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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:07 AM
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THE GOOD NEWS FOR OBAMA: Maybe this bit from the

THE GOOD NEWS FOR OBAMA: Maybe this bit from the Rezko trial will distract people from his remarks about gun-loving, churchgoing bitter Americans.

Obama on Auchi in his own words U.S. Presidential candidate Barack Obama sat down with Chicago Sun-Times reporters March 14th and answered a laundry list of questions regarding his relationship with Tony Rezko.

At that time, reporters also asked Obama about whether he had a relationship with Nadhmi Auchi.

Read on for the Q & A;

Q: . . . Have you ever met Nadhmi Auchi or Dr. Aiham Alsammarae?

A: I have to say I do not recall meeting them. It’s been reported that a dinner that Tony hosted at the Four Seasons — I don’t have the exact date, so I don’t know

whether it was before November ’04 when I hadn’t been elected but had already won the primary or whether it was after the election, in which I was . . . Tony called and

asked if I could stop by because he had a number of friends that he had invited to dinner and he wanted me to meet them. I told him that I would be happy to come by

if my schedule allowed it. And it did. Although I couldn’t, I think, stay for dinner, so I remember meeting a bunch of people who I had not met before. I frankly don’t

remember what their names were. Business was not discussed at the meeting. It was more of a social meeting and they asked me questions about the Senate race

and so forth and so on.


Q: But you have no specific recollection?

I have no specific recollection. But again, they may have been there. So I can’t say unequivocally that I did not meet them, but I just don’t recall.

Q: Did you ever help Auchi enter the country?

A: No

Q: Or your office, that you know of?

A: “Not that I know of.”


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

Another bad week for Obama. He is worse than my 80 year old granny...He can not remember ANYTHING!
So..anyway, for those who DO care..these just a few lil headlines I put together for you to show you what the rest of the blog/ planet is talking about, outside of DU!


Obama bomb dropped
Sun Times: Eye on Rezko Blog
2008-04-14 19:21:26


Jeff Coen and Bob Secter, Levine's '04 dinner discussion scrutinized. Cross-examination again gets testy for key witness, Chicago Tribune, April 14, 2008.

At Developer’s Trial, Witness Recalls Seeing Obamas at 2004 Party for Investor, New York Times, April 15, 2008.

Bob Secter, Levine: Obama a guest at '04 party for tycoon. Witness says Rezko threw party to help development, Chicago Tribune, April 15, 2008.

John Ruberry, Rezko trial: Obama's previously unreported 2004 visit to Tony's mansion, Marathon Pundit, April 15, 2008.

Fleaflicker, Obama-Auchi Connection Becoming Clearer, TexasDarlin Blog, April 15, 2008.





Obama on Auchi in his own words
Sun Times: Eye on Rezko Blog
2008-04-14 19:44:39
U.S. Presidential candidate Barack Obama sat down with Chicago Sun-Times reporters



Obama Just Got Caught In A Lie On Rezko
Say Anything Mobile: North Dakota's Most Popular Political Blog
2008-04-15 01:52:00


Rezko trial witness says Obama attended party for billionaire
ABC7 Chicago
2008-04-14 20:49:05
Illinois Senator Barack Obama's name came up Monday at the corruption trial of political fundraiser Tony Rezko.

Witness: Obama Attended Rezko Party
The Examiner
2008-04-14 20:21:56
The government's star witness at the fraud trial of political fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko testified Monday that he attended a party for a British billionaire at Rezko's

home, where Sen. Barack Obama and his wife also were among the guests



Witness: Obama Attended Rezko Party
The Associated Press
2008-04-14 17:30:45
CHICAGO (AP) -- The government's star witness at the fraud trial of Antoin "Tony" Rezko testified Monday that Sen. Barack Obama and his wife attended a party four

years ago at the home of the indicted political fundraiser....

Rezko trial: Who has the bad memory now'
Sun Times: Eye on Rezko Blog
2008-04-14 17:06:44

Witness At Rezko Trial Says Obama Attended Billionaire's Party
NBC5 Chicago
2008-04-14 15:50:18
The government's star witness at the fraud trial of Antoin "Tony" Rezko testifies that Sen. Barack Obama and his wife



Witness at Rezko trial says Obama attended party for billionaire
ABC7 Chicago
2008-04-14 14:43:14
The government's star witness at the fraud trial of Antoin "Tony" Rezko testified Monday that Sen. Barack Obama and his wife attended a party four years ago at the

home of the now-disgraced political fundraiser.


