Buchanan about his "honest assessment" of the Democratic race (which to my amazement, is done repeatedly every day). He might have his own agenda.

[npincus]

20. I didn't see his name in a caption- he must have been introduced

but I didn't catch it. MSNBC will probably play it again- I'll try to catch it if I am tuned in.

I will say that from his conversation, the inference was that his callers were Dems who had been trying to figure out who they would support.

Of course what you say may be true. But i think we do ourselves no good by ignnoring what may harm us while there is some time to effect a result.

[GoesTo11]

54. Probably this guy

[DefenseLawyer]

55. Perhaps Dr. Johnny Fever is in a new market

The man never could hold a job.

[crankychatter]

23. I saw that on the idiot box the other day... I think he's a lying asshole

and an idiot

[BumRushDaShow]

24. Who is this DJ?

I don't have access to a tv at the moment. What is the "DJ's" name or was this a local talk show host?

I don't particularly think that for a city of 1.5 million with dozens of radio stations, that some "DJ" supposedly speaks for and can even grasp the sentiment of an entire state of 12,000,000 people. If anything, this type of crap pushes people in the city here to vote even more for Obama, just as what happened in SC.

[npincus]

32. don't shoot the messenger.

I will try to catch it if/when it is rebroadcast and I am watching. Surely someone else here was watching- and maybe can assist.

I really think Obama should go much harder on Hillary- the Bosnia episode is the most damaging one and tailor-made for easy mass consumption. If voters are reinded that she lies like a rug, then can she really be trusted on ANYTHING she says? So, I think he ought to blast away immediately, and let this be brought up at the debate.

[BumRushDaShow]

44. There's no shooting of the messenger.

Only making note of your OP that says "This guy does not seem to have a bias, and seems to be telling it as he sees it."

Those of us who live here in Philadelphia are aware of most of the talk hosts and their biases, again, assuming this was not the host of a music show ("DJ" - disk jockey) who has suddenly become an on-the-fly political pundit. These people ALL have "regular callers", not unlike Rash Limpballs, who will parrot whatever they are told to parrot and in fact on many shows, there are plant callers (including the use of the show's producers) who are used to "call in" to act like some random caller to make the show more "entertaining" or fill dead air when no one is calling.

My mother taped a program from the black talk radio station here yesterday (WURD) and played it to me last night. The callers were saying the COMPLETE opposite of what that "DJ" was claiming and many had some pretty rough stories and comments about Clinton and what made them bitter. One even described how he first went to Northeast High here in Philly (not sure when but probably back in the '70s) and how he asked his teachers about taking the academic courses and they insisted that he should take "shop" class instead - and this made him "bitter". And the stories continued on and on about bitterness for the next 3 hours, including pointing out the hypocracy of the $109 million dollar candidate.

I think there MUST be a careful balance about going "negative"... Through 45 contests, Obama has NOT had to do that and he IS WINNING... so why start now? The Clintons want to drag him down into the mud and reinforce what voters have been saying all along about the nonsense that politicians engage in. He has surrogates out there who can address her so he can be above that fray and talk about ISSUES. I think the general public is aware about the soap-opera saga of the Clintons and sadly, those of us following this so closely are being exposed to a magnified version of reality that is very much distorted.

The key is to undertand that Clinton HAS LOST and we are now just going through the motions. There is no way, based on the proportional assignment of delegates, for her to even get close as she will need to win 65% of ALL the remaining contests, which is the bare minimum needed for her to even TIE.

[Tarheel_Dem]

26. please don't be alarmist. it serves no one.....

I agree Obama should be more forceful in his criticisms of Hillary, but he's already let us know that he doesn't want to engage in the politics of the Clinton years.

And as for callers to radio shows, don't you know that those people were Clinton voters and GOP operatives anyway? I've also heard radio hosts say that most Clinton supporters sound as if they're reading from a pre-approved script when they call in to complain about alleged anti-Hillary bias. Hillary's campaign has been very effective at bullying the media via people like Taylor Marsh & Larry "No Quarter" Johnson. Surely you witnessed that "POTS & PANS" fiasco, right?

[knixphan]

27. 'undecideds' = were looking for a reason to vote anti-Obama anyway.

Not a loss.

[Tarheel_Dem]

31. Agreed.....

:thumbsup:

[ShortnFiery]

28. I'm sick of the "dirty tricks" that HRC is playing - Bullshit! It will cause a backlash!

but you know that don't you and your sig line sticker betrays your M.O. :evilgrin:

[MadBadger]

29. The Montgomery County Chair, a Clintonite, said that its not having an impact really in his area.

Thats the philly suburbs. He said it on Hardball yesterday.

[Doctor_J]

34. Wow. Hate radio is shilling for Hil. I can't believe it!

:sarcasm:

[izzybeans]

36. So they have stooped to citing zoo crew DJ's as reliable polling sources

Nice work MSNBC, nice work.

"Random dude claims he knows stuff" news at 11.

[Moochy]

40. MSNBC:Happy Holidays from MSNBC Prison Documentaries!

Its a long day and MSNBC has about 6 hours to fill... cut them some slack :evilgrin:

It's not like it's an actual news organization, like CNN has (not that it helps them to produce anything resembling journalism)

MSNBC, It's a prison-military-industrial-complex conditioning device.

[Teaser]

37. Philly DJ?

I'm fairly sure you're talking about Dom Giordano and he's not a DJ. He's a conservative talk show host.


FAIL.

[npincus]

39. Did you see it? He was referred to as a 'Philly DJ" was he not?

Happy to correct hte OP soubject line while I still can- please advise ASAP. thanks.

[Teaser]

41. I would not be surprised if MSNBC mislabelled him

they've FAILed more often than I can count.

[BumRushDaShow]

46. And if they WERE talking about Dom

then ALERT TO READERS - HE IS A WACKO LIBERTARIAN!

It boggles my mind that all the card-carrying Libertarian talk show hosts that we have here have been silent about supporting their OWN like Ron Paul or now Mike Gravel and have even been soft on the neocons and Bush, who have done EVERYTHING to put into place a government that is the antithesis of Libertarianism.

They laid down with the dogs.

[knixphan]

42. Philly blog debate in progress

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Barack_on_torture.html

[Vinca]

43. It's very sad. If the stupid people manage to resurrect Hillary,

we'll be giving John McCain the gift of a lifetime.

[Ronnie]

45. Yikes!

"If the stupid people manage to resurrect Hillary..."

With supporters like you...

[Vinca]

47. With supporters like me? I'm not supporting her.

She's a gift to the Republicans.

[Cha]

48. NOT THIS TIME!

Sorry, NOT THIS TIME.

[PCIntern]

49. Giordano is a POS RW Shill/shithead...

and that's his FAMILY talking about him.

Trust me...