Obama Doesn't Recall..or Caught out in a LIE
UNCoRRELATED
2008-04-14 20:14:53
Fallout from the Rezko trial in Chicago today. Obama mentioned. AP story here.



Witness at Rezko trial says Obama attended party for billionaire
ABC7 Chicago
2008-04-14 14:43:14
The government's star witness at the fraud trial of Antoin "Tony" Rezko testified Monday that Sen. Barack Obama and his wife


Rezko Trial: Levine Atteneded Party with Obama
WBBM Chicago
2008-04-14 14:39:00


CHICAGO FRAUD TRIAL: OBAMA ATTENDED DEFENDANT’S PARTY
Blogonaut
2008-04-14 19:55:00
CHICAGO (AP) — The government's star witness at the fraud trial of Antoin "Tony" Rezko testified Monday that Sen. Barack Obama and his wife

attended a party four years ago at the home of the indicted political fundraiser




Rezko Trial: Levine Atteneded Party with Obama
WBBM Chicago
2008-04-14 14:39:00
The government's star witness at the fraud trial of political fundraiser Antoin ``Tony'' Rezko testified Monday that he attended a party for a British billionaire at Rezko's

home, where Sen. Barack Obama and his wife

Tony Rezko Trial: Ripped from the Back Pages!
Red Marilyn
2008-04-14 19:54:55
Today's tidbit from the trial of Barack Obama crony Tony Rezko involves Saddam Hussein linked British businessman Nadhmi Auchi. Tony Rezko threw a party for

Auchi and Mr. and Mrs. Obama were in attendance according to this.

Does political fundraising equal corruption'
Sun Times: Eye on Rezko Blog
2008-04-14 12:02:13
A highlight exchange this morning with Stuart Levine back on the stand and Joseph Duffy still asking questions: Duffy: 'You would agree with me that political fund-

raising is different than engaging in a corrupt transaction'' Levine:

Rezko Trial Witness Says Obama Attended Party for Auchi at Rezko's Mansion
TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime
2008-04-14 19:10:00
Bump and Update: The Chicago Sun Times now has the testimony and more details,



Iraqi connection
Sun Times: Eye on Rezko Blog
2008-04-14 10:59:26
A 60 Minutes report Sunday evening that focused on corruption in Iraq mentioned a Chicago area man with connections to Tony Rezko. He is Aiham Alsammarae,

former minister of electricity in Iraq who was jailed on corruption charges.

Obama-Rezko-Auchi-Hussein, again
illinoisreview
2008-04-14 18:33:44
AP is reporting that Obama's name came up today in the Rezko trial. Prosecution key witness Stuart Levine testified that Barack Obama met with an Iraqi-born

billionaire who made part of his fortune selling arms to Saddam Hussein. The occasion...

Who's Obama Partying With'
Cheat Seeking Missiles
2008-04-14 16:45:00


Obama met Auchi through Rezko in 2004
Hot Air

BARACK AND MICHELLE OBAMA
PrestoPundit
2008-04-14 17:21:06
attended a party with the man who supplied the money Mrs. Rezko used to buy the yard that went with the multi-million dollar Chicago mansion Obama bought at a

fire-sale price. Nadhmi Auchi is the Iraqi born billionaire who was convicted in the largest corruption scandal in European history

Obama Partied with Crook Rezko & "taste for blood" Saddam hatchet man Auchi
Atlas Shrugs
2008-04-14 17:23:02
Obama was partying with extortionist thug Antoin Rezko and blood for money dealer Nadhmi Auchi at a party in 2004. Auchi was charged along with Saddam Hussein

for conspiring to assassinate Iraqi President Abdul-Karim Qasim in 1959. Qasim was injured while his bodyguard was killed;

Obama Met Nadhmi Auchi Back in 2004
The American Pundit



So What Does It Mean That Obama Attended the Party...
The Campaign Spot on National Review Online
2008-04-14 17:36:32
Many have linked to this item in the Chicago Tribuneamp;#39;s coverage (and this item in the Sun-Times coverage) of the Rezko trial, pointing out that... . . .

Obama surprise at Rezko trial
John In Carolina
2008-04-14 17:37:00
The Chicago Tribune updating the Rezko trial today - - - Obama appeared at 2004 party at Rezko's home April 14, 2008; 12:57 p.m.Democratic presidential contender

Barack Obama's name came up again at the Antoin "Tony" Rezko corruption trial and in a way that earlier filings in the case did not telegraph.Stuart Levine, the

prosecution's star witness, said he and Obama were at a party Rezko threw at his Wilmette mansion on April 3, 2004, for Nadhmi Auchi, a controversial Iraqi-born

billionaire who Rezko was trying to get to invest in a South Loop real-estate development.


Obama "barely knew Rezko"...HA!
Psychobabble and Potpourri
2008-04-14 17:41:00
Hey, don't blame me..those were HIS words, not mine.Rezko Trial Witness Says Obama Attended Party for Auchi at Rezko's MansionBy Jeralyn, From

TalkLeftPosted on Mon Apr 14, 2008 at 03:50:49 PM


Rezko Witness Leaves New Questions about Obama Real Estate Deal Unanswered
Pajamas Media
2008-04-15 04:45:36
Obama's connection to a shady Iraqi-born British businessman was confirmed in bombshell Rezko trial testimony on Monday. Who is Nadhmi Auchi and why might

Obama be back in hot water over the real estate deal on his house'


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Obama the Master Liar!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teM009QGSZA&feature=related Are you suffering from over the top CC interest rates?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE95BOjcrGI&feature=related Barack wants to remain in Iraq!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cVrNVRi0g4 Barack Hurts Race Relations in the US!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgEHcDj2oPo&eurl=http://slickbarry.com/

kisses...enjoy!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:11 AM
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1. Do you think this matter in the GE??
ooooh, Baby....I think so.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:22 AM
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6. absolutely, the guy laundered money for Saddam and Khadafi... and they just tied Obama to him...
Friggin ouch
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:23 AM
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7. It's going to be a big Ouch for him....
pretty serious stuff.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:27 AM
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8. Well, now they more reason to question Barack about his LIES!
NOt good...
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #6
25. PUUUULLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEE.
Get a grip on yourself, your spinning out of control like the tasmanian devil.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:23 PM
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44. Highly doubtful Obama could know that, unlike Bill who PROTECTED the thugs on Iraqgate
IranContra, BCCI, and CIA Drugrunning.


Amazing that you all get warm over this penny ante stuff while fully supporting the POWERFUL ELITE being protected throughout the 90s by Clintons.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:11 AM
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2. Nice beaver
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 11:12 AM by YOY


Holy shit! Did you just reply to yourself in the first post?

I am really thinking TheShadonKnows69 is right about you.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:17 AM
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4. Well no one else replied...
and it had been almost 5 whole minutes!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:38 AM
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14. yes...holyshit!
lol!
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:16 AM
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3. Once again is there evidence that money changed hands? NO. YOu are citing a
witness who say's Obama happened to be in the room. Like the Clintons "happened" to take dirty money from Hsu, or "happened" to have deals with Kazakhstan, or "happened" to take money for speaking in favor for Columbia.

OOOHHH! I forgot:

The Clintons DID TAKE MONEY FOR ALL THAT!!

Ass!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:20 AM
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5. dumb dumb dumb..
once AGAIN! You miss,WHY i post about Rezko and Auchi and the rest of the International crime loop...It is not the Crime...or IF there was one...IT is perception..THIS case is on trial right now in Fe court. Everyday new info comes out...HOW IS THAT GOOD FOR ANYONE RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENT FOR THE USA?

AND it shows ANOTHER LIE form YOUR GUY!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:31 AM
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10. it's all about perception
uh-huh
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:31 AM
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11. Blah de blah de blah blah blah. We got it, on to the next, please.
ROFLMAO....Fuck, man. I'll bump your shitty little original post just because it is such an intellectual, artistic and political FAILURE I think other people need to see it. I guess google can be used by almost anyone these days....


Oh, yeah. the International Crime loop you mention above???

Do you get decoder rings or special sunglasses to tell who the good guys are???


Here: lemme send you a special message:

:hurts:

Go ahead and put it on your special glasses and see the names of the International Crap Loop!!!!!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:35 AM
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13. com'on
did you even watch ONE clip? How about the first one..tis my fav! wink.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:30 AM
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9. If Obama's last name was Blagojevich you'd have something to worry about.
This is all you need:

<snip> Obama is not accused of any wrongdoing. But his relationship with Rezko -- who is accused of demanding kickbacks from people seeking Illinois government business -- is under a microscope as he seeks the presidency. http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/894559,CST-NWS-rezko15.article
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:33 AM
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12. I've seen that a million times..as I did Blagojevich...Said the same thing..NOW look!
my, how things change once people get in a court room and they know they are looking at many years behind bars...
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:54 AM
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24. Innuendo is all you've got.
But then what the hell, you're waiting for the mushroom cloud. :nuke:
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:05 PM
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36. you are thinking...
...
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:41 AM
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15. K&R!
!!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:43 AM
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16. gitteeee up!
lol!!!
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:55 AM
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26. weak
nice reach
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:43 AM
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17. gitteeee up!
lol!!!
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:55 AM
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weaker
you look funny
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:43 AM
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18. gitteeee up!
lol!!!
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:56 AM
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28. weakest
get a job.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:03 PM
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34. ooooh..
kisses...lol!
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:05 PM
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35. Kisses back at ya. come on in, the water's fine.
Don't wait for the ship to sink.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:14 PM
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43. delusional i see;; Nitrox?
??? :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:47 AM
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19. Ever see the outstanding BCCI matters Bill deep-sixed for GHWBush, Jackson Stephens, Bin Ladens
Dubai and Saudi royals, AQ Khan, Adnan Kashoggi, Marc Rich, James Bath and scores of other operatives?

Are YOU FAMILIAR with the Phrase SENSE OF PROPRTION?



Start with the Outstanding Matters and questions left on the table in Dec 1992 report:


Matters For Further Investigation

There have been a number of matters which the Subcommittee has received some information on, but has not been able to investigate adequately, due such factors as lack of resources, lack of time, documents being withheld by foreign governments, and limited evidentiary sources or witnesses. Some of the main areas which deserve further investigation include:


1. The extent of BCCI's involvement in Pakistan's nuclear program. As set forth in the chapter on BCCI in foreign countries, there is good reason to conclude that BCCI did finance Pakistan's nuclear program through the BCCI Foundation in Pakistan, as well as through BCCI-Canada in the Parvez case. However, details on BCCI's involvement remain unavailable. Further investigation is needed to understand the extent to which BCCI and Pakistan were able to evade U.S. and international nuclear non-proliferation regimes to acquire nuclear technologies.


2. BCCI's manipulation of commodities and securities markets in Europe and Canada. The Subcommittee has received information that remains not fully substantiated that BCCI defrauded investors, as well as some major U.S. and European financial firms, through manipulating commodities and securities markets, especially in Canada, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg. This alleged fraud requires further investigation in those countries.


3. BCCI's activities in India, including its relationship with the business empire of the Hinduja family. The Subcommittee has not had access to BCCI records regarding India. The substantial lending by BCCI to the Indian industrialist family, the Hindujas, reported in press accounts, deserves further scrutiny, as do the press reports concerning alleged kick-backs and bribes to Indian officials.


4. BCCI's relationships with convicted Iraqi arms dealer Sarkis Soghanalian, Syrian drug trafficker, terrorist, and arms trafficker Monzer Al-Kassar, and other major arms dealers. Sarkenalian was a principal seller of arms to Iraq. Monzer Al-Kassar has been implicated in terrorist bombings in connection with terrorist organizations such as the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Other arms dealers, including some who provided machine guns and trained Medellin cartel death squads, also used BCCI. Tracing their assets through the bank would likely lead to important information concerning international terrorist and arms trafficker networks.


5. The use of BCCI by central figures in arms sales to Iran during the 1980's. The late Cyrus Hashemi, a key figure in allegations concerning an alleged deal involving the return of U.S. hostages from Iran in 1980, banked at BCCI London. His records have been withheld from disclosure to the Subcommittee by a British judge. Their release might aid in reaching judgments concerning Hashemi's activities in 1980, with the CIA under President Carter and allegedly with William Casey.


6. BCCI's activities with the Central Bank of Syria and with the Foreign Trade Mission of the Soviet Union in London. BCCI was used by both the Syrian and Soviet governments in the period in which each was involved in supporting activities hostile to the United States. Obtaining the records of those financial transactions would be critical to understanding what the Soviet Union under Brezhnev, Chernenko, and Andropov was doing in the West; and might document the nature and extent of Syria's support for international terrorism.


7. BCCI's involvement with foreign intelligence agencies. A British source has told the Bank of England and British investigators that BCCI was used by numerous foreign intelligence agencies in the United Kingdom. The British intelligence service, the MI-5, has sealed documents from BCCI's records in the UK which could shed light on this allegation.


8. The financial dealings of BCCI directors with Charles Keating and several Keating affiliates and front-companies, including the possibility that BCCI related entities may have laundered funds for Keating to move them outside the United States. The Subcommittee found numerous connections among Keating and BCCI-related persons and entities, such as BCCI director Alfred Hartman; CenTrust chief David Paul and CenTrust itself; Capcom front-man Lawrence Romrell; BCCI shipping affiliate, the Gokal group and the Gokal family; and possibly Ghaith Pharaon. The ties between BCCI and Keating's financial empire require further investigation.


9. BCCI's financing of commodities and other business dealings of international criminal financier Marc Rich. Marc Rich remains the most important figure in the international commodities markets, and remains a fugitive from the United States following his indictment on securities fraud. BCCI lending to Rich in the 1980's amounted to tens of millions of dollars. Moreover, Rich's commodities firms were used by BCCI in connection with BCCI's involving in U.S. guarantee programs through the Department of Agriculture. The nature and extent of Rich's relationship with BCCI requires further investigation.


10. The nature, extent and meaning of the ownership of shares of other U.S. financial institutions by Middle Eastern political figures. Political figures and members of the ruling family of various Middle Eastern countries have very substantial investments in the United States, in some cases, owning substantial shares of major U.S. banks. Given BCCI's routine use of nominees from the Middle East, and the pervasive practice of using nominees within the Middle East, further investigation may be warranted of Middle Eastern ownership of domestic U.S. financial institutions.


11. The nature, extent, and meaning of real estate and financial investments in the United States by major shareholders of BCCI. BCCI's shareholders and front-men have made substantial investments in real estate throughout the United States, owning major office buildings in such key cities as New York and Washington, D.C. Given BCCI's pervasiveness criminality, and the role of these shareholders and front-men in the BCCI affair, a complete review of their holdings in the United States is warranted.


12. BCCI's collusion in Savings & Loan fraud in the U.S. The Subcommittee found ties between BCCI and two failed Savings and Loan institutions, CenTrust, which BCCI came to have a controlling interest in, and Caprock Savings and Loan in Texas, and as noted above, the involvement of BCCI figures with Charles Keating and his business empire. In each case, BCCI's involvement cost the U. S. taxpayers money. A comprehensive review of BCCI's account holders in the U.S. and globally might well reveal additional such cases. In addition, the issue of whether David Paul and CenTrust's political relationships were used by Paul on behalf of BCCI merits further investigation.


13. The sale of BCCI affiliate Banque de Commerce et de Placements (BCP) in Geneva, to the Cukorova Group of Turkey, which owned an entity involved in the BNL Iraqi arms sales, among others. Given BNL's links to BCCI, and Cukorova Groups' involvement through its subsidiary, Entrade, with BNL in the sales to Iraq, the swift sale of BCP to Cukorova just weeks after BCCI's closure -- prior to due diligence being conducted -- raises questions as to whether a prior relationship existed between BCCI and Cukorova, and Cukorova's intentions in making the purchase. Within the past year, Cukorova also applied to purchase a New York bank. Cukorova's actions pertaining to BCP require further investigation in Switzerland by Swiss authorities, and by the Federal Reserve New York.


14. BCCI's role in China. As noted in the chapter on BCCI's activities in foreign countries, BCCI had extensive activity in China, and the Chinese government allegedly lost $500 million when BCCI closed, mostly from government accounts. While there have been allegations that bribes and pay-offs were involved, these allegations require further investigation and detail to determine what actually happened, and who was involved.


15. The relationship between Capcom and BCCI, between Capcom and the intelligence community, and between Capcom's shareholders and U.S. telecommunications industry figures. The Subcommittee was able to interview people and review documents concerning Capcom that no other investigators had to date interviewed or reviewed. Much more needs to be done to understand what Capcom was doing in the United States, the United Kingdom, Egypt, Oman, and the Middle East, including whether the firm was, as has been alleged but not proven, used by the intelligence community to move funds for intelligence operations; and whether any person involved with Capcom was seeking secretly to acquire interests in the U.S. telecommunications industry.


16. The relationship of important BCCI figures and important intelligence figures to the collapse of the Hong Kong Deposit and Guaranty Bank and Tetra Finance (HK) in 1983. The circumstances surrounding the collpase of these two Hong Kong banks; the Hong Kong banks' practices of using nominees, front-companies, and back-to-back financial transactions; the Hong Banks' directors having included several important BCCI figures, including Ghanim Al Mazrui, and a close associate of then CIA director William Casey; all raise the question of whether there was a relationship between these two institutions and BCCI-Hong Kong, and whether the two Hong Kong institutions were used for domestic or foreign intelligence operations.


17. BCCI's activities in Atlanta and its acquisition of the National Bank of Georgia through First American. Although the Justice Department indictments of Clark Clifford and Robert Altman cover portions of how BCCI acquired National Bank of Georgia, other important allegations regarding the possible involvement of political figures in Georgia in BCCI's activities there remain outside the indictment. These allegations, as well as the underlying facts regarding BCCI's activities in Georgia, require further investigation.


18. The relationship between BCCI and the Banca Nazionale del Lavoro. BCCI and the Atlanta Branch of BNL had an extensive relationship in the United States, with the Atlanta Branch of BNL having a substantial number of accounts in BCCI's Miami offices. BNL was, according to federal indictments, a significant financial conduit for weapons to Iraq. BCCI also made loans to Iraq, although of a substantially smaller nature. Given the criminality of both institutions, and their interlocking activities, further investigation of the relationship could produce further understanding of Saddam Hussein's international network for acquiring weapons, and how Iraq evaded governmental restrictions on such weapons acquisitions.


19. The alleged relationship between the late CIA director William Casey and BCCI. As set forth in the chapter on intelligence, numerous trails lead from BCCI to Casey, and from Casey to BCCI, and the investigation has been unable to follow any of them to the end to determine whether there was indeed a relationship, and if there was, its nature and extent. If any such relationship existed, it could have a significant impact on the findings and conclusions concerning the CIA and BCCI's role in U.S. foreign policy and intelligence operations during the Casey era. The investigation's work detailing the ties of BCCI to the intelligence community generally also remains far from complete, and much about these ties remains obscure and in need of further investigation.


20. Money laundering by other major international banks. Numerous BCCI officials told the Subcommittee that BCCI's money laundering was no different from activities they observed at other international banks, and provided the names of a number of prominent U.S. and European banks which they alleged engaged in money laundering. There is no question that BCCI's laundering of drug money, while pervading the institution, constituted a small component of the total money laundering taking place in international banking. Further investigation to determine which international banks are soliciting and handling drug money should be undertaken.


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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:53 AM
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21. Please stick to the topic of the OP ...
and do feel free to go start your own thread to bash our former president.
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:57 AM
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29. Please
continue your circle jerk
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:54 AM
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22. Bush's Bath, right?
A lot of info..:)
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:51 AM
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20. Obama and his wife claim the don't 'recall' meeting the richest man in the world.
Before I believed Obama and thought this whole Rezko mess was in fact just a 'boneheaded mistake' on Obama's part. Now I believe this was no mistake, not hardly, but rather a cold and calculating product of Obama's ravenous political ambitions - - clearly showing off Obama's poor judgement.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:54 AM
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23. HE MET BILL GATES?????
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:58 AM
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31. I guess I left out the 279th part

But bill gates has been usurped
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:55 AM
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27. Now it appears..
it may have been twice.
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:58 AM
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30. Who cares?
don't tell me, the lunatic fringe flying monkey brigade on the right. But why do you care?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:02 PM
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32. Obama has not been charged with any wrongdoing
Oh, wait...he went to a fucking party! WOW!

Meanwhile, all that sniper fire in the Hillmonster's head was nothing but a bunch of bullshit. Bill lied about her lies...I guess since he was getting his dick sucked while she was just feet away from him the White House, we shouldn't see that as a judge of character.

The NAFTA and China MFN Dynamic Duo have helped suck dry thousands of jobs in the US. They have made millions from their alliances to outsourcing scumsuckers.

You don't know who the real enemy is, pops.


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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:03 PM
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33. does it matter in the GE?
really? THINK!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:07 PM
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37. What? Hillmonster and Bill the Misogynist? Yes, it does matter.
Where are the LINKS for these stories? Any monkey can copy and paste shit from some Hillbot site.

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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:09 PM
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40. Some of those come from the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun Times
both of whom endorsed Obama, and have apparently failed to do their own homework before this.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:11 PM
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41. I see insult is your friend..
I prefer, straight up, in your face... F*ck Off's!

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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:09 PM
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39. Only to the flying monkeys
Most americans are ready for Obama, he's already won it. the reason Hillary is holding on so tight is that she KNOWS that McCain is a weak candidate and that she can beat him too. so if she can only destroy Obama in some way, she can win. but for all intents and purposes, it's over.

Sad story for her, but Obama is the better candidate and I think will be the better President. She should get out while the gettings still good.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:13 PM
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42. Obama could NEVER win the GE!
He's ruined his own chances...
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:09 PM
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38. Blah Blah Blah.
Have a free kick, its obvious that you spent a lot of time putting this together, unless you were copy and pasting.
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